R.I.P. The Ventures

JohnnyMosrite

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Posted on Jun 11 2024 06:39 PM

Chiba,

Unfortunately, you saying it's so doesn't actually make it so.

Does in this case.
J Mo'

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synchro

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Not One-Sawn, but Two-Sawn . . . AZ.
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Posted on Jun 11 2024 06:52 PM

bigtikidude wrote:

Do you mean the Mach IV?

synchro wrote:

MelWaldorf wrote:

If they can't be "The Ventures", I wonder if they can be "Not The Ventures"? Can't say it's false advertising as it's says in the name they're not the Ventures. Maybe they could be stopped for using the Ventures name to their benefit, but still it would be awesome.

Also, if anyone is interested, I'm thinking of starting a band called "Not The Beatles"...

One of these days I’m going to start a band called Not the Mach III. The beauty of it is, when people hear us they will concur; “that band is definitely not the Mach III”.

One of the guys called in sick.

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DoNtFearTheReverbBass

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Posted on Jun 12 2024 05:11 PM

Leon says on faceplace that the band is alive and well. I’m sticking with Leon . The baton has been rightfully passed . They have a new LP out on the Hi-Tide label .

Ya know , I can still go out and see/hear the COUNT BASIE ORCHESTRA, the Duke Ellington Ensemble and Maynard Ferguson Orchestra- they are keeping the spirit and portfolio alive. Dick Dales son goes out and plays with his dad’s former members and he is keeping the spirit and the portfolio alive. Where I come from , I’ve often worked and recorded the Cincinnati Symphony Orchestra and though that “band” is still together after 150 years , no original members are remaining but they are still keeping the spirit and the portfolio alive. WE SHOULD ALL BE SO LUCKY.

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synchro

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Posted on Jun 12 2024 05:28 PM

DoNtFearTheReverbBass wrote:

Leon says on faceplace that the band is alive and well. I’m sticking with Leon . The baton has been rightfully passed . They have a new LP out on the Hi-Tide label .

Ya know , I can still go out and see/hear the COUNT BASIE ORCHESTRA, the Duke Ellington Ensemble and Maynard Ferguson Orchestra- they are keeping the spirit and portfolio alive. Dick Dales son goes out and plays with his dad’s former members and he is keeping the spirit and the portfolio alive. Where I come from , I’ve often worked and recorded the Cincinnati Symphony Orchestra and though that “band” is still together after 150 years , no original members are remaining but they are still keeping the spirit and the portfolio alive. WE SHOULD ALL BE SO LUCKY.

That sort of circles back to my original post in this thread; is a band the members, or the concept? At what point does a band quit being its original self? There are all sorts of answers, and I’m not about to say it’s one way or the other. Ultimately, it’s in the eye of the beholder.
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If Paul and Ringo hired a couple of people and toured as the Beatles; how legit would that be? It would obviously attract an audience, but would it be the Beatles? Were the Beatles ever the same after Brian Epstein died? One could argue that one either way.

I wish Leon T. and company, the best.

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pavlovsdog

Joined: Nov 22, 2010
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United States

Posted on Jun 12 2024 05:38 PM

There's quite a few lawyers in this thread. If all the band members are dead, the band is no longer active. Simple as. If a bunch of dudes want to get together and play Ventures tunes then it's a tribute act.

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JohnnyMosrite

Joined: Jun 14, 2006
Posts: 892
New York City area

Posted on Aug 22 2024 09:34 PM

All,
It's been several months.
See anything further with Leon and "new and exciting changes are in the works for the band"?

The short, correct answer as of now is a big fat "NO".
The guitarists in the last incarnation have moved on. It appears that the present owners of the Ventures name are less than interested in recruiting a new band.
Even if they were interested, any new guitarists would have to have some chops in writing new tunes. I don't see Leon doing that function alone.
I think Leon is trying or has tried to get something going with the new name owners, but I am of the opinion that nothing will gel. His post on the Ventures website appears to be wishful thinking.
I feel sorry for the guy.
And with regard to this particular post content, I'd like to be 100% wrong someday.

J Mo'

Last edited: Aug 23, 2024 08:00:21

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JohnnyMosrite

Joined: Jun 14, 2006
Posts: 892
New York City area

Posted on Sep 29 2024 09:28 AM

A general question:
Did any forum member attended the "Ventures Fest" held this past weekend September 28th at
BALLROOM AT THE PHOENIX
1661 Mill Rd.
Upper Chichester, Pa. ???

If so, was it an actual "fest" or was it a funeral? I understand Fiona Taylor was to attend. I wonder how that went over with Ventures fans given her part in the covert sale of the Ventures catalog.
In the past, several of the (former) Ventures had attended. I doubt that occurred this year due to "circumstances".

The Fest used to be announced here on SG101 in the past. That was not the case this year. A slow fade to obscurity?

J Mo'

Last edited: Sep 29, 2024 09:29:29

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JohnnyMosrite

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New York City area

Posted on Sep 29 2024 01:04 PM

All,
I just went to the former **Ventures.com** website. It's essentially gone.
Other Tunes Music - who took over the Ventures catalog - now suggests on the website that interested parties sign up for their newsletter. And that's all there is.

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ArtS

Joined: May 09, 2008
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Isle of Kent, MD
United States

Posted on Sep 30 2024 08:29 AM

Yeah,
I've been monitoring Facebook; nothing new yet. Let's hope good news by year-end.

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Emilien03

Joined: Jul 16, 2008
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Coyoacán, Distrito Federal
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Posted on Oct 15 2024 06:33 PM

I was enjoying VenturesMANIA video on YT when Jeff BTD pointed me to this thread which I totally bypassed ... shame on me.

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Klas

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Posts: 2292
Stockholm, Sweden
Sweden

Posted on Oct 16 2024 06:49 AM

The Ventures R.I.P. 1967

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ElMonstroPorFavor

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Posted on Oct 17 2024 05:23 PM

Klas wrote:

The Ventures R.I.P. 1967

Well that's a bit crass, what about...

ummm....

uh...

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bigtikidude

Joined: Feb 27, 2006
Posts: 25544
Anaheim(So.Cal.)U.S.A.
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Posted on Oct 17 2024 05:37 PM

Please don’t crap on my favorite Carpenters and Jim Croce cover albums.

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JohnnyMosrite Joined: Jun 14, 2006 Posts: 892 New York City area	Posted on Jun 11 2024 06:39 PM Chiba, Unfortunately, you saying it's so doesn't actually make it so. Does in this case. J Mo' Top
synchro Joined: Feb 02, 2008 Posts: 4430 Not One-Sawn, but Two-Sawn . . . AZ.	Posted on Jun 11 2024 06:52 PM bigtikidude wrote: Do you mean the Mach IV? synchro wrote: MelWaldorf wrote: If they can't be "The Ventures", I wonder if they can be "Not The Ventures"? Can't say it's false advertising as it's says in the name they're not the Ventures. Maybe they could be stopped for using the Ventures name to their benefit, but still it would be awesome. Also, if anyone is interested, I'm thinking of starting a band called "Not The Beatles"... One of these days I’m going to start a band called Not the Mach III. The beauty of it is, when people hear us they will concur; “that band is definitely not the Mach III”. One of the guys called in sick. — The artist formerly known as: Synchro When Surf Guitar is outlawed only outlaws will play Surf Guitar. Top
DoNtFearTheReverbBass Joined: May 24, 2008 Posts: 422 Land Locked CINCINNATI OH	Posted on Jun 12 2024 05:11 PM Leon says on faceplace that the band is alive and well. I’m sticking with Leon . The baton has been rightfully passed . They have a new LP out on the Hi-Tide label . Ya know , I can still go out and see/hear the COUNT BASIE ORCHESTRA, the Duke Ellington Ensemble and Maynard Ferguson Orchestra- they are keeping the spirit and portfolio alive. Dick Dales son goes out and plays with his dad’s former members and he is keeping the spirit and the portfolio alive. Where I come from , I’ve often worked and recorded the Cincinnati Symphony Orchestra and though that “band” is still together after 150 years , no original members are remaining but they are still keeping the spirit and the portfolio alive. WE SHOULD ALL BE SO LUCKY. — The mighty KAHUNATONES Don't Fear the Reverb ! Grateful Surf ! SURFIN' Tiki Bandits ! I can be reached through the following or at don@donschott.com. : www.donschott.com www.eyerecords.com www.dontfearreverb.com www.kokopellistages.com Top
synchro Joined: Feb 02, 2008 Posts: 4430 Not One-Sawn, but Two-Sawn . . . AZ.	Posted on Jun 12 2024 05:28 PM DoNtFearTheReverbBass wrote: Leon says on faceplace that the band is alive and well. I’m sticking with Leon . The baton has been rightfully passed . They have a new LP out on the Hi-Tide label . Ya know , I can still go out and see/hear the COUNT BASIE ORCHESTRA, the Duke Ellington Ensemble and Maynard Ferguson Orchestra- they are keeping the spirit and portfolio alive. Dick Dales son goes out and plays with his dad’s former members and he is keeping the spirit and the portfolio alive. Where I come from , I’ve often worked and recorded the Cincinnati Symphony Orchestra and though that “band” is still together after 150 years , no original members are remaining but they are still keeping the spirit and the portfolio alive. WE SHOULD ALL BE SO LUCKY. That sort of circles back to my original post in this thread; is a band the members, or the concept? At what point does a band quit being its original self? There are all sorts of answers, and I’m not about to say it’s one way or the other. Ultimately, it’s in the eye of the beholder. u If Paul and Ringo hired a couple of people and toured as the Beatles; how legit would that be? It would obviously attract an audience, but would it be the Beatles? Were the Beatles ever the same after Brian Epstein died? One could argue that one either way. I wish Leon T. and company, the best. — The artist formerly known as: Synchro When Surf Guitar is outlawed only outlaws will play Surf Guitar. Top
pavlovsdog Joined: Nov 22, 2010 Posts: 288	Posted on Jun 12 2024 05:38 PM There's quite a few lawyers in this thread. If all the band members are dead, the band is no longer active. Simple as. If a bunch of dudes want to get together and play Ventures tunes then it's a tribute act. Top
JohnnyMosrite Joined: Jun 14, 2006 Posts: 892 New York City area	Posted on Aug 22 2024 09:34 PM All, It's been several months. See anything further with Leon and "new and exciting changes are in the works for the band"? The short, correct answer as of now is a big fat "NO". The guitarists in the last incarnation have moved on. It appears that the present owners of the Ventures name are less than interested in recruiting a new band. Even if they were interested, any new guitarists would have to have some chops in writing new tunes. I don't see Leon doing that function alone. I think Leon is trying or has tried to get something going with the new name owners, but I am of the opinion that nothing will gel. His post on the Ventures website appears to be wishful thinking. I feel sorry for the guy. And with regard to this particular post content, I'd like to be 100% wrong someday. J Mo' Last edited: Aug 23, 2024 08:00:21 Top
JohnnyMosrite Joined: Jun 14, 2006 Posts: 892 New York City area	Posted on Sep 29 2024 09:28 AM A general question: Did any forum member attended the "Ventures Fest" held this past weekend September 28th at BALLROOM AT THE PHOENIX 1661 Mill Rd. Upper Chichester, Pa. ??? If so, was it an actual "fest" or was it a funeral? I understand Fiona Taylor was to attend. I wonder how that went over with Ventures fans given her part in the covert sale of the Ventures catalog. In the past, several of the (former) Ventures had attended. I doubt that occurred this year due to "circumstances". The Fest used to be announced here on SG101 in the past. That was not the case this year. A slow fade to obscurity? J Mo' Last edited: Sep 29, 2024 09:29:29 Top
JohnnyMosrite Joined: Jun 14, 2006 Posts: 892 New York City area	Posted on Sep 29 2024 01:04 PM All, I just went to the former Ventures.com website. It's essentially gone. Other Tunes Music - who took over the Ventures catalog - now suggests on the website that interested parties sign up for their newsletter. And that's all there is. J Mo' Top
ArtS Joined: May 09, 2008 Posts: 1336 Isle of Kent, MD	Posted on Sep 30 2024 08:29 AM Yeah, I've been monitoring Facebook; nothing new yet. Let's hope good news by year-end. — Surfcat NEW - MARCH OF THE DEAD SURFERS (Released Oct 17, 2024) - Agent Octopus YOUTUBE Video - March of the Dead Surfers NEW AGENT OCTOPUS - BANDCAMP SPOTIFY LINK - AGENT OCTOPUS - SURF Top
Emilien03 Joined: Jul 16, 2008 Posts: 1368 Coyoacán, Distrito Federal	Posted on Oct 15 2024 06:33 PM I was enjoying VenturesMANIA video on YT when Jeff BTD pointed me to this thread which I totally bypassed ... shame on me. — When you have to shoot ... shoot! Don't talk. "Los Grainders" www.facebook.com/losgrainders "Planeta Reverb" www.facebook.com/planetareverb Top
Klas Joined: Feb 26, 2006 Posts: 2292 Stockholm, Sweden	Posted on Oct 16 2024 06:49 AM The Ventures R.I.P. 1967 — T H E ✠ S U R F I T E S Top
ElMonstroPorFavor Joined: Sep 01, 2006 Posts: 2719 New Orleans, LA	Posted on Oct 17 2024 05:23 PM Klas wrote: The Ventures R.I.P. 1967 Well that's a bit crass, what about... ummm.... uh... — Storm Surge of Reverb: Surf & Instro Radio Top
bigtikidude Joined: Feb 27, 2006 Posts: 25544 Anaheim(So.Cal.)U.S.A.	Posted on Oct 17 2024 05:37 PM Please don’t crap on my favorite Carpenters and Jim Croce cover albums. — Jeff(bigtikidude) Top

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