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josheboy

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Twin Cities, MN
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Posted on Aug 20 2018 12:50 PM

Brian wrote:

Mike75 wrote:

I’m no fan of NSSR for obvious reasons,

This is completely not obvious to me...?

but there are some good people involved. I can offer places for shows on www.surfrockradio.com and our sister station www.surfmusicradio.com

However the elitism that was apparent within NSSR must end.

There were little tiffs in some of the surf music groups on Facebook. Typical online nonsense. Apparently some feelings got hurt.

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josheboy

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Posted on Aug 20 2018 01:11 PM

As for Niels and NSSR, it is disappointing but understandable.

Since surf music isn't exactly a lucrative genre, ultimately, the scene is primarily volunteer based. When the rest of life gets in the way of volunteering, its up to others to pull the weight.

NSSR can survive. I think there is enough DJ and Listener love for it. But I think the leadership needs to be de-centralized so that when Niels gets busy, others can step in very easily. The technical service itself needs to be more automated so it doesn't require so many manual tasks from leadership/administrators. And as Brian mentioned, a succession plan needs to be developed so that the service can be maintained in the event of any major contingencies.

And of course, all of that requires more effort up front by Niels, and more volunteers by the end.

I hope things can work out. And if not, I hope that something new and exciting will rise from the ashes.

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ElMonstroPorFavor

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Posted on Aug 20 2018 01:35 PM

I think the "obvious reason" Mike mentioned is because he runs surfrockradio.com, a very capable direct competitor.

Can't speak to the elitism comment.

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Brian

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Posted on Aug 20 2018 02:09 PM

ElMonstroPorFavor wrote:

I think the "obvious reason" Mike mentioned is because he runs surfrockradio.com, a very capable direct competitor.

"Competitor"? I wasn't aware playing surf music on the internet was a competition. No one is getting paid here or stealing artists / revenue from the other.

Anyway, I don't want to derail this thread with some ax grinding.

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ElMonstroPorFavor

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Posted on Aug 20 2018 02:26 PM

Totally agree, but I guess you could argue that it's a limited audience that they're competing for the attention of. In a way my radio show is a smaller competitor of both but I don't see it that way (and since Mike sends me promos from his label, I don't think he does either).

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LakeEffectReverb

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Posted on Aug 20 2018 04:32 PM

Being a volunteer college radio programmer, I can sympathize with the problem here. Job status, free time, disposable income, and family obligations can vary greatly from year to year. I enjoy a lot of the online surf programming and hope it can continue. I don't take it for granted, because any survey of a college radio station staff meeting would reveal a stunning amount of gray hair.
(Yes, I'm listening to "Storm Surge of Reverb" right now, Hunter.)

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ElMonstroPorFavor

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Posted on Aug 20 2018 05:09 PM

Ha thanks! In the true spirit of this thread, my flow got interrupted a few times because I had to take a screwdriver to the turntable

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djangodeadman

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Brighton UK
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Posted on Aug 22 2018 04:46 AM

djangodeadman wrote:

Mike75 wrote:

I’m no fan of NSSR for obvious reasons, but there are some good people involved. I can offer places for shows on www.surfrockradio.com and our sister station www.surfmusicradio.com

However the elitism that was apparent within NSSR must end.

Which elitism would that be?

No reply?

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Noel

Joined: Mar 15, 2011
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Posted on Aug 22 2018 09:13 AM

All the best to Niels and his DJs. Thanks for all the great music!

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josheboy Joined: Mar 13, 2009 Posts: 2365 Twin Cities, MN	Posted on Aug 20 2018 12:50 PM Brian wrote: Mike75 wrote: I’m no fan of NSSR for obvious reasons, This is completely not obvious to me...? but there are some good people involved. I can offer places for shows on www.surfrockradio.com and our sister station www.surfmusicradio.com However the elitism that was apparent within NSSR must end. There were little tiffs in some of the surf music groups on Facebook. Typical online nonsense. Apparently some feelings got hurt. Top
josheboy Joined: Mar 13, 2009 Posts: 2365 Twin Cities, MN	Posted on Aug 20 2018 01:11 PM As for Niels and NSSR, it is disappointing but understandable. Since surf music isn't exactly a lucrative genre, ultimately, the scene is primarily volunteer based. When the rest of life gets in the way of volunteering, its up to others to pull the weight. NSSR can survive. I think there is enough DJ and Listener love for it. But I think the leadership needs to be de-centralized so that when Niels gets busy, others can step in very easily. The technical service itself needs to be more automated so it doesn't require so many manual tasks from leadership/administrators. And as Brian mentioned, a succession plan needs to be developed so that the service can be maintained in the event of any major contingencies. And of course, all of that requires more effort up front by Niels, and more volunteers by the end. I hope things can work out. And if not, I hope that something new and exciting will rise from the ashes. Top
ElMonstroPorFavor Joined: Sep 01, 2006 Posts: 2718 New Orleans, LA	Posted on Aug 20 2018 01:35 PM I think the "obvious reason" Mike mentioned is because he runs surfrockradio.com, a very capable direct competitor. Can't speak to the elitism comment. — Storm Surge of Reverb: Surf & Instro Radio Top
Brian Joined: Feb 25, 2006 Posts: 19266 Des Moines, Iowa, USA	Posted on Aug 20 2018 02:09 PM ElMonstroPorFavor wrote: I think the "obvious reason" Mike mentioned is because he runs surfrockradio.com, a very capable direct competitor. "Competitor"? I wasn't aware playing surf music on the internet was a competition. No one is getting paid here or stealing artists / revenue from the other. Anyway, I don't want to derail this thread with some ax grinding. — Site dude - S3 Agent #202 Need help with the site? SG101 FAQ - Send me a private message - Email me "It starts... when it begins" -- Ralf Kilauea Top
ElMonstroPorFavor Joined: Sep 01, 2006 Posts: 2718 New Orleans, LA	Posted on Aug 20 2018 02:26 PM Totally agree, but I guess you could argue that it's a limited audience that they're competing for the attention of. In a way my radio show is a smaller competitor of both but I don't see it that way (and since Mike sends me promos from his label, I don't think he does either). — Storm Surge of Reverb: Surf & Instro Radio Top
LakeEffectReverb Joined: Sep 17, 2017 Posts: 26	Posted on Aug 20 2018 04:32 PM Being a volunteer college radio programmer, I can sympathize with the problem here. Job status, free time, disposable income, and family obligations can vary greatly from year to year. I enjoy a lot of the online surf programming and hope it can continue. I don't take it for granted, because any survey of a college radio station staff meeting would reveal a stunning amount of gray hair. (Yes, I'm listening to "Storm Surge of Reverb" right now, Hunter.) Top
ElMonstroPorFavor Joined: Sep 01, 2006 Posts: 2718 New Orleans, LA	Posted on Aug 20 2018 05:09 PM Ha thanks! In the true spirit of this thread, my flow got interrupted a few times because I had to take a screwdriver to the turntable — Storm Surge of Reverb: Surf & Instro Radio Top
djangodeadman Joined: Jan 25, 2007 Posts: 1566 Brighton UK	Posted on Aug 22 2018 04:46 AM djangodeadman wrote: Mike75 wrote: I’m no fan of NSSR for obvious reasons, but there are some good people involved. I can offer places for shows on www.surfrockradio.com and our sister station www.surfmusicradio.com However the elitism that was apparent within NSSR must end. Which elitism would that be? No reply? — Los Fantasticos Top
Noel Joined: Mar 15, 2011 Posts: 8528 Back in Piitsburgh, Pennsylvania, where I grew up.	Posted on Aug 22 2018 09:13 AM All the best to Niels and his DJs. Thanks for all the great music! — This is Noel. Reverb's at maximum an' I'm givin' 'er all she's got. Top

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