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SixStringSurfer Joined: Sep 23, 2014 Posts: 1401 Memphis, TN	Posted on Oct 19 2016 01:26 PM Hi novamax, thanks for the thorough reply. I actually do use DR round wound strings. The reason I mentioned the .018 wound string is because I am now using that as my B string! Yes, a wound B string. I have actually considered using those half and half strings, I may try them out sometime. — MooreLoud.com - A tribute to Dick Dale. New Singles "Finish Line" and "Paradiso" on Bandcamp and website. Last edited: Oct 19, 2016 13:27:57 Top
novamax Joined: Jan 23, 2015 Posts: 105	Posted on Oct 19 2016 04:29 PM Ok... Vol/tone might be worth a try even with round-wounds. I used to refuse turning down pots, as I think a guitar should be pure, the tone shaping should be done with the amp. But this solves the “ice-picky“ ringing for me. I actually counter that a bit by opening the treble on the amp. Last edited: Oct 19, 2016 16:31:13 Top
Signal_Music Joined: Nov 19, 2024 Posts: 8 Heading West asap	Posted on Nov 21 2024 11:05 AM Reviving this old topic... Jaguar & Jazzmaster players, how do you resolve the "ringing" strings between bridge & tremolo assembly WITHOUT: adjusting bridge height, changing string gauges, adding neck shims, installing pieces of cloth or foam rubber ? I thought of running shoe laces over-under the strings, but I'd like something aesthetic… something that does not "dumb-down" the appearance of the instrument. — Influence: Steve Howe, Patrick O'Hearn, Vangelis Top
edwardsand Joined: Jun 29, 2018 Posts: 774	Posted on Nov 21 2024 01:10 PM By never changing strings. That or it's not a problem with my guitars - I notice the sounds, but they aren't dominant and I see them as adding personality to the sound. Perhaps the pickups on my guitars don't pick them up as much some others. Top
TallTenor Joined: Nov 30, 2022 Posts: 72 Coast of the Great Lakes	Posted on Nov 23 2024 12:47 PM It’s worth mentioning those sounds get particularly loud and shrill with a ton of spring reverb. If it’s really bothersome I’ve cut some treble and use flat wound strings. I don’t really notice it without surf amounts of reverb. Use less? It’s kind of the natural outcome. Earplugs in audience? Harder to hear in a band mix. Easier to focus on it playing solo. — Kitten and The Tonics https://kittenandthetonics.com/ Top
Signal_Music Joined: Nov 19, 2024 Posts: 8 Heading West asap	Posted on Nov 23 2024 01:50 PM TallTenor wrote: ...use flat wound strings... Size & brand ? — Influence: Steve Howe, Patrick O'Hearn, Vangelis Last edited: Nov 23, 2024 13:52:08 Top
synchro Joined: Feb 02, 2008 Posts: 4457 Not One-Sawn, but Two-Sawn . . . AZ.	Posted on Nov 23 2024 11:22 PM Signal_Music wrote: TallTenor wrote: ...use flat wound strings... Size & brand ? Thomastik makes a set that is as light as 044, 033, 023 on the bottom, and these sound great and will last years, if you wipe them down after literally every play. You could also try some rubber grommets between the strings to kill any wolf tones coming from the area between the bridge and tailpiece. I have a Guild archtop which produces wolf tones, but three grommets did the trick. — The artist formerly known as: Synchro When Surf Guitar is outlawed only outlaws will play Surf Guitar. Top
ELZEB Joined: Aug 30, 2017 Posts: 52	Posted on Nov 24 2024 04:24 AM Change the volume and tone pots to 500k or even 250k to reduce those overtones. I don't understand why Fender went with 1M pots on the Jaguar. I can see why on the Jazzmaster because the hotter pickups favour mids and bass, but on the Jaguar it's just ice pick country. — https://soundcloud.com/elzeb Top
ELZEB Joined: Aug 30, 2017 Posts: 52	Posted on Nov 24 2024 04:41 AM novamax wrote: Ok... Vol/tone might be worth a try even with round-wounds. I used to refuse turning down pots, as I think a guitar should be pure, the tone shaping should be done with the amp. But this solves the “ice-picky“ ringing for me. I actually counter that a bit by opening the treble on the amp. Exactly. I see people turning down the treble on their amp to get rid of the ice pick, then lose drip definition so they add more reverb making it sound all washy. If you want good drip, note definition and dynamics you want less treble from the guitar and more from the amp so you can keep the reverb at a reasonable level. — https://soundcloud.com/elzeb Top
TallTenor Joined: Nov 30, 2022 Posts: 72 Coast of the Great Lakes	Posted on Nov 25 2024 07:11 AM Signal_Music wrote: TallTenor wrote: ...use flat wound strings... Size & brand ? I’ve used several brands. I think Thomastik and XL chromes do great. I often use chromes to cut cost if I have to restring. Chromes can be darker too, which may help even more. I’ve found it’s the amp+reverb equation that makes the biggest difference in shrill sounds. Some amps are colder than others (black/silver vs brown type). Reverb units with a treble and decay control allow a good bit of dialing in. Winning combo! — Kitten and The Tonics https://kittenandthetonics.com/ Top
DrippyReverbTremolo Joined: Mar 11, 2023 Posts: 149	Posted on Dec 22 2024 04:07 PM Signal_Music wrote: I thought of running shoe laces over-under the strings, but I'd like something aesthetic… something that does not "dumb-down" the appearance of the instrument. Thx for the suggestions. That works quite well. Top
Signal_Music Joined: Nov 19, 2024 Posts: 8 Heading West asap	Posted on Dec 22 2024 05:53 PM DrippyReverbTremolo wrote: Signal_Music wrote: I thought of running shoe laces over-under the strings, but I'd like something aesthetic… something that does not "dumb-down" the appearance of the instrument. Thx for the suggestions. That works quite well. I found these string mute clamps. — Influence: Steve Howe, Patrick O'Hearn, Vangelis Last edited: Dec 22, 2024 17:55:44 Top
DrippyReverbTremolo Joined: Mar 11, 2023 Posts: 149	Posted on Dec 23 2024 01:10 PM Wow that is quite a contraption. I tied a bit of string around the strings and pushed it against the vibrato. Takes care of some of the sympathetic tones but not all of them. Top
Signal_Music Joined: Nov 19, 2024 Posts: 8 Heading West asap	Posted on Dec 24 2024 12:37 PM DrippyReverbTremolo wrote: Wow that is quite a contraption. I tied a bit of string around the strings and pushed it against the vibrato. Takes care of some of the sympathetic tones but not all of them. Try moving the string closer to the bridge, see if that makes a difference. The string mute clamps are here: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0B76WX25C?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_fed_asin_title — Influence: Steve Howe, Patrick O'Hearn, Vangelis Top
FritzCat Joined: Sep 11, 2007 Posts: 676 Sonoma, CA	Posted on Dec 24 2024 01:19 PM I use a velcro-like cable management tie Last edited: Dec 24, 2024 13:19:33 Top

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