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"Are there really that many ahole sound guys out there?"

yes...

Yes there are, and its not just in surf music. I run into these know-it-alls when I perform with Lonzo & Oscar. Only in a few instances have we ever had a sound guy good enough... willing to work with us enough... to get the sound right. There used to be a guy at the Star Bar in Atlanta who actually talked to the bands and really worked hard to get the sound tailored to each band... I dug working with him.

As for my worst experience on stage.. I'd have to say that performing in a tiny little log cabin at the base of a hill in Middle Tennesse... during an all night pouring rain... with power provided by a gas generator that kept dying due to the rain shorting out the spark plug... might rank up there with the best of the worst!!

Ron (ToneBoy)
The Mariners (1964 to Present) www.myspace.com/themarinersfirstwave
Lonzo & Oscar (1999 to Present) www.lonzoandoscar.net
www.myspace.com/lonzoandoscarcomedy
Billy Henson & Summerstorm (2001 to Present)

Surf sound guy for hire...will work for beers!

www.cutbacksurfband.com

I'll repeat what I said in my first posting on this thread: The majority of sound people I work with are great and enjoy what they do! Definetly don't want to come across as a
sound guy-ist

Anyway, there's nothing quite like seeing a sound guy's eyes light up when we tell him we don't sing, we just need a talk back mic.

drummer-Lava Rats

The Tmen have had good luck with sound guys thus far into our career. They do seem to like how we don't need miking for the most part. And we've found that most of them really dig the instro surf sound. Let's hope that continues.

Danny Snyder

"With great reverb comes great responsibility" - Uncle Leo

Playing keys and guitar with Combo Tezeta

Formerly a guitarist in The TomorrowMen and Meshugga Beach Party

Latest surf project - Now That's What I Call SURF

GReat times Bill!!!

As you can guess, bad gigs because of heat, don't even register as bad gigs to us here in fresno, I once saw our drummer to a set in full sun, over black assfault... on one of the hotest days ever, take note marathoners TRAIN IN FRESNO!

One of my worst was a benifit for lukemia, our old drummer didn't show because he got too drunk and fell on his face, (funny I could see no damage when I saw him next...) then the other third of the band, just couldn't get up the energy... I had promised the promotor we would be there, and we could have limped by with one of the other drummers at the show, we knew them all... but, alas it was too much for steve.

I was there already, and did a couple of songs with just a strat and a Deluxe reverb.... it was one of those, "damnit, i am going to make this work" moments.

another was getting tossed out of a tweaker bar for playing music that "SOUNDS ALL THE SAME!"

I could go on and on...

THe NEpTuNeS

The heat was tough, but I suppose that my birthday show last year was one of my worst. I'm sure I've told the story here before...

Let's just say being onstage and doing LOTS of shots in a short time (mixing, none the less) is a BAAAAD combo for a guitarist.

~B~

So tonight I go to jump on Bob Bitchin's back at our gig. I climb aboard and lets just say that I wasn't "arranged" correctly for the ride and some important things got a little smashed! O man, I just closed my eyes and played... Wipe Out of course.

Paul

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Pyronauts
lets just say that I wasn't "arranged" correctly for the ride and some important things got a little smashed!

That hurt just to read Sad

Ryan
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Pyronauts
lets just say that I wasn't "arranged" correctly for the ride and some important things got a little smashed!

What, your guitar? Is your guitar okay??

Rolling Eyes

Pyronauts
So tonight I go to jump on Bob Bitchin's back at our gig. I climb aboard and lets just say that I wasn't "arranged" correctly for the ride and some important things got a little smashed! O man, I just closed my eyes and played... Wipe Out of course.

Paul

LMAO

I didn't realize at first that's what had happened. When you were flat on the stage I thought "man, that ride around on Bob's shoulders really wore Paul out". Embarassed

That's a cool move though...like a big two-guitar playin' monster roaming through the crowd. Rock

Don

wooza
What, your guitar? Is your guitar okay??

Rolling Eyes

Not the guitar... but I'm happy to report that this morning I am feeling fine and my voice has returned to normal.

I don't think we'll be trying that stunt at the Hotel Utah though...

Paul Monkey

JetBlue
I didn't realize at first that's what had happened. When you were flat on the stage I thought "man, that ride around on Bob's shoulders really wore Paul out". Embarassed

That's a cool move though...like a big two-guitar playin' monster roaming through the crowd. Rock

I think I gave Bob a headache from slaming the guitar into the side of his head! That was the third time we tried that and the most painful by far! At least he's never dropped me!

Paul

PS: I think we'll have to call it the "Nutcracker"

I think over time, when you have these experiences, you tend to try to "forget" them...but this thread reminded me of one memorable evening.

A friend got us a gig playing for a private party one summer. We'd have to play from 9 to midnight and the money was paid in advance so none of the sometimes hassles of trying to get paid.

I knew it was an outdoor party, what with it being July. Since it was supposed to be in a field I also mentioned we'd need some power cords out there and some staging. We wouldn't want to be standing on the ground. No fun being a conductor...:-)

We show up that hot summer night, and it's a 30 acre cow pasture, sans cows at this point (they did show up later on), and we had power to the staging they built and it was very sturdy.

Item 1: the private party was a motorcycle club. They had 200+ members. They all arrived on their bikes and parked in the field (which was interesting since the departed cows had left some "meadow muffins", and you didn't want to step one). Ever try to play louder than a bunch of Harleys? Don't. You lose.

Item 2: the stage, while sturdy, wasn't quite big enough. Drummer disappears off the back half way through a song. Well, okay, fell off. Got a standing ovation as he climbed back on the stage to his kit.

Item 3: Even if you're on a stage, when two guitars touch and the amps were on opposite polarity, there's going to be some sparks. We were in the "whoa" mode, crowd though it was cool.

Item 4: We not playing all that quiet, it's a huge field but there is a row of residential houses on a street along the far side of the field. During the night, you'd see some house lights come on, few guys would jump on their Harleys and ride to the lights, you'd see the lights go out. Not one single person complained all night about the "noise" and the cops never showed. Never asked why.

Item 5: when they light up two large bonfires 40 feet in front of you, it generates a whack of heat. It felt wonderful when they finally burned down some. After they burned lower, they put wash tubs full of water and filled them with corn for a corn on the cob roast.

Item 6: At midnight, the guy who was running the party didn't want us to stop playing but he didn't have any money to pay more. So he came up with this idea that we'd do this donation/jukebox thing. If they wanted to hear another song, he go canvas them for donations (of how knows how much) and just hand me the money.

Since most were eating corn on the cob, everything was slathered in butter, salt, pepper and beer. I didn't want to handle it and "coat" my guitar so the guy just shoved the money in my hip pocket. After while, everyone was shoving money in pocket. We just kept playing.

At 2 am, we finally pack it in, we get lots of thanks (apparently this club had problems getting bands to their parties) and we never got a break from midnight til 2am, they just kept paying, we kept playing. We pack up and go home to crash.

Item 7: There's nothing quite like waking up in the morning to a horrible smell and not being able to figure out what it is. Until you spot those white denims I was wearing the night before and you see the yellow rancid butter stain start at the hip pocket and go all the way down to the ankle. I picked the money out of that pocket with tongs and put the pants in the trash. No detergent was going to clean them. I laundered the money...:-)

To the credit of the MC club we played for, there was never any problems. Anything even remotely started to get out of hand, they were on it. Pronto. When we didn't know a request number they "really" wanted to hear, our alternate suggestions were always met with "great". A very different looking but well behaved and polite group.

The image that sticks in my mind is watching them ride past the bonfires while were playing Blues Theme and the fire light reflecting off all that chrome and paint...and the rumble...too cool for words.

Mel

The Deadbeats had a show this past Sunday the 6th in Richmond CA for our friends birthday. Like ALWAYS we get stuck playing with metal/punk/hardcore bands hahahaha anyways we ended up playing 1st and we started off playing really good (I'm the drummer by the way). We had a pretty tough crowd. During the middle of song number 7, Attack of El Robot Atomico a Ghastly Ones song, my bass drum batter head had popped Crying so in order for the show to go on I ended up turning the bass drum around to play the resonant head....boy did the bass sound like crap. Also many people from the crowd had split after the incident but we still ended up playing thru most of our setlist. Thats the worst experience that i've had so far but I guess it really can't be compared to all these other stories I've read on this thread.

65acrolite
The Deadbeats had a show this past Sunday...

Yeah, that was pretty lame. That bass drum was just the icing on the cake of a general downer of a show. Nobody got into it through the whole set, and we got basically zero response from the crowd. Disappointing. Not even the skinheads seemed to be going for us, but then again I guess I'm okay with that. Laughing

104˚F fever, dizziness nearing vertigo, broke strings, decided a stiff cognac or two would help, forgot or flubbed almost every song, remember almost nothing. People said I looked like I was having fun, so not too bad, I guess!

SSIV

It's nice to know that experiences can be similar around the world!
- dropped a beer bottle on my guitar lead and lost all sound in the middle of a 'roaring' lead looking a little lame.
- my crackling chorus pedal frustrated me so much I threw it off stage... In the 90's I played in a grunge band which was doing OK and then for some reason suddenly we had a stream of 'spinal tap' type of gigs:
(1) We were invited to play at our city's annual show - which I was stoked about - carried my amp through the crowd like a king but ended up playing in a dark sealed room so no one could see or hear us outside, with an untrained sound guy (no offense to sound guys) to about ten people near the ferris wheel _ and laughing clowns which drew far more attention than us playing. I carefully slipped away in the night to hide in my kennel.
(2)After a few more bad gigs, we did a support in an
Emo_ club that went so badly with everything going wrong that after in the dressing room we decided to call it quits.
A week later some of the audience from that same gig told our singer how great we were and 'when are we playing again?'...which happens to be the last actual large gig I've played in ... Rolling Eyes

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Several times throughtout the thread "and the sound guy blah blah blah...didn't get it". Why doesn't everyone bring their CD and play it for the guy at sound check, give him an idea of what your going for, and have someone you know sit with the guy and get a mix togather.

I used to do live sound at a rock club in Boston years ago. Here are my thoughts on your thoughts:

It's not that the sound guy doesn't get it. He doesn't give a shit. 97% of the bands are going to get up there, crank their amps up to whatever they want which usually overpowers the first fifteen feet of the room, whine when the monitors don't go any louder, and then the girlfriend of the guitarist is going to come back to the sound booth and tell me the guitar isn't loud enough.

As for someone bringing a CD and trying to sit down with the sound guy to "get a mix together", that's quite an assumption; that the sound guy cares what your 8 friends who came to the gig think of how close it sounds to your CD.

Then again, I had to sit through three to four shit pop/punk/rock/marshall/power-ballad/weezer-wanna-be/guitar-center-is-having-a-sale bands a night, so maybe that's the source of my animosity.

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