SHADOWNIGHT5150
Joined: Jul 14, 2013
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Posted on Aug 25 2020 12:10 PM
I’m still working on my build
I originally wanted to make a reverb and tremolo kit combo into a old army bullet box but now since the surfy compact came out it got me to thinking of getting a pedal enclosure with a small reverb tank and doing it that way
my only question would be can I get a short tank with two springs and still get the classic drip
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edwardsand
Joined: Jun 29, 2018
Posts: 756
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Posted on Sep 04 2020 04:57 PM
I've been experimenting with short tanks and have found that the current Accutronics 1AB2B1B pan can create some good drip. However, I found that the gain on the Surfy Bear board was set too high and made the reverb too strong and washy, distorted even. So I had to play around to turn down the gain, now it's much better.
And just today I got some long pans to play with, and found that hooking them up the gain is set too low for them, and you have to turn the controls all the way up to get much drip.
Not sure what other people have experienced or why there is such a difference between long and short pans - the impedance levels in type 1 vs type 4 might be different but I didn't think it would make such a difference.
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MayTheFuzzBeWithYou
Joined: May 03, 2020
Posts: 44
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Posted on Sep 05 2020 03:21 AM
@edwardsand
I experienced something similar when I tried my long MOD tank instead of the short one in my Fender Vaporizer and there was hardly any Reverb noticeable - and the signal received quite a volume drop too - the other way around - short tank with the Surfy Bear worked quite good as far as I remember... but this has been quite some time ago...
Concerning the gain... do you use a 12V+/1A power source?
and where's would you adjust the gain? Is there a trim-pot? Honestly can‘t remember...and on the pics of the circuit I haven‘t seen any.
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edwardsand
Joined: Jun 29, 2018
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Posted on Sep 05 2020 10:09 AM
I am using a 12V power source (I think it's 2 or 3 amps). There is a trim pot, at least on the newer revisions of the board (I'm not sure about the first version). It's tiny, and located between the Dwell and signal input connections, labelled R12/gain adj. It seems to be free turning, in that you can spin it 360 degrees and keep spinning it - maybe that's how most trimpots work, but I don't know.
Bjorn has said that the trim pots are factory set and usually you don't need to mess with them, but in my case it makes an important difference for using a short pan vs. long pan. My enclosure will only fit a short pan, but I also added external jacks so I could plug in a different pan if I want. This makes it easy to do A/B comparisons, and the differences are easily noticeable.
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jgrostko20
Joined: Sep 25, 2020
Posts: 1
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Posted on Sep 25 2020 01:18 PM
does anyone have any audio demos of surfybear on vocals and/or drums? i'm an engineer looking for a spring to mix with outside (and including!) guitar.... Thanks!
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spskins
Joined: Feb 27, 2006
Posts: 3774
tn
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Posted on Sep 25 2020 09:25 PM
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Tqi
Joined: Dec 07, 2014
Posts: 1222
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Posted on Sep 27 2020 06:14 PM
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kangaroobbq
Joined: Apr 22, 2019
Posts: 9
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Posted on Sep 28 2020 03:35 AM
I finally finished mine earlier this year. I used both the reverb and tremolo kits and put them in a mojotone cab and chassis. Really happy with the end result. Looks and sounds great
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kangaroobbq
Joined: Apr 22, 2019
Posts: 9
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Posted on Sep 28 2020 03:36 AM
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kangaroobbq
Joined: Apr 22, 2019
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Posted on Sep 28 2020 03:37 AM
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Gevalt
Joined: Jun 25, 2019
Posts: 10
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Posted on Oct 12 2020 05:23 PM
You guys are so inspirational!
I can't wait to finish my build and post pics, too! Mine is a 2-channel SurfyBear in a pedal box.
BTW, if anyone has a tremolo PCB in working cond., please PM me, thanks!
Every time I see a shootout vid, Surfy wins! There's one where the Fender sounds louder, but if you raise the vol. on their recording, the Surfy is exactly the same as their Fender
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Tqi
Joined: Dec 07, 2014
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Posted on Oct 24 2020 05:31 AM
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Gevalt
Joined: Jun 25, 2019
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Posted on Oct 26 2020 04:53 PM
oops double post
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ach
Joined: Mar 22, 2020
Posts: 9
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Posted on Oct 29 2020 10:24 AM
Gevalt wrote:
Finally finished my pedal! A 2 Channel Surfybear Spring Reverb in as small a form as possible. Inspired by Dick Dale's Chartreuse Sparkle Strat.
@Gevalt Great job! Looks sweet. How did you go about switching all three pots on a single footswitch? On my similar build, I moved several caps and connections off board, which would have worked to chain the mix and treble, but not the dwell. Is it a 4pdt stomp?
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ach
Joined: Mar 22, 2020
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Posted on Oct 29 2020 04:48 PM
SHADOWNIGHT5150 wrote:
my only question would be can I get a short tank with two springs and still get the classic drip
I tried 4 different tanks and for under by pedalboard I chose the TAD (Tube Amp Doctor) 8AB3C1B, Long Decay, 3-Spring tank. It is as close to the desired sound as is possible in the short format, has great drip, and none of the harshness I found with other variants. Highly recommend!
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terma_reverb
Joined: Apr 17, 2012
Posts: 47
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Posted on Dec 30 2020 06:22 AM
Hello! Has anyone tried to modify the Surfy Bear Metal with a double mixer knob, as it is described in the Surfy Bear site FAQ? I was thinking to add a double knob and modify the on/off button to switch between the two settings. I will not be able to bypass the effect but I don't need to turn it off anyway. If I want to simulate the on/off button I will just turn one mixer all the way to dry...
ps. I hope this is not a double post. After a quick search I did not find a specific answer. It will take some days to catch up 100+ pages on this topic...
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DannySnyder
Joined: Mar 02, 2006
Posts: 11053
Berkeley, CA
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Posted on Dec 30 2020 09:50 AM
terma_reverb wrote:
Hello! Has anyone tried to modify the Surfy Bear Metal with a double mixer knob, as it is described in the Surfy Bear site FAQ? I was thinking to add a double knob and modify the on/off button to switch between the two settings. I will not be able to bypass the effect but I don't need to turn it off anyway. If I want to simulate the on/off button I will just turn one mixer all the way to dry...
Surfy has this available that will get you the same results if you're interested.
— Danny Snyder
"With great reverb comes great responsibility" - Uncle Leo
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Latest surf project - Now That's What I Call SURF
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terma_reverb
Joined: Apr 17, 2012
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Posted on Dec 30 2020 10:03 AM
DannySnyder wrote:
Surfy has this available that will get you the same results if you're interested.
I thought this is compatible only for the Surfy Bear 2.0 Classic (according to the web site). Is it also compatible with the metal version?
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DannySnyder
Joined: Mar 02, 2006
Posts: 11053
Berkeley, CA
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Posted on Dec 30 2020 10:10 AM
I believe there's a way to make it work, let's ask Ted...
— Danny Snyder
"With great reverb comes great responsibility" - Uncle Leo
Playing keys and guitar with Combo Tezeta
Formerly a guitarist in The TomorrowMen and Meshugga Beach Party
Latest surf project - Now That's What I Call SURF
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spskins
Joined: Feb 27, 2006
Posts: 3774
tn
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Posted on Dec 30 2020 10:53 AM
terma_reverb wrote:
Hello! Has anyone tried to modify the Surfy Bear Metal with a double mixer knob, as it is described in the Surfy Bear site FAQ? I was thinking to add a double knob and modify the on/off button to switch between the two settings. I will not be able to bypass the effect but I don't need to turn it off anyway. If I want to simulate the on/off button I will just turn one mixer all the way to dry...
ps. I hope this is not a double post. After a quick search I did not find a specific answer. It will take some days to catch up 100+ pages on this topic...
Hello!
The answer in the FAQ is about modifying the DIY kit, which has been discontinued. It will not work with the Metal. Sorry.
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