weird_oh84
Joined: May 24, 2023
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Posted on Aug 26 2023 11:44 AM
Just curious… how often do you mess up when performing live?
Does it bother you or can you push on?
I’ve seen quite a few performances of Dick Dale where he “messes up” but he somehow rebounds and is able to make it sound “right”
which is more important to you… a technically accurate performance or one that is imperfect but has the soul and energy? I tend to go for the latter , but definitely wish my playing was more accurate lol !
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Joelman
Joined: Sep 07, 2006
Posts: 1506
Redlands, CA
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Posted on Aug 26 2023 12:29 PM
I never messed up. I was just playing a veriation.
I went to a Mark Knopfler concert at the Hollywood Bowl once.
He messed up two songs that, I noticed. He didn’t recover well.
but To be honest he seemed very tired. He was at the end of a tour.
Everyone messes up sometimes.
Heck I was at the same place, at a Wayne Newton show, and he stopped the band because he had forgotten the words to a song.
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JohnnyMosrite
Joined: Jun 14, 2006
Posts: 913
New York City area
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Posted on Aug 26 2023 01:01 PM
I've had a few instances where the equipment messed up. I actually had a guitar keep popping the same string out of the saddle during a performance, but the string stayed put no matter how hard I whacked on it practicing.
I've experienced the "Spinal Tap" amp syndrome where my guitar/amp combination picked up a radio show. That is annoying.
Then there's always the whole guitar going out of tune over a busted string with a Bigsby Vibrato or similar tremolo.
And yeah - mea culpa, mea culpa. I have gone off beat or hit the wrong note. Sliding or slurring the note usually fixes that.
To err is human.
J Mo'
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h3dg3h0g
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San Francisco East Bay Area
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Posted on Aug 26 2023 01:23 PM
I never mess up.
Sometimes my frets and strings appear in the wrong place at the wrong time.
This is why I continually upgrade my guitars. Looking for one that doesn’t mess up.
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ldk
Joined: Nov 08, 2017
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San Francisco Bay Area
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Posted on Aug 26 2023 02:55 PM
I nearly always am just playing for myself. The times I've played in front of others, each song had mistakes, but not too noticable.
If I played in a public venue, I'd have to practice a lot more.
My guitar experience is similar to my piano experience growing up. I didn't practice much but had some basic skill. I'd always mess up, sometimes badly, at recitals the piano teachers had. Once, though, for a college course I needed to play a difficult Beethoven sonata, and I practiced the hell out of it. The performance had only three small mistakes that the teacher did not notice.
So, I take this as a lesson for my guitar playing that as long as the song is not above my skill level, I could play it near perfectly if I practiced enough, and especially practiced the hard parts slowly, building up speed. Of course, I don't do that. I just play a song through once or twice and then move onto the next song.
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DannySnyder
Joined: Mar 02, 2006
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Berkeley, CA
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Posted on Aug 26 2023 03:21 PM
I suspect only the few who play very regularly don't make a few clams with every performance.
— Danny Snyder
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BB_Bunny
Joined: Sep 13, 2020
Posts: 182
New York
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Posted on Aug 26 2023 03:45 PM
There's actually a pretty good blog about this called The Bullet Proof Musician.. It's about the psychology of performance dissecting why we can practice things perfectly at home, but then royally screw them up when performing in front of other people. This is a huge topic of conversation in concert/classical music circles where perfection is often assumed and the critiques relate more to your interpretation of the rep than your ability to play it 'correctly'.
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SabedLeepski
Joined: Jul 18, 2018
Posts: 128
Tilburg
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Posted on Aug 26 2023 07:04 PM
While I prefer to not make too many mistakes myself while playing, I actually tend to enjoy a few minor mistakes in live shows I visit, provided that the band members can laugh it off and recover.
— Surfin’ Europe – Surf gigs in Europe
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psychonaut
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Posted on Aug 26 2023 11:11 PM
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Sonichris
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Wear gloves - I'm in the Rockies
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Posted on Aug 27 2023 10:04 AM
I mess up quite a bit, and make a face after so EVERYONE knows I messed up.
It's my thing.
— "You can't tell where you're going if you don't know where you've been"
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Samurai
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Kiev, Ukraine
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Posted on Aug 27 2023 10:14 AM
We all mess up sometimes, even the best of us. The main thing as it was said above by Victor is to go on and just show that you have meant to do it. Surely if you mess up often, especially in timing (audience mostly doesn’t hear a wrong note but surely hears wrong timing) than it’s a problem.
A couple of things I have learn during my years of gigging
- band members should feel and hear each other. When someone fails all others go on, not stopping and looking at him. Prolonging the part some more measures and waiting for the player to join back works great.
- the less you think about your playing on scene the less mistakes you make, so rehearse till it’s automatic, get drunk and have fun)
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DeathTide
Joined: Apr 13, 2018
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New Orleans
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Posted on Aug 27 2023 12:04 PM
Being on the spectrum I cannot help but wince or grimace when I would hit a sour note. Because there are thousands of notes in one set, I was happy if I only messed up 10 or 20 strokes. But each one would jump out at me like a slap. Every single person told me they wouldn't have noticed anything if I hadn't made that expression, but it seems to be hardwired
— Daniel Deathtide
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synchro
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Posted on Aug 27 2023 06:01 PM
I don’t think that any player could legitimately claim to never making mistakes. I’ve even heard Chet Atkins make mistakes in concerts. I would say that keeping your scales up helps, because scales train your procedural memory and make it easier to play notes that, at the very least, fit in with the key of the song.
What I think is at least as important as not making mistakes, would be how to recover from a mistake. If you recover skillfully, a mistake can pass by, unnoticed. What I’ve observed is that the wrong pitch played at the right time may not even be noticeable to most listeners, but the right pitch played at the wrong time will never sound good.
Practice: it’s how to get to Carnegie Hall.
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BrentD
Joined: Apr 07, 2009
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Michigan
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Posted on Aug 27 2023 07:40 PM
I haven't played live in a long time.
BUT! I'm with synchro, psychonaut, and the rest on this. It's more about how you handle it.
Always remember: If you screw up once, it's a mistake. If you screw up a bunch of times, it's jazz!
— Neptune Trojans
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synchro
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Posted on Aug 27 2023 07:47 PM
BrentD wrote:
I haven't played live in a long time.
BUT! I'm with synchro, psychonaut, and the rest on this. It's more about how you handle it.
Always remember: If you screw up once, it's a mistake. If you screw up a bunch of times, it's jazz!

— The artist formerly known as: Synchro
When Surf Guitar is outlawed only outlaws will play Surf Guitar.
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chiba
Joined: Sep 02, 2022
Posts: 538
Central VA
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Posted on Aug 28 2023 12:03 PM
weird_oh84 wrote:
Just curious… how often do you mess up when performing live?
Probably once a set or so.
Does it bother you or can you push on?
It bothers me and I push on.
which is more important to you… a technically accurate performance or one that is imperfect but has the soul and energy? I tend to go for the latter , but definitely wish my playing was more accurate lol !
Performance first, perfection second. I prefer to be 100% accurate, but barring that, I hope to be 100% fun.
True story: At a gig on Friday, 3rd song in starts with the band all in and me playing a distinctive melody.
I played the first line one fret sharp. Once I realized I was off, I just stopped and waited for the verse to come around, then kept on.
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sysmalakian
Joined: Dec 24, 2015
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México
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Posted on Aug 28 2023 04:18 PM
I try to do 100% accurate always but it's sometimes impossible (you are having a lot of fun, dancing with people, too much tired, etc), When it happens i just go on and continue the show, a lot of times people even didn't notice. I prefer to balance between performance and sound, not giving too much to one side
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SixStringSurfer
Joined: Sep 23, 2014
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Memphis, TN
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Posted on Aug 29 2023 12:57 PM
Great thread, and love everyone's honesty. I have only had 4 gigs in my life, and I have messed up in all of them. I will continue to make mistakes, as this stuff is really hard to play (esp since there are no vocals, lead guitar is the vocal).
One thing I have noticed, I am getting better and better at recovering quickly after a mistake. Having said that, I like it when I go to a show and see the musicians make a mistake. It shows me that they are human just like the rest of us.
On my bands Youtube channel, I clearly state that we never use backing tracks, overdubbing, or lip synching. What you see, is what you get. I hate it when bands use backing tracks, and correct their mistakes in post production.
In closing, I do make mistakes during live performances. The key is to have fun, quickly recover, and keep moving on.
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weird_oh84
Joined: May 24, 2023
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Posted on Aug 29 2023 02:14 PM
SixStringSurfer wrote:
Great thread, and love everyone's honesty. I have only had 4 gigs in my life, and I have messed up in all of them. I will continue to make mistakes, as this stuff is really hard to play (esp since there are no vocals, lead guitar is the vocal).
One thing I have noticed, I am getting better and better at recovering quickly after a mistake. Having said that, I like it when I go to a show and see the musicians make a mistake. It shows me that they are human just like the rest of us.
On my bands Youtube channel, I clearly state that we never use backing tracks, overdubbing, or lip synching. What you see, is what you get. I hate it when bands use backing tracks, and correct their mistakes in post production.
In closing, I do make mistakes during live performances. The key is to have fun, quickly recover, and keep moving on. 
I too appreciate seeing other artists make mistakes… it reminds me that we are all on the same journey and are fighting the same struggle 
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weird_oh84
Joined: May 24, 2023
Posts: 207
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Posted on Aug 29 2023 02:15 PM
SixStringSurfer wrote:
Great thread, and love everyone's honesty. I have only had 4 gigs in my life, and I have messed up in all of them. I will continue to make mistakes, as this stuff is really hard to play (esp since there are no vocals, lead guitar is the vocal).
One thing I have noticed, I am getting better and better at recovering quickly after a mistake. Having said that, I like it when I go to a show and see the musicians make a mistake. It shows me that they are human just like the rest of us.
On my bands Youtube channel, I clearly state that we never use backing tracks, overdubbing, or lip synching. What you see, is what you get. I hate it when bands use backing tracks, and correct their mistakes in post production.
In closing, I do make mistakes during live performances. The key is to have fun, quickly recover, and keep moving on. 
seeing other artists make mistakes gives me the confidence to keep playing…it may sound weird but it’s inspiring in a way
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