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J Mascis Purple Sparkle Jazzmaster
Joined: Apr 05, 2006 Posts: 1547 Bethlehem, GA 
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Posted on Jul 28 2007 05:01 PM
Well, about the only thing about it that appeals to me is the gold anodized pickguard. Different strokes for different folks, I guess. —Jack Booth The Mariners (1964-68, 1996-2005) |
Joined: Sep 22, 2006 Posts: 234 |
Posted on Jul 29 2007 01:12 AM
well J Mascis doesnt play surf but i dont know a surf musician that plays with as much trem as mascis. Hes like Neil Young on speed, his hand is constantlyworking the trem when he plays. Ive seen the man play and he thrashes his guitar good thats why i have no doubt on the functuality of the bridge. |
Joined: Feb 23, 2007 Posts: 1650 Santa Rosa, CA
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Posted on Jul 29 2007 07:28 PM
The fit and finish on the Fender MIJ models is quite good...where they come up short is the electronics..pups/jack/pots/wiring...many (me included) have upgraded the MIJ models with great results. Question now is ..unless you really want the finish and features? on this model, why not just buy an AV... — |
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Joined: Sep 22, 2006 Posts: 234 |
Posted on Jul 29 2007 07:48 PM
so are the pups no good in the mascis guitar or the electronics because its cij? I have a cij jazzmaster and i definetly heard the difference between the avri and mine, couldnt see the difference in build quality though. Anyway whats the deal with the pups and electronics on the mascis model, are they not as good as the avri. |
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Joined: Feb 23, 2007 Posts: 1650 Santa Rosa, CA
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Posted on Jul 29 2007 08:01 PM
The diference in the electronics comes down to the cost to produce factor. In the 80's when the first of the MIJ strats and teles hit the US the fit and finish and in particular the shape of the necks were a cut above what was being built at home. Fender's plan was to have these guitars built offshore so that they could be sold for less and give them (Fender) models that they could marked at a lower price point to compete with other makers who were importing from overseas. Where they (and still do) cut corners is with the internals of these guitars. The exception are some models that have Texas Specials or other CS pups stock...one other spot that is a bit week on the MIJ models are the fret jobs..cheap wire sometimes not the best finish. I've sent two MIJ Fenders to Rene' Martinez for a fret and nut job...he does fab work. — |
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Joined: Mar 06, 2007 Posts: 524 Bay City (Michigan) |
Posted on Jul 30 2007 12:08 AM
Maybe on his actual guitar. I know for a fact that many companies use cheaper parts on many artist model guitars. —I am super sweet |
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Joined: Sep 22, 2006 Posts: 234 |
Posted on Jul 30 2007 04:02 PM
Are the vintage reissue pups no good on this guitar? I like the mods like reinforced trem arm and satin finish neck instead of poly but im curious to what you guys think of the electronics especially the pups. |
Joined: Jun 14, 2006 Posts: 203
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Posted on Jul 30 2007 05:08 PM
The "break point" on many tune-o-matic style saddles is not right in the middle (front-to-back). So if you can't get enough range of adjustment to set the intonation with the saddle in its stock orientation, sometimes you can go a bit further by flipping the saddle around. But it shouldn't be necessary if the bridge posts are positioned right, giving the bridge the correct overall slant. |
Joined: Feb 26, 2006 Posts: 12159 Seattle
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Posted on Jul 30 2007 05:14 PM
Satin finish is still going to be poly. I wouldn't call them vintage reissue pickups. They are going to be the uber crappy CIJ Jazz pickups. Who knows what reinforced trem arm means. CIJ electronics and such really suck. If I were to ever buy another CIJ I'd gut the guitar and get all american parts in there. Then you'd have a great guitar. |
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Joined: Feb 23, 2007 Posts: 1650 Santa Rosa, CA
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Posted on Jul 30 2007 05:25 PM
Yep..Tank Kicker is right...best off replacing the pups etc..you'll get a much better sound and the axe will be more roadworthy.....those of us who "cut our chops" on St George/Kent etc guitars can only laugh now at what a really good guitar +/- you can get now days for not too much bread... — |
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Joined: Sep 22, 2006 Posts: 234 |
Posted on Jul 30 2007 05:32 PM
thanks for the input. i was on the fender site and i couldnt figure out if these pups that mascic requested were the same as avri or the cij. now i know. |
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Joined: Feb 26, 2006 Posts: 133 La Playa, Mexico
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Posted on Aug 02 2007 05:46 PM
I played one of these the other day ... it looks really nice, sounds just like all the CIJs - brighter and more Strat-like than the AVRI Jazz. Nice finish, the gold pick guard is a nice touch. Of course, the trem arm fell off onto the floor (why doesn't Fender just make a threaded arm? The collet with the arm is stoopid!) The arm seemed just as wimpy as any MIJ/CIJ. Sounded real good with new strings. However, for the money, its not a far cry from an AVRI, which is better. And the Tune-O-Matic bridge is fixed, no movement. But, the strings can be bent without jumping saddles - I dont think it is a huge disadvantage. Overall, tho, nothing to rush to your Fender store to buy. |
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Joined: Feb 26, 2006 Posts: 12159 Seattle
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Posted on Aug 02 2007 06:00 PM
I happen to think the collet is a better system than a threaded arm. AV collets are pretty great. The only problem is they are brittle. CIJ collets such and don't really work because there is nothing to catch on for the arm. I broke off three teeth on my AV collet, so it doesn't work anymore. My Jazzmaster collet is amazing after 35 years. Doesn't flop if you don't want it too yet it isn't too stiff. |
Joined: Mar 15, 2006 Posts: 1487 San Francisco
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Posted on Aug 03 2007 03:03 AM
This is me keeping my mouth shut....
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Joined: Feb 26, 2006 Posts: 12159 Seattle
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Posted on Aug 03 2007 08:29 AM
Ha! It's all true Bill. You just gotta know how to handle a stick. |
Joined: May 01, 2007 Posts: 20 Wisconsin |
Posted on Aug 03 2007 11:43 AM
I have been looking at getting one of the Jagmasters and putting some Mean 90's in it. Not certian about how I feel about that short scale neck, but the price is right! |
Joined: Feb 25, 2006 Posts: 19335 Des Moines, Iowa, USA
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Posted on Aug 03 2007 02:58 PM
The newer Jagmasters actually have a Strat (25.5") scale. Not much "Jag" left.... —Site dude - S3 Agent #202 "It starts... when it begins" -- Ralf Kilauea |
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