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Permalink Gigging Oceans 11 / 3 Verb

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Has anyone here gigged a EHX Oceans 11 or 3 Verb pedal in a live setting?

I’d rather not gig my 450 dollar SurfyBear Classic if I can help it.

I have a hard time telling the difference between the EHX and the SurfyBear, but honestly in my opinion the real difference is in the playing response.

Just wondering if there will be some massive Sonic difference playing live and loud

Why not gigging the surfy bear?? Rough shows? Risk of stealing?? Take care of your gear and keep an eye on it and everything will be fine, I guess. Back in the days I used to keep some gear at home also. Till I made that mental switch telling myself I have real players at home, both (bass) guitars and amps which need/deserve to gig.
Just my opinion of course. No substitutes ;)

Cheers,
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Wellens_ wrote:

Why not gigging the surfy bear?? Rough shows? Risk of stealing?? Take care of your gear and keep an eye on it and everything will be fine, I guess. Back in the days I used to keep some gear at home also. Till I made that mental switch telling myself I have real players at home, both (bass) guitars and amps which need/deserve to gig.
Just my opinion of course. No substitutes ;)

mostly paranoia lol ….

I think I’d feel more comfortable gigging a SurfyBear if I had a backup unit safe at home waiting for me in case one gets stolen or damaged…until I can save up for another one I think I’ll gig the 100 dollar Oceans 11

Totally understand. —

Cheers,
Wellens

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I’ve never used an Ocean’s pedal, but I’ve done any number of gigs using a Catalinbread Topanga, and it sounded fine. My reason was that just wanted to avoid lugging a tank, especially for gigs where we only played for 1-2 hours, and I wanted to minimize setup/tear down time. The Surfy Bear sounds wonderful, and I’d recommend it heartily, but in some cases, it just comes down to how much I feel like lugging, not to mention the risk of theft.

Most gigs, I carry everything in one trip. A big part of this comes down to making it easier to keep track of everything during the pack-in, pack-out.

The artist formerly known as: Synchro

When Surf Guitar is outlawed only outlaws will play Surf Guitar.

I've played many gigs, and the only risk of anything happening to my gear was entirely on me. I've left stuff plenty of times over the years, always got it back. Had all my gear piled up where anyone can get to it, nobody ever messed with it. So my advice is to use whatever inspires you to play your best.

Danny Snyder

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Latest surf project - Now That's What I Call SURF

I have gigged with Oceans 11 a lot, it’s totally ok. I even preferred it while playing into some obscure amps that are usually present on club or fest stages.
Then I switched to SurfyBear Compact and that was perfect, suits into your gigbag pocket and gives you that sound)

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Whether you can afford to lose something or have it damaged is a big part of the equation. There's never a 100% guarantee, but you can always do things to increase your odds, like bring a couple of friends along to watch over things or make arrangements with other members to take turns looking out for stuff (and handling gear gently).

I'd say I really enjoy certain pieces of my gear - guitars, amps, effects - and for me to play them all together in a live situation would increase the enjoyment. Though I would hesitate to take my '67 Jaguar out for a gid these days (compared to how I used to fling it around without care back in the 80s).

On the other, 95% of most audiences would not know the difference between a Surfybear, Oceans 3/11, or any other reverb, so that shouldn't be a worry.

edwardsand wrote:

Whether you can afford to lose something or have it damaged is a big part of the equation. There's never a 100% guarantee, but you can always do things to increase your odds, like bring a couple of friends along to watch over things or make arrangements with other members to take turns looking out for stuff (and handling gear gently).

I'd say I really enjoy certain pieces of my gear - guitars, amps, effects - and for me to play them all together in a live situation would increase the enjoyment. Though I would hesitate to take my '67 Jaguar out for a gid these days (compared to how I used to fling it around without care back in the 80s).

On the other, 95% of most audiences would not know the difference between a Surfybear, Oceans 3/11, or any other reverb, so that shouldn't be a worry.

I’ve been both vigilant and fortunate, and have never had any gear stolen at a gig. I am very vigilant, and guard my axe as if it were my wallet, which is to say I keep it on my person unless it is in a locked, secure location. I don’t have the same degree of attachment to my amp, or my pedalboard, but they are still valuable and I wouldn’t want to lose them.

The band I’ve played with the most, has done a three-man system for loading. One person watching the vehicle end, one at the stage end and the third man carries in his own gear. It’s cumbersome, but fairly safe. If there are any other people along with the band, they are deputized as band security officers.

When I play gigs these days, I usually take one Gretsch, the smallest amp possible, a pedalboard and a backpack with spare cables, my mic’, etc. I’m not presenting myself or the band I play with as some kind super authentic Surf show, and I can get a great sound by putting a mic’ in front of a 5 watt amp, and I use a Source Audio True Spring for reverb … which sounds great.

None of this is to denigrate using a 6G15 or Surfy Bear, and a Showman or another big amp, along with an Offset or Strat. You’ll get a great sound from such gear, and I’m all for it, so long as I don’t have to lug it into a gig. Smile Get me a road crew and I assure you that I would probably use a big amp and a Surfy Bear (lacking a real 6G15).

There’s a big difference between what I would bring to a gig and what I would use for recording. Recordings are forever, and I tend to optimize my gear choices. That isn’t to say that I’ll accept poor sounds on a gig. I wouldn’t hesitate to take my Squier Jaguar on a gig, but it happens to be an excellent sounding instrument. My 5 watt Winfield Typhoon isn’t powerful, but it sounds perfect for Surf, through the PA. I wouldn’t use a True Spring if it didn’t sound good. Not as good as a Surfy Bear, but still sounds darn good.

The artist formerly known as: Synchro

When Surf Guitar is outlawed only outlaws will play Surf Guitar.

I have a vintage and RI 6G15. And sometimes I use them. But I still often use either a Topanga or Oceans 11. In fact, the Oceans 11 is my main reverb for pedal steel. Generally prefer the Topanga for surf guitar, but the Oceans 11 is OK by me. Sometimes it's a matter of convenience - there's always a reverb pedal on my pedalboard. Sometimes it's a matter of setup time and/or space on stage.

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When I play shows I always use my '63 Bassman, 70's Echoplex, Fender RI tank, my best Strat, and 1966 Mosrite. Never had a problem. Never lost or damaged anything other than normal wear and tear. Even on tour. I own this stuff to use it. They are tools, not museum pieces. I enjoy playing them at shows, and other people can experience their mojo as well. I've also often let others use my rig at shows. Lorenzo Surfer Joe has used my Bassman as has Evan from Boss Martians and Clarke from Wiped Out. Rather than fear others using my amp, I like the fact that it gets nice and warmed up by the time I use it. Again they are tools and they make the job way more enjoyable. I wouldn't be happy having this stuff at home and having to use cheap gear at the show. To me that makes owning the vintage gear pointless. It's all pretty robust stuff anyway, and old Fender amps are indestructible!

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I just kinda play in my bedroom, haven't giggled in many years but I totally agree with Psychonaut. I have both the Oceans 11 and Surfy Bear Classic 3.0. I think if I was going up north or camping I'd just bring my Spark amp and Oceans 11 but if I was playing an actual show I don't think I'd settle for any less than the Surfy Bear.

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