BeatBuddy drum machine pedal

Surf_Skater

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Posts: 1300
Lawrenceville , GA
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Posted on Jun 05 2019 07:33 PM

Didn't Drumsdick add some drum tracks to the downloads section? They may be able to sample those.
I know it's cliche, but we could just point them in the direction of the Pulp fiction soundtrack.

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Squid

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Portland, Oregon with Insanitizers
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Posted on Jun 06 2019 12:39 AM

Besides my originals, songs I use the Beat Buddy for at gigs include:
Pipeline
Telstar
Apache
Geronimo
Man of Mystery
Walk Don't Run
Diamond Head
Hernando's Hideaway
Sukiyaki
El Choclo
the Munsters
Wheels
Dark Eyes
Journey to the Stars
Surf Rider
Secret Agent Man
California Dreamin'
Out of Limits
Lonely Bull
Misirlou-Hava Nagila Mashup
Karelia
Valot (Lights)

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cambeezy

Joined: Jun 26, 2007
Posts: 399
Cleveland, Ohio
United States

Posted on Jun 08 2019 09:46 PM

Thanks for the input, guys. I forwarded a link to this thread to Russ at Groovemonkee, so maybe he'll weigh in on surf beats.

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Surfing_Sam_61

Joined: Jan 15, 2019
Posts: 1515

Posted on Jun 09 2019 02:40 PM

Yeah Cambeezy

I was playing along to a lot of songs on the various volumes Lost Legends of The Surf Guitar series (4 CD's) and most songs on there only has the Surf Beat a.k.a. The Lindy Beat

I think that might be the only main pattern needed for a vast majority of midi songs for surf. Dunno I think we could fake our way through with just this one pattern with a few other 50's style patterns as well

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Squid

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Posted on Jun 09 2019 05:44 PM

You can view & hear three video recordings of live performances where I used the Beat Buddy for surf beats and appropriate fills at the beginning of this SG101 thread:
https://surfguitar101.com/forums/topic/31760/?page=1

Although my right foot is not visible in the videos you can tell when I press the Beat Buddy pedal by movements of my body.

For each song I had selected the beat patterns, fills, title, and BPM long before the performance. Our set list was in the Beat Buddy, and we simply clicked through the Beat Buddy as we went through our set.

I could have titled the thread "Beat Buddy Live Performances of Surf Guitar" or "Super Surfy Spring Reverb and Delay Zoom G1Xon pedal" because these recordings illustrate these as well as illustrating what a duo can sound like.

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Surfing_Sam_61

Joined: Jan 15, 2019
Posts: 1515

Posted on Jun 09 2019 07:28 PM

Yeah that sounds good Squid

The only thing I can see about these drum pedals is it has relatively perfect time - where a real drummer pulls on the beat a bit and can play flexible time on the fly when needed. I can change the tempo etc but your playing and kicking a pedal at the same time which makes it much harder perform I think. Yet at the same time I like the total control a solo opportunity and drum pedal like this provides.

Been working on everything but my Surf solo band the last two weeks, so my Surf Guitar career skill declined a bit. Have not had much time to mess with the Beat Buddy either. Much like everything else I have it takes me a long while to learn and remember all the techniques and information in the manuals, some I have had for years and never got around to it yet. So much to do and so little time, what's new?

Myself I like the idea of just using the Surf Beat if I can find it on the oldies section of the SD card and just winging it pushing pedals on the fly instead of a whole song midi file etc....You can do song mash-ups that way and play different sets etc and versions of songs. I play that way anyway, even when I play along to songs I go into outer space jamming and trying different stuff on most songs/ The only song I usually play like a record is Walk Don't Run and even then alternate between the 64 version and the earlier one just because I never seem to be able to think of a different way to perform that tune. But there are a lot of A minor type songs that you can mash-up on the fly as well with either version or at least that's my idea.

I seem to have about a 30 song buffer brain in my head from memory and then have to write a down set list for all the other songs I know or I can't even think of the name of the songs, but soon as I see the name I can remember the tune, not sure if I can remember all the drum beats though connected to the Beat Buddy??? I was thinking of a list of staff symbols or those so I can remember all that too.

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cambeezy

Joined: Jun 26, 2007
Posts: 399
Cleveland, Ohio
United States

Posted on Jun 09 2019 08:03 PM

Squid wrote:

You can view & hear three video recordings of live performances where I used the Beat Buddy for surf beats and appropriate fills at the beginning of this SG101 thread:
https://surfguitar101.com/forums/topic/31760/?page=1

Nice work Squid! Yeah, I didn't mean to side step your above thread -- just thought it might be good to target the Beatbuddy in the post title. I hope to add vids of my duo w/BB to your thread ...once we get going.

For each song I had selected the beat patterns, fills, title, and BPM long before the performance. Our set list was in the Beat Buddy, and we simply clicked through the Beat Buddy as we went through our set.

Once I figured out the BB Manager, it was full speed ahead using this awesome pedal for band use. Pretty much just a matter of punching in a setlist.

Whelp, from the looks of things, I guess there's only three of us using a BB on this forum. Probably not much of a quorum for Groovemonkey to develop surf beats. I don't need the exact drum pattern used in the original recordings for the songs we cover anyway

So have you guys tried any other of the beats or drum sets from Singular Sound? I've added the Standard Pro and Vintage Ludwig drum sets and Drums with Percussion beats. I've incorporated different drum sets and beats into our setlist. It's all good!

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Squid

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Posted on Jun 09 2019 09:33 PM

cambeezy wrote:

So have you guys tried any other of the beats or drum sets from Singular Sound? I've added the Standard Pro and Vintage Ludwig drum sets and Drums with Percussion beats. I've incorporated different drum sets and beats into our setlist. It's all good!

I've been using the Beat Buddy for five years now! I was surprised to find it's been that long. I remember adding another drum set they offered free for a limited time, perhaps four years ago. I don't remember much more than that about it. I haven't paid attention to switching drum sets in the setlist, I'm trying to coast on what I set up in the first couple of years I used the Beat Buddy, including collecting many MIDI drum patterns and fills for it.

I've been more involved in writing and recording new songs, developing fingerstyle, modifying guitars, and adjusting multi-effects pedals. I know that Beat Buddy published updated software, but I haven't even downloaded it.

I hope to make a video of how I decreased effort in using the Beat Buddy by adding a foot platform to it. I don't need to even look at the Beat Buddy while playing a song.

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Surfing_Sam_61

Joined: Jan 15, 2019
Posts: 1515

Posted on Jun 11 2019 02:04 PM

I see Singular Sound has a forum for the Beat Buddy pedal
http://forum.mybeatbuddy.com/index.php?forums/general-discussion.11/

They also now have a lower cost drum pedal for about half price from the original and even that one is a lower price as well since I bought mine. The new one looks pretty basic and not as large either etc.

I found this link on the above form site called Grove Scribe
https://www.mikeslessons.com/groove/?TimeSig=4/4&Div=16&Tempo=80&Measures=1&H=|---xxxxxxxxxxxxx|&S=|-------O-------O|&K=|---o-------o----|

You can click on the Hi hat - Snare - Bass drum buttons to change the staff music and then play it to see how it sounds, not sure if its midi or not or could be used to create midi songs like a drum machine or use with the beat buddy somehow - can this be used to make your own drum tracks ?????

Or is there something better out there to use- anybody know?

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Surf_Skater Joined: Sep 06, 2012 Posts: 1300 Lawrenceville , GA	Posted on Jun 05 2019 07:33 PM Didn't Drumsdick add some drum tracks to the downloads section? They may be able to sample those. I know it's cliche, but we could just point them in the direction of the Pulp fiction soundtrack. Top
Squid Joined: Aug 22, 2010 Posts: 1018 Portland, Oregon with Insanitizers	Posted on Jun 06 2019 12:39 AM Besides my originals, songs I use the Beat Buddy for at gigs include: Pipeline Telstar Apache Geronimo Man of Mystery Walk Don't Run Diamond Head Hernando's Hideaway Sukiyaki El Choclo the Munsters Wheels Dark Eyes Journey to the Stars Surf Rider Secret Agent Man California Dreamin' Out of Limits Lonely Bull Misirlou-Hava Nagila Mashup Karelia Valot (Lights) — Insanitizers! http://www.insanitizers.com Top
cambeezy Joined: Jun 26, 2007 Posts: 399 Cleveland, Ohio	Posted on Jun 08 2019 09:46 PM Thanks for the input, guys. I forwarded a link to this thread to Russ at Groovemonkee, so maybe he'll weigh in on surf beats. Top
Surfing_Sam_61 Joined: Jan 15, 2019 Posts: 1515	Posted on Jun 09 2019 02:40 PM Yeah Cambeezy I was playing along to a lot of songs on the various volumes Lost Legends of The Surf Guitar series (4 CD's) and most songs on there only has the Surf Beat a.k.a. The Lindy Beat I think that might be the only main pattern needed for a vast majority of midi songs for surf. Dunno I think we could fake our way through with just this one pattern with a few other 50's style patterns as well Last edited: Jun 09, 2019 14:46:40 Top
Squid Joined: Aug 22, 2010 Posts: 1018 Portland, Oregon with Insanitizers	Posted on Jun 09 2019 05:44 PM You can view & hear three video recordings of live performances where I used the Beat Buddy for surf beats and appropriate fills at the beginning of this SG101 thread: https://surfguitar101.com/forums/topic/31760/?page=1 Although my right foot is not visible in the videos you can tell when I press the Beat Buddy pedal by movements of my body. For each song I had selected the beat patterns, fills, title, and BPM long before the performance. Our set list was in the Beat Buddy, and we simply clicked through the Beat Buddy as we went through our set. I could have titled the thread "Beat Buddy Live Performances of Surf Guitar" or "Super Surfy Spring Reverb and Delay Zoom G1Xon pedal" because these recordings illustrate these as well as illustrating what a duo can sound like. — Insanitizers! http://www.insanitizers.com Last edited: Jun 09, 2019 17:44:25 Top
Surfing_Sam_61 Joined: Jan 15, 2019 Posts: 1515	Posted on Jun 09 2019 07:28 PM Yeah that sounds good Squid The only thing I can see about these drum pedals is it has relatively perfect time - where a real drummer pulls on the beat a bit and can play flexible time on the fly when needed. I can change the tempo etc but your playing and kicking a pedal at the same time which makes it much harder perform I think. Yet at the same time I like the total control a solo opportunity and drum pedal like this provides. Been working on everything but my Surf solo band the last two weeks, so my Surf Guitar career skill declined a bit. Have not had much time to mess with the Beat Buddy either. Much like everything else I have it takes me a long while to learn and remember all the techniques and information in the manuals, some I have had for years and never got around to it yet. So much to do and so little time, what's new? Myself I like the idea of just using the Surf Beat if I can find it on the oldies section of the SD card and just winging it pushing pedals on the fly instead of a whole song midi file etc....You can do song mash-ups that way and play different sets etc and versions of songs. I play that way anyway, even when I play along to songs I go into outer space jamming and trying different stuff on most songs/ The only song I usually play like a record is Walk Don't Run and even then alternate between the 64 version and the earlier one just because I never seem to be able to think of a different way to perform that tune. But there are a lot of A minor type songs that you can mash-up on the fly as well with either version or at least that's my idea. I seem to have about a 30 song buffer brain in my head from memory and then have to write a down set list for all the other songs I know or I can't even think of the name of the songs, but soon as I see the name I can remember the tune, not sure if I can remember all the drum beats though connected to the Beat Buddy??? I was thinking of a list of staff symbols or those so I can remember all that too. Last edited: Jun 09, 2019 19:48:05 Top
cambeezy Joined: Jun 26, 2007 Posts: 399 Cleveland, Ohio	Posted on Jun 09 2019 08:03 PM Squid wrote: You can view & hear three video recordings of live performances where I used the Beat Buddy for surf beats and appropriate fills at the beginning of this SG101 thread: https://surfguitar101.com/forums/topic/31760/?page=1 Nice work Squid! Yeah, I didn't mean to side step your above thread -- just thought it might be good to target the Beatbuddy in the post title. I hope to add vids of my duo w/BB to your thread ...once we get going. For each song I had selected the beat patterns, fills, title, and BPM long before the performance. Our set list was in the Beat Buddy, and we simply clicked through the Beat Buddy as we went through our set. Once I figured out the BB Manager, it was full speed ahead using this awesome pedal for band use. Pretty much just a matter of punching in a setlist. Whelp, from the looks of things, I guess there's only three of us using a BB on this forum. Probably not much of a quorum for Groovemonkey to develop surf beats. I don't need the exact drum pattern used in the original recordings for the songs we cover anyway So have you guys tried any other of the beats or drum sets from Singular Sound? I've added the Standard Pro and Vintage Ludwig drum sets and Drums with Percussion beats. I've incorporated different drum sets and beats into our setlist. It's all good! Top
Squid Joined: Aug 22, 2010 Posts: 1018 Portland, Oregon with Insanitizers	Posted on Jun 09 2019 09:33 PM cambeezy wrote: So have you guys tried any other of the beats or drum sets from Singular Sound? I've added the Standard Pro and Vintage Ludwig drum sets and Drums with Percussion beats. I've incorporated different drum sets and beats into our setlist. It's all good! I've been using the Beat Buddy for five years now! I was surprised to find it's been that long. I remember adding another drum set they offered free for a limited time, perhaps four years ago. I don't remember much more than that about it. I haven't paid attention to switching drum sets in the setlist, I'm trying to coast on what I set up in the first couple of years I used the Beat Buddy, including collecting many MIDI drum patterns and fills for it. I've been more involved in writing and recording new songs, developing fingerstyle, modifying guitars, and adjusting multi-effects pedals. I know that Beat Buddy published updated software, but I haven't even downloaded it. I hope to make a video of how I decreased effort in using the Beat Buddy by adding a foot platform to it. I don't need to even look at the Beat Buddy while playing a song. — Insanitizers! http://www.insanitizers.com Last edited: Jun 09, 2019 21:36:36 Top
Surfing_Sam_61 Joined: Jan 15, 2019 Posts: 1515	Posted on Jun 11 2019 02:04 PM I see Singular Sound has a forum for the Beat Buddy pedal http://forum.mybeatbuddy.com/index.php?forums/general-discussion.11/ They also now have a lower cost drum pedal for about half price from the original and even that one is a lower price as well since I bought mine. The new one looks pretty basic and not as large either etc. I found this link on the above form site called Grove Scribe https://www.mikeslessons.com/groove/?TimeSig=4/4&Div=16&Tempo=80&Measures=1&H=\|---xxxxxxxxxxxxx\|&S=\|-------O-------O\|&K=\|---o-------o----\| You can click on the Hi hat - Snare - Bass drum buttons to change the staff music and then play it to see how it sounds, not sure if its midi or not or could be used to create midi songs like a drum machine or use with the beat buddy somehow - can this be used to make your own drum tracks ????? Or is there something better out there to use- anybody know? Last edited: Jun 11, 2019 14:20:30 Top

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