ElBirkerio
Joined: Dec 17, 2012
Posts: 519
Vienna
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Posted on Jan 15 2014 10:07 AM
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DBurch
Joined: Nov 17, 2012
Posts: 26
media, pa
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Posted on Jan 25 2014 05:50 AM
This is one of my favorite surf songs ever and yeah its hard to figure out - especially the fills. I think they are doing a V,IV,I thing. The recording is in f#minor for the most part with some major key switch up on the V chord part. I play it in E minor and do an E string drone/ bounce for the intro, 12, 10, 7 10 12 frets and 12, 10, 7,5,3 and then into the verse
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weird_oh84
Joined: May 24, 2023
Posts: 181
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Posted on Jan 11 2025 01:54 PM
I’ve been trying to figure this track out for a couple of years now! I’m glad I’m not the only one who finds it difficult
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Redfeather
Joined: Jul 30, 2016
Posts: 888
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Posted on Jan 11 2025 02:28 PM
There's been a long of bickering in this thread about the key of this song so I think we ought to get it set straight for the record, since this is supposed to be where people all over the world come to learn about surf music.
The song is absolutely in F#.
The main riff is played over an F#min rhythm chord, which modulates along with the main riff up to the iv, Bmin.
During the B section that follows, where one guitar plays those bluesy descending licks over a V-IV-I progression, the rhythm guitar is playing dominant 7 chords in each place: C#7, B7, and F#7. Technically major chords but this is done in the blues regularly and this song is essentially blues (like much of surf music.)
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Redfeather
Joined: Jul 30, 2016
Posts: 888
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Posted on Jan 15 2025 02:36 AM
I've been playing with this song more and I shared it with a friend as well. He had a revelation while learning it and theorized to me that they actually recorded it in E and sped up the tape to bring it to the pitch we hear it in.
When I pulled it into Reaper to slow it down and learn those high pentatonic descending riffs, I found that it's really not quite in F# but is about 25 cents sharp. This is evidence that the as-presented pitch and speed are not how it was recorded.
The intro of the song--that section that appears a few times--is most likely played linearly on the low E-string with the bottom note being the open E. Pitch it up and it becomes the F# but it's so much easier to play in E that it seems nearly indisputable that this is what happened. This is what my friend proposed and I believe it.
Plus, all the lightning speed licks in there are much more manageable at the true tempo of about 124 bpm I found when slowing the song down until it was in E.
We've been bamboozled!
Last edited: Jan 15, 2025 02:43:31
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