RaistMagus
Joined: Mar 30, 2011
Posts: 388
Copenhagen
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Posted on May 02 2022 05:40 AM
Hi all. I got a JM with the PV65 pickups and they sound too polite and tame and scooped. Most importantly, they don't push my reverb tank into drip or slight overdrive, like the AVRI62 used to. With the AVRI62 through the reverb unit I instantly got the tone I had been hearing in old recordings. With the PV65 I really have to palm mute to get any drip, like e.g. with my strat.
Has your experience been the same? Since the AVRI62 pickups are no longer sold, what other pickup do you recommend? I was thinking about the Seymour Duncan vintage, 50s sound with mids and Alnico5 magnets, or the Antiquities (I or II).
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Last edited: May 02, 2022 05:43:54
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kick_the_reverb
Joined: Feb 26, 2006
Posts: 1339
Escondido, CA
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Posted on May 02 2022 12:14 PM
I took out all the AV65 Jazzmaster pickups from any of my guitars that had them. They are thin, shrill, and low output. While AVRI62 Jazzmaster pickups are not made anymore, I find them on eBay/Reverb occasionally and buy them. That's the low-buck option, but can take too much time. Novak has historic series Jazzmaster pickups that are an option. I have the 58 version on a Squier, and they sound good, but you may want to get his 62 version.
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Ran
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dannylectro
Joined: Aug 18, 2008
Posts: 373
Orange, CA
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Posted on Jun 06 2022 11:10 PM
What you want is heavy formvar pickups, not plain enamel wire pickups. Heavy formvar is warmer and more midrange focused.
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Sonichris
Joined: Mar 06, 2006
Posts: 1909
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Posted on Jun 07 2022 08:52 AM
dannylectro wrote:
What you want is heavy formvar pickups, not plain enamel wire pickups. Heavy formvar is warmer and more midrange focused.
That's an open ended statement. what about 42g vs 43g? What about magnets, and wind count, wind heighth and tighness. All that affects what a pickup sounds like. I think wind count and magents change it more than coating on the wire.
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dannylectro
Joined: Aug 18, 2008
Posts: 373
Orange, CA
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Posted on Jun 08 2022 04:22 AM
Heavy formvar with alnico 5 magnets is what the early Jazzmaster pickups used. They later switched to plain enamel wire with alnico 5 magnets and the sound became brighter and mids more scooped
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Sonichris
Joined: Mar 06, 2006
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Posted on Jun 08 2022 09:01 AM
dannylectro wrote:
Heavy formvar with alnico 5 magnets is what the early Jazzmaster pickups used. They later switched to plain enamel wire with alnico 5 magnets and the sound became brighter and mids more scooped
It's my understanding the early JM pickups used alnico 2 magnets. later alnico 5, and then later different wire. Leo Fender, was, during his time, insistant on Formvar wire. Only after CBS's takeover did it change to other wire,
Theres's dozens of custom winders who all have their own recipe for that early JM sound, and they all do it a bit differently. They all claim they got that sound using lots of different stuff. That was my point.
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