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In the Soul of Tone there are two pages on what Dick Dale did for Fender.

"I was the guy that made Leo reach out and do other things, I made him create reverb, echo, and these extra things"

"See, Frank(Sinatra) wanted to manage me"

"Anything that came out of his(Leo Fender) brain, like the six-string bass, I was the one who pioneered it. Even the Fender Rhodes Piano -- I pioneered that one at the Hollywood bowl"

"Freddie, Leo, and I used to be the Three Musketeers... What gets me pissed off is that all these people, including the guys who had been working (at Fender) all those years, have all this so-called knowledge about what was going on with the amplifiers. They don't know shit, because theyw eren't sitting in the room when it was just me, Leo, and Freddie. And there was just one other person who would stick his head in that teeny little room, and that was Forrest White"

"and it was my idea to put the aluminum dust cap on the front. To me, it felt it was giving that metallic click sound when you pick with a pick."

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Great Book, I got it for Christmas.....As for DD's comments, knowing Tom Wheeler, It was exactly what Dick said. Hummmm, makes me think that my not making his last Atlanta show may have been a good thing.....ed

Traditional........speak softly and play through a big blonde amp. Did I mention that I still like big blonde amps?

Jake,
whats your point?

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Jeff(bigtikidude)

bigtikidude
Jake,
whats your point?

Jeff(bigtikidude)
Rolling Eyes Wink Shocked

Stir the Pot

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bigtikidude
Jake,
whats your point?

Jeff(bigtikidude)
Rolling Eyes Wink Shocked

Stir the Pot

ha ha you think??
Rolling Eyes

Jeff(bigtikidude)

Okay, we'll just let Dick get away with these comments that are more than likely untrue. Forget history or due credit.

Just because somebody doesn't like it doesn't mean it is stirring the pot.

Poor title choice on my behalf. I can't change it due to my invalid session error. I apologize for any misdirection or religious ignorance.

Hey Jake,
I thank you for posting the transcript of what DD said. It is most certainly surf music related. Whatever other people make of your posting after you have written is not your problem. The subject line is misleading, especially at this time of year. I expect "Holy Jesus" is what you thought of when you read the article.

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I changed the title. When I got home from Christmas celebrations I got an e-mail from Danny with the good idea that I change the title.

Hope you had a great Holidays Ferenc. What became of the Bandmaster you used to play? I see you with that Vibroverb in the most recent Pollo pictures.

I for one can believe Dick sitting in with Leo and Freddie trying things out.

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I dont doubt that DD sat with Leo and others ant told him what he wanted, needed. But I think some of the storys over the years may have grown into tall tales a tad.

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JakeDobner
"and it was my idea to put the aluminum dust cap on the front. To me, it felt it was giving that metallic click sound when you pick with a pick."

I read somewhere once that the guy who actually designed the f series speakers put that metal dust cap on because the speaker was a little dark sounding, and he wanted to brighten it up... I have no idea if any of that is true, I'm just trying to add to the conversation.
Also, I don't know if anyone has read this before, but I found a nice article on the jbl "f" series speakers.

Well Hal, let me take you back to the late 50s, early 60s. JBL was a small
company with their main offices above a candy store, and the manufacturing
scattered in a number of buildings up and down the street, near Glendale, on
Fletcher Drive.

They made the following speakers;
the D130 a full range 15",
the D131 a full range 12",
the 130A a 15" woofer,
the 130B (same as the 130A, but 16 ohms),
and the 150 - a 15" woofer with a heavier cone.

The D stood for a metal dome and the A and B were for woofers of different
impedances. I don't remember if we made a 131A. We also made a D123 (full range
pancake 12" speaker) and the D208 and D216 (both 8" speakers but with 8 and 16
ohm voice coils).

Fender was buying D130s for use in their Dual Showman systems, but they were
experiencing problems in surrounds drying out from outdoor use, and burnouts

from improper mounting techniques. I wrote a memo to the president of JBL,
outlining a plan to let me design a series of speakers made specifically for
musical use and he agreed. My plan called for modifications to the D130 and
D131, plus an all new bass 15" speaker, and a new 10" speaker.

Since Fender was our largest purchaser, I did not want the headache of trying to
re-introduce a whole new series so I kept the D130 name for the 15" and simply
added an F (yes, the "F" is for Fender - don't know why to this day I did that,
but I did). Since I was making up new model numbers, I decided where possible to
keep it simple, so the 12" (originally the D131) became the D120F, and the new
10" became the D110F.

That left the new bass speaker. I didn't want to leave it in the 13x range
because it was different and the 150 was already being used by our theater
woofer. The 140 was not being used, so I named the new bass speaker the D140F.

And a few links!
http://www.jt30.com/jt30page/micKspeakers/D130F-History.html
http://www.jt30.com/jt30page/micKspeakers/Early-JBL-history.html

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yeah, as much as i love dick dale's music and respect him for the contributions he actually did truthfully make to the music biz, he's still a BSer and has a bit too big of an ego IMO.

of course, from what i understand Eddie B. tells of similar situations, but he says them in a less egotistical way. maybe Dick's stories are true like Eddie's, but with his role in them majorly overplayed.

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I went to go see DD play some months back and I remember overhearing him talking to some other fans after the show. I guess he was giving some history lesson and he finished the whole thing off saying> Someday, I'm gonna write a book about everything I've done and it's gonna be called "This is how it really is, stupid."

It's that exact condescending I'm-the-expert bravado that makes me hate to even credit what he says.

I can believe that musicians in some way contributed to the development of the gear we know and love. To what degree we will never know for sure I guess.

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For someone who designed so much of Fender's gear back in the 60s you'd think someone would pointed him in the right direction regarding the correct way to string a guitar.

I've never spent a cent on a Dick Dale show, it's tough wanting to see this guy.

"as he stepped into the stealthy night air... little did he know the fire escape was not there"

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For someone who designed so much of Fender's gear back in the 60s you'd think someone would pointed him in the right direction regarding the correct way to string a guitar.

I've never spent a cent on a Dick Dale show, it's tough wanting to see this guy.

...in his defense he already learned to play well with the incorrect stringing. he would have have to relearn the instrument if he had begun to string it right.

but still, he Is a legend, even without his rediculous stories, so that's why i went to see him.

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BillAqua
I've never spent a cent on a Dick Dale show, it's tough wanting to see this guy.

It only gets tougher once you've gone and heard him "sing" Laughing

what's wrong with his voice? i like it,

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