DannySnyder
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Berkeley, CA
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Posted on Dec 26 2007 02:09 PM
Just a thought. Maybe Dick always avoids being associated with surf music anymore is partly because of all the sh*t being said about him on the various surf forums
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zak
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Posted on Dec 26 2007 02:10 PM
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BillAqua
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Chicago IL.
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Posted on Dec 26 2007 02:11 PM
zak
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I've never spent a cent on a Dick Dale show, it's tough wanting to see this guy.
It only gets tougher once you've gone and heard him "sing"
Well my question now is has his singing declined? His '60s singing was pretty bad, but those vocals songs mixed into those album were fun. His taste in instrumental music has gone down, so has his singing followed a similar path?
...and Josh, since when does someone achieving a "legend" status, be it in their own mind, or a truely deserved one, make it worthy of throwing money at someone?
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zak
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Posted on Dec 26 2007 02:18 PM
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JoshHeartless
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Bay City, Michigan
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Posted on Dec 27 2007 12:27 PM
BillAqua
zak
BillAqua
I've never spent a cent on a Dick Dale show, it's tough wanting to see this guy.
It only gets tougher once you've gone and heard him "sing"
Well my question now is has his singing declined? His '60s singing was pretty bad, but those vocals songs mixed into those album were fun. His taste in instrumental music has gone down, so has his singing followed a similar path?
...and Josh, since when does someone achieving a "legend" status, be it in their own mind, or a truely deserved one, make it worthy of throwing money at someone?
i didn't go see him to support him or any reason of the sort, i went to go see him because the man himself is a part of history, thus making him a legend. i wanted to meet him and just experience the same person that the people in the first wave did, even though it would have been a completely different show. i never said dick was worth throwing money at, but i gladly payed the $20 to see him, because it was worth it to me. i probably wouldn't have if it were a whole bunch more money.
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kenposurf
Joined: Feb 23, 2007
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Santa Rosa, CA
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Posted on Dec 28 2007 12:09 AM
Right on Danny...naysayers believe what ya like..the man layed the foundation for what we play and let's see who would like to "cut heads" with him on stage...
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dooley
Joined: Jan 07, 2007
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Posted on Dec 29 2007 11:31 AM
I went to see him cuz I like surf loud and proud. He plays more than surf... Country, Blues, Spanish guitar styles and drums & trumpet too. He plays what he likes to play.
I had a chance to talk to him in Cleveland a couple of years ago before he hit the road and he talked about the guitar only being a tool to get sounds from. Keep it simple and the player will make it sound complex. There are no rules and tradition is over-rated. Look for the sound you want and play it...anything goes with guitar.
Some players want to sound just like the album track so there is less growth in ones playing creativity, only duplication. Don't be afraid to create.
He probably gets sick of playing the same tunes over and over and knows there are other styles to play.
The gear evolution stories get better all the time. Sure he was a major player but many people helped him to get "the sound" he was after.
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bots
Joined: Jul 05, 2006
Posts: 290
Shwa City
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Posted on Dec 29 2007 12:12 PM
JoshHeartless
BillAqua
zak
BillAqua
I've never spent a cent on a Dick Dale show, it's tough wanting to see this guy.
It only gets tougher once you've gone and heard him "sing"
Well my question now is has his singing declined? His '60s singing was pretty bad, but those vocals songs mixed into those album were fun. His taste in instrumental music has gone down, so has his singing followed a similar path?
...and Josh, since when does someone achieving a "legend" status, be it in their own mind, or a truely deserved one, make it worthy of throwing money at someone?
i didn't go see him to support him or any reason of the sort, i went to go see him because the man himself is a part of history, thus making him a legend. i wanted to meet him and just experience the same person that the people in the first wave did, even though it would have been a completely different show. i never said dick was worth throwing money at, but i gladly payed the $20 to see him, because it was worth it to me. i probably wouldn't have if it were a whole bunch more money.
I can say I'm a big fan of DD, but more DD from the 60's. I'm a younger guy (23) and my first introduction to surf music was DD and SRV in back to the beach when I was 4. I said to myself that I wanted to be like Dick, crazy hair, and all.
I think the guy is a legend, really cocky but i still like him anyway, and if he came up to Ontario i for sure go see him. There are so many worse "egos" in music.
Dick's kind of like the Wayne Gretzky of Surf Guitar. You love em regardless or hate him in spite.
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Jon
Joined: Mar 15, 2006
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Columbus, OH
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Posted on Dec 29 2007 05:10 PM
I'd take Gretzky over Dick Dale any day, but I like hockey way more than I like surf music. I know that's not what you were getting at, though, haha.
Dick's claims do seem outrageous, and I personally didn't believe most of the stuff he was talkng about when I saw him. I give him credit for being a talented musician, though. Still, if you want to talk about new and different styles of playing, I'd look to other current groups for that before going straight to Dick Dale. That's just my opinion, though.
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WaimeaBay
Joined: Jul 05, 2006
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Posted on Dec 29 2007 06:29 PM
bots
I can say I'm a big fan of DD, but more DD from the 60's. I'm a younger guy (23) and my first introduction to surf music was DD and SRV in back to the beach when I was 4. I said to myself that I wanted to be like Dick, crazy hair, and all.
I agree. As a younger fan all this stuff is pretty new to me, and I happen to love Dick's 60's era stuff. I think it can hold its own against any modern surf music. People bashing Dick on a Surf forum seems more outlandish than Dick saying he invented sliced bread. Is he the most technical guitar player out there... hell no, but the sound that comes out of his amp sounds pretty damn good. Does it really matter if he believes his contributions to amp building are more significant than they really are?
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SURFmole
Joined: Nov 22, 2007
Posts: 901
Portland, OR
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Posted on Dec 30 2007 12:16 AM
bots
I can say I'm a big fan of DD, but more DD from the 60's. I'm a younger guy (23) and my first introduction to surf music was DD and SRV in back to the beach when I was 4. I said to myself that I wanted to be like Dick, crazy hair, and all.
...Oh Man! NOT the hair!! I had crazy hair of my own back then...no need to copy Dick.
WaimeaBay
I agree. As a younger fan all this stuff is pretty new to me, and I happen to love Dick's 60's era stuff. I think it can hold its own against any modern surf music. People bashing Dick on a Surf forum seems more outlandish than Dick saying he invented sliced bread.
Well he DOES play a Strat, doesn't he? That in itself ought to be worth a good bashing I always thought that Strats WERE Surf guitars until I joined this forum and found out otherwise Now I'm finding out the consensus is that Dick Dale is a poser?
Seriously though, I agree with you.
WaimeaBay
Is he the most technical guitar player out there... hell no, but the sound that comes out of his amp sounds pretty damn good. Does it really matter if he believes his contributions to amp building are more significant than they really are?
I agree!
I watched that linked video and didn't really see anything that I thought was THAT boastful or exaggerated...but maybe I missed it. Did he DESIGN the amps? No friggin' way...but he certainly was a pioneer when it comes to the development (testing) of them as is widely documented. It doesn't really make any difference to me whether he's a royal a-hole, not the worlds greatest player, if he can't surf, or anything else as long as I enjoy listening to some of his music (which I do). I'll probably go see him next time he comes to town regardless of his personality flaws
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Mr_Reverb63
Joined: Jul 10, 2007
Posts: 916
San Pablo, CA
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Posted on Dec 30 2007 02:54 AM
Well he DOES play a Strat, doesn't he? That in itself ought to be worth a good bashing I always thought that Strats WERE Surf guitars until I joined this forum and found out otherwise Now I'm finding out the consensus is that Dick Dale is a poser?
Seriously though, I agree with you.
what's wrong with strats. i play a strat does that make ME a poser?
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bots
Joined: Jul 05, 2006
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Shwa City
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Posted on Dec 30 2007 02:57 AM
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"your asking me, Dick Dale if I know venus? No. But I do know this!"
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JakeDobner
Joined: Feb 26, 2006
Posts: 12159
Seattle
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Posted on Dec 30 2007 03:02 AM
I think a lot of people here think there is either a big conspiracy against strats or that they aren't true surf guitars. However, in the "best surf guitar" thread the majority of the people voted for strat. Me? I can't get a good sound out of them.
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surfinreverb
Joined: Mar 13, 2006
Posts: 108
Flemington, NJ
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Posted on Dec 30 2007 04:01 AM
The Chantays used 2 Strats to record Pipeline....can't really think of a more "surfy" sounding song than that........................
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SURFmole
Joined: Nov 22, 2007
Posts: 901
Portland, OR
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Posted on Dec 30 2007 07:07 AM
MrReverb63_
Well he DOES play a Strat, doesn't he? That in itself ought to be worth a good bashing I always thought that Strats WERE Surf guitars until I joined this forum and found out otherwise Now I'm finding out the consensus is that Dick Dale is a poser?
Seriously though, I agree with you.
what's wrong with strats. i play a strat does that make ME a poser?
Hey, err calm down there Mr_Reverb! You took my reply out of context. I play one too and I wasn't trying to say that Dick Dale was a poser BECAUSE of the Strat! I was just stating (purely tongue-in-cheek) that the bashing he's getting is similar to the bashing that Strats occasionally get on this forum...which seems totally crazy to me. (That's why I said in the last sentence "seriously though" to imply that my previous comments weren't my own opinions and were in humour). It'd be like bashing the Telecaster on the Country guitar forum or something!
I'm willing to go along with the big anti-Strat conspiracy! (just joking)
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zak
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Posted on Dec 30 2007 09:54 AM
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HBkahuna
Joined: Mar 02, 2006
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Star, Idaho. Formerly lived in Surf City USA.
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Posted on Dec 30 2007 11:07 AM
Love or hate DD & his music, he has stood the test if time & enjoyed great commercial success. He sells out almost every place he plays. It's no secret he is presently suffering from a potential life threatening illness. At the very least, he deserves everyones thoughts & prayers for his full recovery.
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JakeDobner
Joined: Feb 26, 2006
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Seattle
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Posted on Dec 30 2007 11:54 AM
surfinreverb
The Chantays used 2 Strats to record Pipeline....can't really think of a more "surfy" sounding song than that........................
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WR
Joined: Feb 27, 2006
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netherlands
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Posted on Dec 30 2007 05:57 PM
from what I understand, Gerst was a technician working for Lansing/JBL. he most likely got "orders from above". Dick wasnt even offcially associated with Fedner, "merely" a friend of Leo and equipment tester and brainstormer. I also seem to remebr it was Fender who asked JBL to increase the power handling of the D130's, and the main reason was Dick Dale kept blewing them up.
I dont know what happend exactly in JBL's nor Fender's HQ in the early sixties, but it's quite possible that they never even heard of one another and still both contributed in a CSQN manner to the development of the 130F. and yeah, DD blows up his stories too, no big deal, everybody knows it.
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