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Joined: Nov 05, 2021 Posts: 62 |
Well I’ve ordered one now, can’t wait to try it out |
Joined: Feb 02, 2008 Posts: 4446 Not One-Sawn, but Two-Sawn . . . AZ. |
Welcome to the club. We’ll fill you in on the secret handshake, later on. —The artist formerly known as: Synchro When Surf Guitar is outlawed only outlaws will play Surf Guitar. |
Joined: Nov 05, 2021 Posts: 62 |
So I’ve had a little time with the Blossom Point, and it was definitely a worthwhile buy I had to experiment to get the ‘right’ sound, but it was so worth it. My Jazzmaster Vintera has hotter pickups and when I first tried it clipped a little but the Blossom Point attenuated the signal with the input control. The presence control dials in the sound perfectly and when it’s about 3 quarters up the drip is amazing. And as I was told it’s somewhat of subtle effect that you really notice when it’s turned off your tone sounds a little weak in comparison. For me it’s a leave on all the time kinda pedal Last edited: Jan 27, 2024 07:54:59 |
Joined: Feb 02, 2008 Posts: 4446 Not One-Sawn, but Two-Sawn . . . AZ. |
dontrunfrombears wrote:
Testify brutha! A lot of people report similar experiences. I leave mine on, all the time. —The artist formerly known as: Synchro When Surf Guitar is outlawed only outlaws will play Surf Guitar. |
Joined: Mar 14, 2006 Posts: 2238 Kiev, Ukraine |
I switch mine off only when I use Saturn VI booster, it feels like too much of overload and compression together. But I like them both, Blossom Point for a clean classic surf sound and Saturn for more grit. —Waikiki Makaki surf-rock band from Ukraine https://linktr.ee/waikikimakaki Lost Diver https://lostdiver.bandcamp.com |
Joined: Feb 02, 2008 Posts: 4446 Not One-Sawn, but Two-Sawn . . . AZ. |
That makes sense. —The artist formerly known as: Synchro When Surf Guitar is outlawed only outlaws will play Surf Guitar. |
Joined: Aug 02, 2012 Posts: 162 Nashville, TN |
I have mine always on with my Fender gear, not so much with other stuff (Gibson guitars, other misc. amps). I've found that bassier guitars can get a little unbalanced and overblown in the low mids. I do love it to death on my offset Fenders and DiPinto Galaxie IV, though! |
Joined: Jan 30, 2024 Posts: 129 |
I hope this isn't a stupid question, but would this pedal help a solid state amp get a more brownface tone? I only have a Fender Ultimate Chorus (kind of a JC120 copy) and a little Spark Go that I usually use with a blackface amp setting... Is it just for pushing tube output or what? |
Joined: Mar 14, 2006 Posts: 2238 Kiev, Ukraine |
AgentClaret wrote:
It works great with solid state as well, I use it with Quilter. —Waikiki Makaki surf-rock band from Ukraine https://linktr.ee/waikikimakaki Lost Diver https://lostdiver.bandcamp.com |
Joined: Jan 30, 2024 Posts: 129 |
Awesome! Good to know and thanks for the reply. |
Joined: Feb 02, 2008 Posts: 4446 Not One-Sawn, but Two-Sawn . . . AZ. |
AgentClaret wrote:
While it can give 6dB of gain, it’s not, in any sense, an overdrive, or designed to push a tube amp into overdrive. —The artist formerly known as: Synchro When Surf Guitar is outlawed only outlaws will play Surf Guitar. |
Joined: Jan 30, 2024 Posts: 129 |
Yeah, I've watched a lot of videos and I kind of get it. It just seems hard to quantify what this thing actually is... it mostly sounds like a spin on a compressor and an attenuator to me. Also, even after 20+ years of playing I've still never owned a tube amp so there's a bit of a gap in my knowledge about how they work. But I'm chasing that sound and there's not a lot of brownface emulation options... Last edited: Feb 07, 2024 08:52:16 |
Joined: Feb 27, 2006 Posts: 3772 tn |
Here is what it says on surfyindustries.com (yes! we have a website!) As big fans of the so-called "brownface" Fender® amplifiers of the early 60s (1960-1963), we have long been thinking of producing an enhancing device to re-create the key features that make those legendary amps so unique. We also wanted to be able to capture that sound with the minimum amount of controls. And so, the BLOSSOM POINT was born! The Blossom Point emulates the special "fat effect" that is obtained by pushing the tubes and the volume of a brownface Fender® Showman® just before distortion. It finds that "sweet spot" (that Dick Dale was calling the "blossom point") of maximum tube compression that changes the entire sound - from its power to the sustain of the guitar and the reverb. The Blossom Point is perfect for the gigging artist who appreciates that sound or is used to playing through one of those old amplifiers. As we know, for live shows and touring, you can be presented with different backline amps and traveling lighter and avoiding bringing a brownface amplifier on the road is always a plus. It saves you money and your back! With the Blossom Point you are secure in knowing you can get the sound you need from any amplifier, even the coldest ones, with affordable ease and portability. INPUT (signal level attenuator) OUTPUT (boost) PRESENCE The Blossom Point works at 9V (also with internal optional battery). —http://www.satanspilgrims.com |
Joined: Jan 30, 2024 Posts: 129 |
Interesting! My Ultimate Chorus has a Presence knob and I never really figured out what it does! |
Joined: Feb 02, 2008 Posts: 4446 Not One-Sawn, but Two-Sawn . . . AZ. |
I’ve used the Blossom Point with an amp that is based on the Deluxe Reverb circuit, and it immediately changed the character of the amp, giving a sound much more like I would associate with a ‘62 Showman. It does exactly what spskins describes. AgentClaret wrote:
Presence, as it was implemented on a Showman, worked with the negative feedback loop of the amp, where some of the output signal was actually fed back into the power amp as a damper. The Presence control allows you to shunt some of the highest frequencies to ground, which means that the highs are not damped as much as the lows and midrange. It’s a gradual taper, so mids are less damped that lows, but the higher end, think upper harmonics, are damped even less than mids. It is, in some effects, much like the Bright Switch, but works completely differently. The Bright Switch uses a capacitor to allow upper frequencies to bypass the volume control, which means that there is a different mix of upper harmonics to fundamentals. The Bright Switch has its greatest effect at lower volumes, and as the volume control is turned higher, the difference between highs and fundamentals decreases. Both the Presence Control and the Bright Switch add a lot of sparkle, but they do it much differently, and this is one contributing factor to why a first generation Showman doesn’t sound much like some of the amps that replaced it in 1964. —The artist formerly known as: Synchro When Surf Guitar is outlawed only outlaws will play Surf Guitar. |
Joined: Dec 11, 2021 Posts: 12 South Coast |
I pretty much had the same question with the solid state amps. There was a guy on youtube who played it into an amp sym and got good results with it and that sold it for me. I use my Blossom Point with my Fender Champion 100 on one of the tweed settings and it does a great job. It doesn't completely transforms the amp but adds a nice bit of "body" to the sound |
Joined: Jan 01, 2008 Posts: 2106 Livorno |
AgentClaret wrote:
This is the reason why we did it making a JC120 sound like a brownface showman. —Lorenzo "Surfer Joe" Valdambrini |
Joined: Jan 30, 2024 Posts: 129 |
Thanks, guys! I think I'm sold... Just gotta figure out if I want that or Surfy Bear first! Last edited: Feb 07, 2024 21:04:53 |
Joined: Dec 10, 2006 Posts: 104 |
I would start with the Surfy Bear first. It’s more essential to the overall traditional surf sound. But I agree that the blossom point is incredibly useful in getting even closer to that classic sound with the feel, width, presence, drip, etc on whatever your gear setup might be. |
Joined: Jan 30, 2024 Posts: 129 |
I've got an EHX Oceans 11 which I feel is getting me close but I definitely want to upgrade to the real thing one day. Basically I feel like I've got my drippy spring reverb down but I need that tight compression sound of a brownface to get it %100 to what I'm hearing in my head... |