weird_oh84
Joined: May 24, 2023
Posts: 175
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Posted on Oct 29 2024 02:45 AM
How many of you play gigs , both small and large , with a backup guitar in case of string breakage ? Or do you change the string on stage as fast as you can?
Also, Do you play most gigs with your most prized axe , that plays like and costs almost a million bucks , or do you use your beaten up, but reliable budget guitar?
I may be playing live for the first time ever and these topics keep popping up in my head….
Any input is appreciated
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Wellens_
Joined: Nov 05, 2023
Posts: 58
Brussels Area
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Posted on Oct 29 2024 04:05 AM
I take exact the same with me as a back-up.
You have to watch and take care of your gear
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chiba
Joined: Sep 02, 2022
Posts: 515
Central VA
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Posted on Oct 29 2024 10:13 AM
I've always (when physically possible) taken more than one guitar to a gig. I mostly play Strats, so it's typically easy to have a backup that's more or less the same ... but that never mattered to me. I never hesitated to bring two completely different guitars to a gig. I've also never owned a guitar I wasn't willing to take to a gig.
In critical situations though ... I've gotten by with one guitar. For a couple of shoestring-budget tours that required flying, I took just one guitar and changed the strings before every single show (yeah, even when we had two shows in one day). For gigs at a really small venue, I'd do a similar thing - decide which guitar I'm going to use, and put fresh strings on it that day.
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Samurai
Joined: Mar 14, 2006
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Kiev, Ukraine
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Posted on Oct 29 2024 12:11 PM
Never took a back up guitar with me. I am not strumming so hard and my setup was always good (strings mostly break because of improper bridge or nuts setup). Surely my gigging history is not so huge but I have played a couple of hundred shows without single string broken.
Concerning what guitar - sometimes it was 400 bucks Squire, sometimes Custom Shop Fender, just depending on my mood)
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wipedoutnyc
Joined: Feb 10, 2021
Posts: 230
New York
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Posted on Oct 29 2024 01:30 PM
I never bring a backup guitar. Just not practical for me in most cases, as I take cabs to most shows. I also never really break strings. If I did break a string, I'd probably be at the mercy of "Hey can I borrow one of the other bands guitars?". I've never had to do it, but I've seen other bands do it...and been the one to bring up my stage to another band.
Also, I usually will take my favorite more expensive guitar to a gig...What's the point of owning it if you don't want to play it live in front of people when it matters the most?
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synchro
Joined: Feb 02, 2008
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Not One-Sawn, but Two-Sawn . . . AZ.
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Posted on Oct 29 2024 01:39 PM
I think that I’ve broken two guitar strings since 1977, and I don’t have a light touch with my right hand. Keep your strings clean, keep your bridge and nut in good shape, and you’ll be fine. I always carry a set of replacement strings and a winder/cutting tool, to every gig.
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DaveMudgett
Joined: Mar 17, 2019
Posts: 162
Central PA
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Posted on Oct 30 2024 02:41 AM
I cannot remember the last time I broke a guitar string on stage. I mean, if you're breaking strings on a 12-54 set, you must be hitting them pretty damned hard. But I still almost always take a spare guitar along. For solid-body guitars, I generally use a double gig bag, which is no more work than bringing a single guitar. Sometimes the spare is a different type of guitar for a different sound or feel.
I generally gig with whatever guitars/amps I want to use for the gig. I'm very careful with my gear. Depends on the situation and the physical location. Locally (non-urban), things are pretty secure. Urban setting, we're more paranoid and guard our stuff like a hawk. I have a couple of good quality beaters that I can use if I really don't trust the location or for the occasional dump with a rough crowd.
Only got ripped off once, never onstage. Band van with PA and some of the guys' amps (not mine) got broken into while we were out for breakfast after a gig in '97. We caught 'em - urban out-of-towners tried to sell the stuff to friends of friends locally. Tracked 'em down, they wound up in prison, and insurance covered what we didn't get back. Playing 5-6 nights a week back then, stuff happens.
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chiba
Joined: Sep 02, 2022
Posts: 515
Central VA
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Posted on Oct 30 2024 10:00 AM
I play 10-46 sets and while it's been a while since I broke a string, it certainly happens from time to time. I play fairly hard.
Dave mentioned a double gig bag - that's a great idea, I'm going to look into getting one of those.
My surf rig consists of a pedalboard (with my amp on it), a 1x12 speaker cabinet, 1-2 guitars, and the necessary cables (power for board, power for amp - both run to a power strip, speaker for cabinet, and a cable from the guitar to the first pedal on the board). It's pretty portable, as I prefer to only make one trip from the car. With a two-guitar gig bag, I could feel a little safer and not have to make an extra trip to the car.
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synchro
Joined: Feb 02, 2008
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Not One-Sawn, but Two-Sawn . . . AZ.
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Posted on Oct 30 2024 01:01 PM
chiba wrote:
I play 10-46 sets and while it's been a while since I broke a string, it certainly happens from time to time. I play fairly hard.
Dave mentioned a double gig bag - that's a great idea, I'm going to look into getting one of those.
My surf rig consists of a pedalboard (with my amp on it), a 1x12 speaker cabinet, 1-2 guitars, and the necessary cables (power for board, power for amp - both run to a power strip, speaker for cabinet, and a cable from the guitar to the first pedal on the board). It's pretty portable, as I prefer to only make one trip from the car. With a two-guitar gig bag, I could feel a little safer and not have to make an extra trip to the car.
If I’m playing a gig where I use a solid body, I always use a double gig bag. If I’m using a Gretsch, which is much more common, I’m not about to wrangle two hollow-bodies in hardshell cases. Where I live, during the warm months, leaving a guitar in a car will all but guarantee a destroyed guitar, so two trips is a non-starter. Once the engine is stopped, and the AC is off, I have to get my guitar to some shade, stat.
Our first post-lockdown gig was an outdoor job at the Reid Park Zoo, and it was very hot that day. We were playing under shade, so that was fine, but just the load in all but did me in. In the playing situation that are most common for me, heat is a huge factor, and that’s one reason I tend to streamline my choice of equipment. It also affects my choice of guitars; my carved top Guild has never been used for an outdoor gig. I prefer to leave the spruce top un-baked. :j
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chiba
Joined: Sep 02, 2022
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Central VA
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Posted on Oct 31 2024 01:15 PM
I've gone through semi-hollow phases - never owned a full-hollow electric - and always hesitated to use those for outdoor gigs. I definitely follow your logic on that!
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Bango_Rilla
Joined: Jan 06, 2019
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Bananas, TX
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Posted on Oct 31 2024 03:38 PM
I always have a backup guitar onstage, unless for whatever reason we just can't fit it. It's a hassle to lug a spare but it's come in handy on at least four or five occasions. This ape is tough on strings though.
The guitars rotate around depending on how I'm feeling. Tonight's gig I'm breaking out the DiPinto Deluxe (the most expensive DiPinto I have in the fleet), with my trusty gold banana sparkle as backup.
Taking the expensive guitars out to gigs, for me, is doable when I've been there before and know the setup. I don't overthink it, they're hunks of wood and wire and are meant to be played. Most places either have someone to keep an eye on gear or a dedicated space for it, but those random times when you unload everything outside into a parking lot....
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synchro
Joined: Feb 02, 2008
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Not One-Sawn, but Two-Sawn . . . AZ.
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Posted on Oct 31 2024 04:56 PM
chiba wrote:
I've gone through semi-hollow phases - never owned a full-hollow electric - and always hesitated to use those for outdoor gigs. I definitely follow your logic on that!
There is definitely a different level of risk when you’re talking about a hollow body, and when it has a carved, solid spruce top, there is much to be lost to abrupt temperature changes. My Gibson Johnny Smith cracked at the upper Pickguard screw and that definitely hurt the character of that, otherwise, astounding instrument. I’m pretty sure that it was triggered by temperature fluctuations.
My Guild T-400 is every bit as good of a guitar as that Smith, and the top is the most beautiful piece of Sitka Spruce I’ve ever seen. Somewhat coarse grained (which reputedly improves the sound), but the grain is very even. It is, quite simply, the best instrument I’ve ever owned, and I intend to keep it in as good of shape as possible. I might take it to an indoor gig, but strongly prefer not to expose it to the Arizona sun.
I have an MIJ Gretsch Tennessean, reissue of a ‘62, that is my workhorse. It’s strung with 10s and is perfect for most gigs. I had TV Jones DuoTron pickups, and actually surfs nicely. It’s laminate, and built like a battle tank, so I’ve used it outdoors, when playing under shade.
If I’m literally baking under direct sunlight, on goes the straw cowboy hat, and I take a solid body. These days, probably my Squier CV ‘70s Jaguar. Those gigs are, thankfully, rare.
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synchro
Joined: Feb 02, 2008
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Not One-Sawn, but Two-Sawn . . . AZ.
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Posted on Oct 31 2024 04:58 PM
Bango_Rilla wrote:
… but those random times when you unload everything outside into a parking lot....
Those are the dangerous ones.
— The artist formerly known as: Synchro
When Surf Guitar is outlawed only outlaws will play Surf Guitar.
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TVTheWiredTurtle
Joined: Dec 03, 2009
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Sandy Eggo
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Posted on Oct 31 2024 04:59 PM
graphtec sadddles on my strat, 11g strings & corian nut.. never ever gonna break. ..my late'ass 2 cents
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