archimedes
Joined: Dec 10, 2006
Posts: 104
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Posted on Feb 13 2024 09:26 PM
Oh yeah, I’ve been very impressed with the sound clips I’ve heard of the Oceans 11. So much so that I’ve considered getting the PICO Ocean’s 3 to have a good grab and go or practice board type reverb on a small board or in a gig bag. I already have a Source Audio True Spring which has a fantastic emulation of a reverb unit but I let a friend borrow it for our surf band so it’s pretty much his for the time being. There is something special about the 6g15 whether it’s classic tube or any of the SurfyBear units, but digital stuff is getting better and better.
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synchro
Joined: Feb 02, 2008
Posts: 4406
Not One-Sawn, but Two-Sawn . . . AZ.
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Posted on Feb 13 2024 09:40 PM
archimedes wrote:
Oh yeah, I’ve been very impressed with the sound clips I’ve heard of the Oceans 11. So much so that I’ve considered getting the PICO Ocean’s 3 to have a good grab and go or practice board type reverb on a small board or in a gig bag. I already have a Source Audio True Spring which has a fantastic emulation of a reverb unit but I let a friend borrow it for our surf band so it’s pretty much his for the time being. There is something special about the 6g15 whether it’s classic tube or any of the SurfyBear units, but digital stuff is getting better and better.
That Ocean’s 3 looks like a very good set of features. I have a lot of admiration for the Ocean’s 11 pedal, but realistically, I’d probably never use more than the Spring, Plate and Hall emulations. Plate is often overlooked, but it sounds great, and can make for some interesting Surf sounds.
— The artist formerly known as: Synchro
When Surf Guitar is outlawed only outlaws will play Surf Guitar.
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Samurai
Joined: Mar 14, 2006
Posts: 2229
Kiev, Ukraine
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Posted on Feb 13 2024 11:56 PM
archimedes wrote:
Oh yeah, I’ve been very impressed with the sound clips I’ve heard of the Oceans 11. So much so that I’ve considered getting the PICO Ocean’s 3 to have a good grab and go or practice board type reverb on a small board or in a gig bag. I already have a Source Audio True Spring which has a fantastic emulation of a reverb unit but I let a friend borrow it for our surf band so it’s pretty much his for the time being. There is something special about the 6g15 whether it’s classic tube or any of the SurfyBear units, but digital stuff is getting better and better.
Exactly. I use Ocean 11 or sometimes Zoom MS50 as a practice/backup reverb but when I take one of my SurfyBears - it’s magic.
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DrippyReverbTremolo
Joined: Mar 11, 2023
Posts: 134
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Posted on Nov 01 2024 05:58 PM
I bought a Blossem Point last month. It's very nice. I set it once & use it as an always on pedal, Into a Fender TM Princeton / before a Surfybear metal.
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AgentClaret
Joined: Jan 30, 2024
Posts: 115
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Posted on Nov 01 2024 07:55 PM
What do you guys keep the input and output knobs at?
I'm not sure I'm using this thing right. That, or maybe I just prefer a blackface sound to a brownface sound...
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synchro
Joined: Feb 02, 2008
Posts: 4406
Not One-Sawn, but Two-Sawn . . . AZ.
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Posted on Nov 01 2024 08:24 PM
AgentClaret wrote:
What do you guys keep the input and output knobs at?
I'm not sure I'm using this thing right. That, or maybe I just prefer a blackface sound to a brownface sound...
Input, full CCW unless I need to attenuate a high input signal, which pretty much never happens. Output, I set to unity gain, so that there’s no volume change with the pedal on or off. While the Blossom Point will give up to 6dB of boost, I don’t really use it for a boost, I have that function on the other end of my pedalboard.
— The artist formerly known as: Synchro
When Surf Guitar is outlawed only outlaws will play Surf Guitar.
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AgentClaret
Joined: Jan 30, 2024
Posts: 115
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Posted on Nov 01 2024 09:44 PM
Thanks for the info, I'll give it a shot!
Last edited: Nov 01, 2024 21:45:02
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synchro
Joined: Feb 02, 2008
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Posted on Nov 01 2024 10:37 PM
AgentClaret wrote:
Thanks for the info, I'll give it a shot!
Surfy Industries markets this as not so much being an effect, as it is an amp enhancer. The Presence control is the only thing I adjust, once I have the pedal dialed in, and as you can see in the picture I posted, it is usually set fairly high.
Presence is the brilliant upper harmonics, in your signal, and they cut through the mix giving a sense of immediacy. The thing I like about having a Presence control is that you can roll it back slightly if the sound is too bright, and avoid what I call the icepick effect. While I usually set it high, it’s nice to be able to roll in back.
If you are playing through a Deluxe Reverb, for example, the Bright Cap can make it sound a bit harsh in some low volume situations, and rolling back the Presence control might be a good counter-measure. presence controls work by altering the amount of high frequencies sent into the negative feedback loop of an amp, so with the Presence all the way up, it reduces damping on the higher frequencies. It was common in the earlier Fender amps, but was nearly forgotten by the mid ‘60s.
— The artist formerly known as: Synchro
When Surf Guitar is outlawed only outlaws will play Surf Guitar.
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AgentClaret
Joined: Jan 30, 2024
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Posted on Nov 01 2024 11:01 PM
That is the most comprehensive and user friendly explanation of the Presence control that I've ever come across, thanks a ton for that!
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synchro
Joined: Feb 02, 2008
Posts: 4406
Not One-Sawn, but Two-Sawn . . . AZ.
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Posted on Nov 02 2024 07:14 AM
AgentClaret wrote:
That is the most comprehensive and user friendly explanation of the Presence control that I've ever come across, thanks a ton for that!
Thanks.
— The artist formerly known as: Synchro
When Surf Guitar is outlawed only outlaws will play Surf Guitar.
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DrippyReverbTremolo
Joined: Mar 11, 2023
Posts: 134
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Posted on Nov 02 2024 11:54 AM
It's a good thing I read through this thread, because I had the pedal before the reverb tank instead of after it.
As a suggestion to Surfy Industries, you may consider adding some relevant info on your website on how you prefer / suggest the pedal chain to be made up.
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SixStringSurfer
Joined: Sep 23, 2014
Posts: 1396
Memphis, TN
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Posted on Nov 02 2024 11:17 PM
This post is not about me, it’s about how good the Blossom Point pedal is. I played a gig last night, and couldn’t bring my Showman because it would be too loud.
I played through my Dick Dale Strat, into my Surfy Compact, Brownfacer pedal, Quilter Tone Block 202, 1x15 Quilter/Eminence speaker. The tone sounded incredible, it really gets you about halfway into Showman territory.
I will say, I struggle to play well at lower volumes. A real Showman cranked gives me incredible touch sensitivity, and I just play and sound better. Having said that, having a Blossom Point is a hell of a lot better than playing through the amp without one.
Here are some sample clips of how it sounded. Please remember, this was recorded on an iPhone, not a professional mic.
https://youtu.be/zf_hVBQYai0?feature=shared
https://youtu.be/bA6vMILd4n0?feature=shared
— MooreLoud.com - A tribute to Dick Dale. New Single “Finish Line” on Bandcamp and website.
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synchro
Joined: Feb 02, 2008
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Posted on Nov 02 2024 11:36 PM
SixStringSurfer wrote:
This post is not about me, it’s about how good the Blossom Point pedal is. I played a gig last night, and couldn’t bring my Showman because it would be too loud.
I played through my Dick Dale Strat, into my Surfy Compact, Brownfacer pedal, Quilter Tone Block 202, 1x15 Quilter/Eminence speaker. The tone sounded incredible, it really gets you about halfway into Showman territory.
I will say, I struggle to play well at lower volumes. A real Showman cranked gives me incredible touch sensitivity, and I just play and sound better. Having said that, having a Blossom Point is a hell of a lot better than playing through the amp without one.
Here is a sample of how it sounded. Please remember, this was recorded on an iPhone, not a professional mic.
https://youtu.be/zf_hVBQYai0?feature=shared
That is definitely a good sound. Bright, but not harsh.
— The artist formerly known as: Synchro
When Surf Guitar is outlawed only outlaws will play Surf Guitar.
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SixStringSurfer
Joined: Sep 23, 2014
Posts: 1396
Memphis, TN
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Posted on Nov 03 2024 02:31 PM
Thank you! If I am not playing my brown Showmans, I absolutely have to play through a Blossom Point pedal.
— MooreLoud.com - A tribute to Dick Dale. New Single “Finish Line” on Bandcamp and website.
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Tommy_Surfink
Joined: Dec 11, 2021
Posts: 11
South Coast
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Posted on Nov 03 2024 04:40 PM
That's a great sound SixStringSurfer!
Also a good reminder to myself that I need to rerig my pedalboard so I run my reverb before the Blossom Point
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SixStringSurfer
Joined: Sep 23, 2014
Posts: 1396
Memphis, TN
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Posted on Nov 03 2024 08:35 PM
Thanks man! Always put the Blossom Point pedal the last
in the chain.
— MooreLoud.com - A tribute to Dick Dale. New Single “Finish Line” on Bandcamp and website.
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synchro
Joined: Feb 02, 2008
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Posted on Nov 03 2024 10:52 PM
SixStringSurfer wrote:
Thanks man! Always put the Blossom Point pedal the last
in the chain.
That’s the key. Put it at the end of the chain, just before the amp, and it is truly an always-on pedal. What amazes me, is that it seems to work with every genre I play. It’s obviously great for getting an old school 6G14 Showman sound, but it works very well for Country. (Am I the only guy that prefers to play Country on a Jaguar, even though there’s a Tele at arms length?) I’ve used it for Rock and even Jazz. It seems to work well for everything.
— The artist formerly known as: Synchro
When Surf Guitar is outlawed only outlaws will play Surf Guitar.
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