Has anyone tried the Frettable app yet?
Any experience with, or gossip about the app?
Thanks
Joel

From what I can decipher from the web site, you play, and it writes and records the music.
It could be very handy when writing original music, and for dissecting music from other sources.
I might try it, after I get my computer back from being fixed.

Joel

I had a quick look at their legal terms. Any music you upload is theirs to use anyway they want.

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synchro wrote:

ldk wrote:

I had a quick look at their legal terms. Any music you upload is theirs to use anyway they want.

Damn! Well, there goes that.

hummmm. So a user pays to rent their app. Then they can then use the users uploaded music anyway they want.

yeah, that sounds just like every thing else in this world these days.
I knew it sounded to good to be true.
Joel

Reading their music rights and terms of use, it seems to me that the situation is more complex than " Any music you upload is theirs to use anyway they want."

https://www.frettable.com/rights/

https://www.frettable.com/terms/

and specifically - https://www.frettable.com/terms/#permission-material

As I read it, they say that they can use the material on their site, but not elsewhere, and that the author retains his/her copyright. I do agree that this is giving something up. If I had copyrightable material I thought had serious commercial potential, I'd consult an attorney before using anything that had terms like this. To me, it's a slippery slope giving anybody formal permission to use anything. But I think terms of use like this are pretty common.

I see the functionality as merely a convenience - if I really wanted to transcribe my music to sheet music or tab, I'd just write the music or tab. There is quite a bit of software available to assist in transcription of music, including free/open-source software such as MuseScore, and a bunch of commercial software. There is a really simple little open source, Java-based program called TuxGuitar that I occasionally use to quickly generate simple sheet music or tab if I want to record a melody or something like that.

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Here's part of the paragraph that got my attention.

... by uploading or recording audio, posting messages, uploading files, inputting data or engaging in any other form of communication to or within the Site, you hereby grant the Company a perpetual, worldwide, irrevocable, unrestricted, nonexclusive, royalty-free license to use (including use for promotional and advertising purposes), copy, adapt, distribute, display, publicly perform, reproduce, transmit, modify, edit and otherwise exploit the content of your communications and any ideas or original materials contained therein, ...

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Yes, I've used MuseScore and TuxGuitar. They are not the same as this frettable app. It's not as easy as just plugging your guitar in and it instantly generates sheet music or tab. But I think they make it significantly easier to generate a computer score or tab. They also cost absolutely nothing to try - they're both free and open-source.

MuseScore is more complex and also significantly more powerful. I just use TuxGuitar to input tabs as if I were playing on a guitar, and it transcribes to standard sheet music notation above it. I use it to jot down basic melodies fairly quickly before I forget them. Once installed, it can be used right away, it's pretty intuitive.

But again - these are not "play it, and the tab/sheet-music appears" kind of solution. There may be some type of offline program that does that, but I don't know about it if there is.

Here's part of the paragraph that got my attention.

... by uploading or recording audio, posting messages, uploading files, inputting data or engaging in any other form of communication to or within the Site, you hereby grant the Company a perpetual, worldwide, irrevocable, unrestricted, nonexclusive, royalty-free license to use (including use for promotional and advertising purposes), copy, adapt, distribute, display, publicly perform, reproduce, transmit, modify, edit and otherwise exploit the content of your communications and any ideas or original materials contained therein

Yes, this is the part that I would not agree to either. They're saying they can use it nonexclusively without restriction. I am not advocating using this program. But I am pointing out that they also state this in that same section:

For avoidance of doubt: (a) the Company will not reproduce, retransmit, or publish the audio recording of your material other than through the Site or sites and applications owned and operated by it; and (b) nothing herein shall be construed to prevent you from using or manipulating Your Material and the Products derived from Your Material as part of musical composition(s) written and/or composed by you. In summary, you continue to own the copyright in Your Material outside of its use on the Site and you are giving us permission to incorporate Your Material within the Site.

But even with that, I personally would not use this app because I'm not confident I understand the full legal implications of these terms of use. In my non-attorney mind, it seems to me that these two clauses may be contradictory at some level, and I don't know how that would resolve legally.

Seriously - I'm not trying to give advice. I'm just stating how I read this and why I would also be wary, in spite of their assurances.

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