chiba
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Central VA
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Posted on Jan 05 2024 09:17 AM
Wasn't sure in which area to post this, so if it needs moved, please do so!
By pure coincidence, a scammer posted a guitar FS on Facebook yesterday owned by a guy I happen to know. No way the scammer could know I was working on an as-yet-uncompleted deal for it at the time and had the uncropped versions of the photos he stole from my friend's online ad.
This is a pretty familiar scam, posting an item for sale with a low but not entirely unbelievable price. The scammer either gets your money or your personal information (from your communications with them), both of which are valuable to scammers. IOW, if you see a price that's borderline too good to be true, it probably is! There's always time for due diligence.
Also, watch out for this scam account on social media. He's out of the discussion group, but still on Facebook. (Somebody else pointed out the account may have been hijacked, so it's a scam on top of a scam.)
Oh... and I'm trading with my buddy for the guitar, so don't bother asking if you can have his contact info
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Taifighter
Joined: Oct 31, 2018
Posts: 225
Indiana
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Posted on Jan 05 2024 09:56 AM
Stuff like this is why I am very quietly offering a guitar for sale, as opposed to fb groups or forums. Scammers, either selling or buying, make wheeling & dealing too risky anymore. Sucks. Used to have fun finding deals and trading in/trading up but for me that kind of action is over
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IceratzSurf
Joined: Oct 22, 2022
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Posted on Jan 05 2024 12:50 PM
I never trust anything for sale on Fakebook or any other forum.
Sorry don't mean to crap on SG101 but like all other internet forums there is no buyer protection.
(I am sure there are many honest transactions here on SG101, but I do question membership activities with porn sites being posted)
Ebay is the only reliable platform to buy and sell. Why? They are in charge of making certain that sales are legitimate. As a buyer you have excellent protection from everything from poor description or broken items to lost delivery.
As a seller you build your own reputation.
I have bought and sold over 1000 items.
At least bought and sold 20 guitars and about 50 pedals.
I am not a dealer, just someone who likes to buy and try, then sell if not interested.
The way funds are handled could not be safer or more reliable.
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Taifighter
Joined: Oct 31, 2018
Posts: 225
Indiana
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Posted on Jan 05 2024 02:40 PM
Not to hijack the thread, but my wife and I just drove 1200+ miles round-trip (straight through!) to buy a set of winter wheels and tires for a Porsche Macan. The seller (who turned out to be an absolute honest and nice guy) was hesitant at first but we worked out a deal and each kept our end of the
bargain.
I absolutely would not do anything through a site other than eBay, or Reverb, for a person-to-person deal if it could not be done in person.
Even then, in person deals could be sketch.
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chiba
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Central VA
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Posted on Jan 05 2024 02:55 PM
In-person deals can be a little sketchy, but they're my preference. I have no problem walking away from a deal if it feels off.
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edwardsand
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Posted on Jan 05 2024 04:28 PM
There are certainly loads of scammers out there, but I've managed to mostly avoid them. I have seen scams like this crop up on Craig's List, where the price for an item is very temptingly low, and I usually copy and paste the text to do a search, and lots of times, I see the same item show up for sale in other states, making it an obvious scam.
For FB marketplace, I've bought a couple of things with no problem, and at least on that platform, you can check out a seller's profile and see how long they've been on FB.
And I definitely prefer ebay - I've also bought and sold tons of stuff there - but there are still some scams that show up.
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Brian
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Des Moines, Iowa, USA
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Posted on Jan 05 2024 04:46 PM
IceratzSurf wrote:
(I am sure there are many honest transactions here on SG101, but I do question membership activities with porn sites being posted)
Please show me a forum on the internet that doesn't get porn spam. We don't have the resources like FB to automatically remove those posts unfortunately.
Of course you should be careful here. A common scam is some new member shows up, reads the for-sale forum, then private messages people saying they have the same items for much less.
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Sonichris
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Posted on Jan 05 2024 08:41 PM
I think the porn spam is funny. "How do they know what I like?"
That's a joke.
I usually look to places like SG101 to sell stuff. I know most everybody, or can vet them.
If the seller is new, I pass. If the seller is a long time contributor, I'd be interested in what they are selling. I've bought some really sweet stuff here.
That 1x15 cabinet is cool!
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synchro
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Not One-Sawn, but Two-Sawn . . . AZ.
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Posted on Jan 05 2024 10:29 PM
I get several emails per week about various scams and security risks online. Because this is part of my profession, I have to keep up on these things, and my employer pays some serious money to keep us up on the risk environment.
What amazes me, is how elaborate some of these schemes are. One of the best clues that something is amiss, is if there is a sense of urgency. If you can’t make the deal at a normal pace, it’s time to take a deep breath and ask yourself if this even could be a scam.
Porn spam is a real headache, for any forum. A few years ago, the forum I moderate was getting clobbered with fake degree spam. I would wake up to dozens, every day. It’s a fine balance, because if you restrict new members, or make them jump through hoops, you’ll chase away legitimate members, as well.
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taijiguy
Joined: Mar 27, 2006
Posts: 210
Newington, CT USA
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Posted on Jan 06 2024 07:16 AM
Apparently, his ID has been hijacked, because he has a Facebook history going back to 2019 and he is actually a professor at Central Methodist University. It's always good to do a little research.
https://news.centralmethodist.edu/2020/01/witter-hired-as-director-music-ministry.html
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chiba
Joined: Sep 02, 2022
Posts: 514
Central VA
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Posted on Jan 06 2024 08:15 AM
It's a DOUBLE scam!! Thanks for pointing this out.
taijiguy wrote:
Apparently, his ID has been hijacked, because he has a Facebook history going back to 2019 and he is actually a professor at Central Methodist University. It's always good to do a little research.
https://news.centralmethodist.edu/2020/01/witter-hired-as-director-music-ministry.html
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taijiguy
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Posted on Jan 06 2024 08:54 AM
Which makes it even worse.
chiba wrote:
It's a DOUBLE scam!! Thanks for pointing this out.
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edwardsand
Joined: Jun 29, 2018
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Posted on Jan 06 2024 03:37 PM
And as far as porn spam on this site goes, I report it as soon as it shows up, and Brian does a good job of staying on top of it. I haven't seen any show up in quite some time.
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Brian
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Des Moines, Iowa, USA
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Posted on Jan 07 2024 05:16 PM
edwardsand wrote:
And as far as porn spam on this site goes, I report it as soon as it shows up, and Brian does a good job of staying on top of it. I haven't seen any show up in quite some time.
It happens a lot unfortunately. Special shoutout to Danny Snyder for helping me delete it.
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synchro
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Not One-Sawn, but Two-Sawn . . . AZ.
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Posted on Jan 23 2024 09:30 PM
Too bad it’s not legit. That’s a beautiful, beautiful axe. The price is too good to be true.
— The artist formerly known as: Synchro
When Surf Guitar is outlawed only outlaws will play Surf Guitar.
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chiba
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Central VA
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Posted on Jan 25 2024 01:34 PM
Finally connected with my buddy to trade cash for the guitar.
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synchro
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Posted on Jan 25 2024 08:45 PM
chiba wrote:
Finally connected with my buddy to trade cash for the guitar.
Who are you trying to fool? That’s a fake newspaper, you’ve had this planned for years!
In all, seriousness, congrats on a great looking axe.
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When Surf Guitar is outlawed only outlaws will play Surf Guitar.
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chiba
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Central VA
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Posted on Jan 26 2024 07:24 AM
synchro wrote:
Who are you trying to fool? That’s a fake newspaper, you’ve had this planned for years!
hahahaha thanks for a great laugh to start my day!
In all, seriousness, congrats on a great looking axe.
Appreciate it. When I got my first Jazzmaster in '22, I honestly wasn't sure I was going to like it. The last offset I had was a weird Epiphone back in the early '90s, and I'd converted that one to a fake 7-string (left it 6 strings, but strung it B E A D G B) so it didn't get played quite as much as my other guitars. Now that I know I like the platform, I wanted to get another. Couldn't pass this one up. The U-shaped neck is a little odd, but I'll get used to it!
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synchro
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Posted on Jan 26 2024 07:49 AM
chiba wrote:
synchro wrote:
Who are you trying to fool? That’s a fake newspaper, you’ve had this planned for years!
hahahaha thanks for a great laugh to start my day!
In all, seriousness, congrats on a great looking axe.
Appreciate it. When I got my first Jazzmaster in '22, I honestly wasn't sure I was going to like it. The last offset I had was a weird Epiphone back in the early '90s, and I'd converted that one to a fake 7-string (left it 6 strings, but strung it B E A D G B) so it didn't get played quite as much as my other guitars. Now that I know I like the platform, I wanted to get another. Couldn't pass this one up. The U-shaped neck is a little odd, but I'll get used to it!
Thanks for that post, your new JM, along with today’s paper, to prove that it is an authentic, contemporary photo. Very cloak and dagger. I couldn’t resist the jab.
I need another guitar like a need another hole in my head, but a white on white Jazzmaster comes to me in my dreams, and tortures my psyche. I’ve owned Strats, Teles, Jaguars and even an original Coronado, but never a Jazzmaster, which is ironic, considering that, first and foremost, I consider myself a Jazz guitarist, and the JM was seriously designed as a solid body Jazz guitar. I’ve actually played Jazz on one, and they aren’t bad as a Jazz axe.
But that particular guitar you bought is a work of art. The stripes are fascinating, to me, because being in line with the strings and tailpiece, I didn’t even notice them at first. It’s subtle, like a beige Chevy Bel-Air with a 427 badge on the front fender, and a Hurst Competition Plus shifter coming through the floor. You could walk right past it, and not notice, but once you did notice, you can’t ignore it.
IMO, that’n is a keeper.
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When Surf Guitar is outlawed only outlaws will play Surf Guitar.
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chiba
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Central VA
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Posted on Jan 27 2024 09:43 AM
synchro wrote:
IMO, that’n is a keeper.
100% agree. I'm not normally a fan of all-white guitars, but this one ... man, it just caught my eye and inspired my imagination.
The only other all-white guitar I've kept over the years is an early PRS Mira, and TBH I keep it more for the sound and feel than the looks, although it does look fantastic with its snazzy gold hardware.
(I put a noiseless single coil in there in place of the original neck humbucker, using a white pearl mounting ring a friend made for me to match the original pickguard (it's not a perfect match, but you can't tell from 20' at any rate). IMO PRS missed out by sticking to the HH tradition with these! They did some with 2xP90, but those didn't do it for me.)
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