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SF Chronicle Surf Guitar Article

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outsides Joined: Jul 08, 2006 Posts: 460 NorCal	Posted on Oct 02 2007 10:22 AM http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/10/02/DDLMSDAP4.DTL&hw=surf+guitar&sn=001&sc=1000 Top
bigtikidude Joined: Feb 27, 2006 Posts: 25581 Anaheim(So.Cal.)U.S.A.	Posted on Oct 02 2007 11:27 AM thanks Outsides, cool article, you should post it on the Mermen list too, I think they would appreciate the Mermen references. also I thought it was hilarious when they called DD the "king of the surf guitar" too funny. Jeff(bigtikidude) — Jeff(bigtikidude) Top
bigtikidude Joined: Feb 27, 2006 Posts: 25581 Anaheim(So.Cal.)U.S.A.	Posted on Oct 02 2007 11:31 AM Never mind, somebody already posted it there. Jeff(bigtikidude) — Jeff(bigtikidude) Top
spskins Joined: Feb 27, 2006 Posts: 3780 tn	Posted on Oct 02 2007 03:06 PM A city with PDM, Meshuggah, the Lava Rats, The Tomorrowmen, and the Barbary Coasters and they write about Crowsong? I'm sure they're great musicians and all, but all I see are Grateful Dead references... Oh well, San Fran strikes again. Well, I decided to give it a chance and listen to the samples. Um. Surf? And it's not the old I'm close minded, I need to broaden my definition of surf thing. I don't hear any reverb and I hear lots of singing. Sounds like Tom Petty or Bruce Springsteen. That's fine, but is surf really something to "cash in on" or identify with? Especially if you're not even playing it? This is weird to me. — http://www.satanspilgrims.com http://www.facebook.com/pages/Satans-Pilgrims/8210228553 https://satanspilgrims.bandcamp.com/ http://www.surfyindustries.com Last edited: Oct 02, 2007 15:25:33 Top
CaptainSpringfield Joined: Feb 26, 2006 Posts: 4387 Under the Sun	Posted on Oct 02 2007 03:24 PM spskins This is weird to me. It all made sense when they said that the bassist works for the SF Chronicle ... which happens to be the same publication the article appeared in. -Warren — That was excessively violent and completely unnecessary. I loved it. Top
spskins Joined: Feb 27, 2006 Posts: 3780 tn	Posted on Oct 02 2007 03:26 PM ah. Oh and I should say it really isn't weird to me. Most papers usually miss the mark with articles like this. — http://www.satanspilgrims.com http://www.facebook.com/pages/Satans-Pilgrims/8210228553 https://satanspilgrims.bandcamp.com/ http://www.surfyindustries.com Top
outsides Joined: Jul 08, 2006 Posts: 460 NorCal	Posted on Oct 02 2007 03:55 PM spskins A city with PDM, Meshuggah, the Lava Rats, The Tomorrowmen, and the Barbary Coasters and they write about Crowsong? I'm sure they're great musicians and all, but all I see are Grateful Dead references... Oh well, San Fran strikes again. I was hoping someone would notice this. That would be Joel Selvin "Chronicle Senior Pop Music Critic". It's typical of him. But, I found it pretty unbelievable too. Top
wooza Joined: Apr 24, 2006 Posts: 1618 Ithaca, NY	Posted on Oct 02 2007 07:23 PM Thank you San Francisco Comical. Top
PolloGuitar Joined: Feb 26, 2006 Posts: 5097 San Francisco	Posted on Oct 02 2007 08:32 PM CaptainSpringfield It all made sense when they said that the bassist works for the SF Chronicle ... which happens to be the same publication the article appeared in. Bumpity bump bump. --fd — Buy Speed of Dark @ Bandcamp Buy Spin the Bottle @ Bandcamp My Blog- Euro Tour Blog Pool Boys on Spotify INSTAGRAM Frankie & The Pool Boys on FB Pollo Del Mar on FB DJ Frankie Pool Boy on North Sea Surf Radio Top
LRDrummer Joined: Apr 06, 2006 Posts: 94	Posted on Oct 02 2007 10:21 PM Uggghh. I even like most of the things Selvin writes but this is downright lazy. — drummer-Lava Rats Top
SurfBandBill Joined: Mar 15, 2006 Posts: 1487 San Francisco	Posted on Oct 02 2007 11:46 PM Can all you out-of-state folks hear my smirk from here in SF? ~B~ Top
DannySnyder Joined: Mar 02, 2006 Posts: 11054 Berkeley, CA	Posted on Oct 03 2007 01:32 AM I actually liked the song until about 3/4's in. Too much soloing for my tastes. Hey, as far as the bassist knowing Joel Selvin - guess what? That's how things work in this world. If I knew Joel Selvin don't you think I'd be bugging his ass to write an article? It's great that surf music is getting any ink at all. I'd like to meet this guy and bring him into the fold. Let him know there's a community here. — Danny Snyder "With great reverb comes great responsibility" - Uncle Leo Playing keys and guitar with Combo Tezeta Formerly a guitarist in The TomorrowMen and Meshugga Beach Party Latest surf project - Now That's What I Call SURF Top
spskins Joined: Feb 27, 2006 Posts: 3780 tn	Posted on Oct 03 2007 08:28 AM I listened to the three songs at the top and just noticed the link at the bottom. The one at the bottom of the page is a lot closer-there is reverb and it's instrumental. Are the three at the top the same band? Now I'm just confused. — http://www.satanspilgrims.com http://www.facebook.com/pages/Satans-Pilgrims/8210228553 https://satanspilgrims.bandcamp.com/ http://www.surfyindustries.com Top
outsides Joined: Jul 08, 2006 Posts: 460 NorCal	Posted on Oct 03 2007 12:02 PM DannySnyder I actually liked the song until about 3/4's in. Too much soloing for my tastes. Hey, as far as the bassist knowing Joel Selvin - guess what? That's how things work in this world. If I knew Joel Selvin don't you think I'd be bugging his ass to write an article? It's great that surf music is getting any ink at all. I'd like to meet this guy and bring him into the fold. Let him know there's a community here. Seems like this could be an opportunity to email Mr Joel Selvin and enlighten him. You'd be doing the community a favor. Top
PolloGuitar Joined: Feb 26, 2006 Posts: 5097 San Francisco	Posted on Oct 03 2007 12:32 PM Ya know... Selvin was a major factor in the resurgence of Dick Dale. Before Pulp Fiction, Selvin dragged DD to San Francisco for shows (his first ever in S.F.) and hooked him up with Hightone. --fd — Buy Speed of Dark @ Bandcamp Buy Spin the Bottle @ Bandcamp My Blog- Euro Tour Blog Pool Boys on Spotify INSTAGRAM Frankie & The Pool Boys on FB Pollo Del Mar on FB DJ Frankie Pool Boy on North Sea Surf Radio Top
DannySnyder Joined: Mar 02, 2006 Posts: 11054 Berkeley, CA	Posted on Oct 03 2007 12:59 PM outsides DannySnyder I actually liked the song until about 3/4's in. Too much soloing for my tastes. Hey, as far as the bassist knowing Joel Selvin - guess what? That's how things work in this world. If I knew Joel Selvin don't you think I'd be bugging his ass to write an article? It's great that surf music is getting any ink at all. I'd like to meet this guy and bring him into the fold. Let him know there's a community here. Seems like this could be an opportunity to email Mr Joel Selvin and enlighten him. You'd be doing the community a favor. Done. I thanked him for the exposure and gave him a list of other SF Bay Area surf bands as well as telling him about the Hotel Utah show coming up. I received a quick response from Mr. Selvin: joel selvin Always glad to hear surf music news. Check the production credits on your copy of Dick Dale's "Tribal Thunder." — Danny Snyder "With great reverb comes great responsibility" - Uncle Leo Playing keys and guitar with Combo Tezeta Formerly a guitarist in The TomorrowMen and Meshugga Beach Party Latest surf project - Now That's What I Call SURF Top
LRDrummer Joined: Apr 06, 2006 Posts: 94	Posted on Oct 03 2007 09:07 PM PolloGuitar Ya know... Selvin was a major factor in the resurgence of Dick Dale. Before Pulp Fiction, Selvin dragged DD to San Francisco for shows (his first ever in S.F.) and hooked him up with Hightone. --fd That reminded me to check out my copy of Tribal Thunder (Hightone Records) and whaddya know...Selvin is listed as one of the 3 producers. — drummer-Lava Rats Top
PolloGuitar Joined: Feb 26, 2006 Posts: 5097 San Francisco	Posted on Oct 03 2007 11:55 PM Jim Thomas on the Mermenlist The article doesn't mention Dick becaause the piece was exclusively about Randy Clark. Joel Selvin co/produced Dick Dale's TRIBAL THUNDER and Joel was the force that made that recording happen - It came out in 93 and fueled Dale's revival. Miserlou, in Pulp Fiction, came on TRIBAL THUNDER's heel's in 94. Joel is a friend of Dick Dale and loves Dick's music - that is a given. He knows that in the "surf guitar" realm - Dick IS the man, THE one and only "King of the Surf Guitar." Joel doesn't need to write any more about him right now... Joel saw fit it was about time to write about Randy Clark - a new( new to some anyway) and impressive local San Francisco talent who has labored in a kind of obscurity for too long. ( new to some anyway) Randy is a monster of a guitar player - a master musician fluid in many styles of guitar playing.-( He also played the Sarod on MERMEN's White Trash Raga-) It is good to see him getting the recognition he deserves. Stan the Man at the show and he said that Dick at 70 years old still brings it..still kick's major guitar ass. — Buy Speed of Dark @ Bandcamp Buy Spin the Bottle @ Bandcamp My Blog- Euro Tour Blog Pool Boys on Spotify INSTAGRAM Frankie & The Pool Boys on FB Pollo Del Mar on FB DJ Frankie Pool Boy on North Sea Surf Radio Top
DannySnyder Joined: Mar 02, 2006 Posts: 11054 Berkeley, CA	Posted on Oct 04 2007 08:07 AM From reading Crowsong's website and myspace, it seems they use a few surf elements in a few songs, not really as a stylistic motif like the Mermen. Citing a major influence as Ornette Coleman, may give you a clue. I'd call this mostly a false alarm for surf fans, but interesting music for music fans in general. — Danny Snyder "With great reverb comes great responsibility" - Uncle Leo Playing keys and guitar with Combo Tezeta Formerly a guitarist in The TomorrowMen and Meshugga Beach Party Latest surf project - Now That's What I Call SURF Top

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