dp
Joined: Feb 26, 2006
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mojave desert, california
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Posted on May 25 2006 11:20 AM
I found the following setup instructions over at Fender:
http://www.fender.com/support/setup/othersetup.php
"For the Jaguar/Jazzmaster bridge, adjustment is a simple process. Slide the tremolo lock button back into the locked position. Tune the guitar to pitch (if you use an alternative tuning, drop "D", tuned down a 1/2 step, etc., you will need to tune the guitar to that tuning). Slide the tremolo lock button into the unlocked position. Using the tremolo tension adjustment screw, tighten or loosen the screw to return the tuning back to pitch. The end result should be that whether the tremolo lock button is in either locked or unlocked position, the tuning remains constant."
This procedure seemed to work like a charm, the floating tremolo functions beautifully, and the TremoloLock feature also seems to be properly adjusted.
Any other techniques or advice out there re: floating tremolo adjustment and set-up?
thanks,
-dp
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Anonymous
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Posted on May 25 2006 07:18 PM
cool dave, that is a good read....
my one problem with the trem system, is that the bare is not threaded. It does not seem that you can tighten it up like a floyd rose or fender tremolo. The bar seems to just slide right in and out. Some times my arm hits it and thne it can slide right out. Am I missing something???
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JakeDobner
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Seattle
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Posted on May 25 2006 07:22 PM
You are missing something. If you take the unit apart there is what is called a collet that you can tighten. Do not mess with it until you hear about how to do this from somebody other than myself. I only have one tooth left on my Jaguar, granted it was used and came with two on it, but two works much better than 1. Also the CIJ teeth can take a beating while the AV teeth snap easily. That was my mistake thinking they would be similar.
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Anonymous
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Posted on May 25 2006 07:58 PM
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Brian
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Des Moines, Iowa, USA
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Posted on May 25 2006 10:34 PM
Go to the Fender Forum and read the 9,456 posts on the collet and what you can do to work around it. I used teflon tape for a while. Now I used Dick Messick's solution. I've also broken 2 collets...the AV collets are brittle! Do not try to bend them.
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kick_the_reverb
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Escondido, CA
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Posted on May 26 2006 08:28 AM
Dick Messick's solution all the way!
A rubber washer holds my tremolo arm, and I never take it out. Didn't even try to mess with the collets.
Oh- one more thing about the trem set-up, when I had just bought my guitar, it was set-up by the guy at the guitar store, and at home I only adjusted the spring as mentioned above. Having never owned one before, I didn't remember what was acceptable range for the tremolo. Recently, when I Steve Soest set up my guitar, he notified me that the bridge was set way too low and it did not rock, so there was virtually no range in the tremolo. It's all good now (I plan on posting a short review about Steve's guitar shop with the contact info in a seperate thread) as he raised the bridge to the right height.
Ran
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Anonymous
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Posted on May 26 2006 10:18 AM
Kick,
does the washer go inside the tremolo system? Meaning do I have to take it apart? Or is it something that can go on the outside (exterior of the guitar) Where did you get the washer?
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kick_the_reverb
Joined: Feb 26, 2006
Posts: 1337
Escondido, CA
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Posted on May 26 2006 10:27 AM
The washer goes inside the tremolo system, so you have to go through the difficult procedure of unscrewing a few philips head screws.
It goes over the arm straddling the collets.
The washer comes from a secret guitar parts supplier - Home Depot.
It's just a beveled washer 
Have a look here:
http://home.comcast.net/~rmessick2/Home.htm
Thanks to Dick Messick and his ingenuity we can stop breaking the collets in our guitars.
Don't worry about closing the guitar case with the tremolo arm in place, it won't hurt anytning.
Have fun,
Ran
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Redd_Tyde
Joined: Apr 23, 2006
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Oceanside, CA
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Posted on May 26 2006 06:47 PM
That is a cool tip. I am fortunate that MIJ Jag was in new condition. I just squeezed the collets with the arm in and it is working fine now.
But I would like a fix for the strings jumping around on the barrels, especially when hammering on the low E. It usually ends up in between the E and A poles on the PU's.
_Redd Tyde
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Brian
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Des Moines, Iowa, USA
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Posted on May 26 2006 09:27 PM
MIJ collets you can actually bend...the MIA ones just snap off!
A good setup, including possibly shimming the neck, should help with the strings jumping around. Good luck.
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Anonymous
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Posted on May 26 2006 09:53 PM
I have not expierenced any string jumping on the jag, however the far being knocked out of place i can see becoming a nuisence if i do not fix it down the road.
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Anonymous
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Posted on May 27 2006 12:22 AM
fuck reading through all those fender forums, I just stuck a piece of gum inside the tremolo hole. So far it seesm to be holding up.
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dp
Joined: Feb 26, 2006
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mojave desert, california
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Posted on May 27 2006 03:09 PM
stigger108
fuck reading through all those fender forums, I just stuck a piece of gum inside the tremolo hole. So far it seesm to be holding up.
 ...spoken like a true "surf guitar enthusiast"!!!
I have had no problem with a "wiggly-trem-handle" yet...but, if I ever do, I will keep stigger's "gum-fix" in mind!
-dp
ps: by the way: was that Juicy Fruit, Bazooka, Black Jack or Spearmint you used?
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