ICantSurf
Joined: Dec 05, 2017
Posts: 3
|

Posted on May 31 2018 03:26 PM
Hey all,
I’ve got a Jaguar playing through a Showman amp, and it sounds fantastic, but once in a while I want a little bit of overdrive sound. Very mild with very little compression that keeps the Showman doing its thing. Some pedals I’ve tried lately just kill the dynamics. I want a very light overdrive. Any advice? Thanks!!
|
Tqi
Joined: Dec 07, 2014
Posts: 1222
|

Posted on May 31 2018 05:03 PM
-
Last edited: Feb 02, 2024 14:02:16
|
WaimeaBay
Joined: Jul 05, 2006
Posts: 969
|

Posted on May 31 2018 05:15 PM
Hello sir,
I have run a jaguar through a Fender Custom 15 Twin Reverb (very similar to a Fender Blackface Showman) with a EHX Soul Food with nice tonal success. My soul food is modded, but I honestly don't think that is necessary. It is a transparent overdrive, which is what I believe you are looking for.
Have you tried that pedal yet?
WB
|
JObeast
Joined: Jul 24, 2012
Posts: 2762
Finknabad, Squinkistan
|

Posted on May 31 2018 06:42 PM
Best overdrive is the amp itself fairly cranked. To accomplish this without hearing loss, I've discovered the best solution, albeit a pricey one, is an attenuator between the amp output and the speaker array. I got a Weber Mass Attenuator for something like $150 used and I'm happiest I've ever been with amp tones, after decades of pedals.
— Squink Out!
|
Chippertheripper
Joined: Mar 11, 2011
Posts: 819
Semass
|

Posted on May 31 2018 06:48 PM
wampler tumnus (the little one) is my favorite overdrive. Hands down the best I've played.
Last edited: May 31, 2018 18:48:44
|
Big_Swell_Drifter
Joined: Apr 09, 2018
Posts: 33
Sydney
|

Posted on May 31 2018 06:53 PM
Hey ICantSurf
If you're prepared to go on a waiting list the Analogman King of Tone is a great sounding pedal that always stands up in a band situation, is transparent, and very dynamic. The Fulltone OCD also isn't too bad - it has good dynamics too but can get a little lost in the mix at times (I use it for higher gain settings so that's probably why). And I just acquired a Timmy pedal (which I bought specifically to go on my instro pedal board) that I haven't really had much of a chance to give a good work out yet but it certainly sounds like it has heaps of potential. It seems like the most transparent of the three but haven't had a chance to give it a work out in a band situation - doesn't seems quite as dynamic as the KOT. I also have an old TS9 but these will compress you sound and kill your bottom end unless you get one modded.
As Tqi suggests, preamps can be a good option too.
So many more options now than there was 20-30 years ago.
— https://www.facebook.com/thebigswelldrifters/
https://thebigswelldrifters.bandcamp.com
https://soundcloud.com/thebigswelldrifters
https://www.reverbnation.com/thebigswelldrifters1
Last edited: May 31, 2018 18:54:29
|
WoodyJ
Joined: Apr 05, 2006
Posts: 1547
Bethlehem, GA
|

Posted on May 31 2018 08:00 PM
A Fulltone OCD or Ibanez Tube Screamer will get you where you want to be.
— Jack Booth
(aka WoodyJ)
The Mariners (1964-68, 1996-2005)
The Hula Hounds (1996-current)
The X-Rays (1997-2004)
The Surge! (2004, 2011-2012)
Various non-surf bands that actually made money (1978-1990)
|
RobbieReverb
Joined: Feb 28, 2006
Posts: 2384
San Jose, Ca.
|

Posted on Jun 01 2018 01:19 AM
I really like the EHX Soul Food, which, like the Wampler Tumnus is a Klon clone. I had JHS do their mod to my Soul Food pedal, and it's great. But truth be told, I find myself using the original (non-modded) setting more than the other settings. Unmodded, it's about the best bang for the buck out there at about $80.00. Even with the mod, it's not bad, at +/- $135.00.
There's a lot of love on this forum, for Nocturne's Atomic Brain and Dyno Brain pedals, and for Xotic EP booster. These pedals sound great!
— Bob
Last edited: Jun 01, 2018 01:19:48
|
Samurai
Joined: Mar 14, 2006
Posts: 2283
Kiev, Ukraine
|

Posted on Jun 01 2018 03:38 AM
Ep Booster to push the amp and add some nice coloring
OCD to add some grit, works great with Jaguar

— Waikiki Makaki surf-rock band from Ukraine
https://linktr.ee/waikikimakaki
Lost Diver
https://lostdiver.bandcamp.com
https://soundcloud.com/vitaly-yakushin
|
Tqi
Joined: Dec 07, 2014
Posts: 1222
|

Posted on Jun 01 2018 06:28 AM
-
Last edited: Feb 02, 2024 14:02:24
|
crumble
Joined: Sep 09, 2008
Posts: 3158
Guildford England
|

Posted on Jun 01 2018 07:18 AM
Andertons UK had a semi blindfold overdrive pedal test whereby they fooled a known guitarist into thinking he was testing several different makes when actually it was just one pedal at various settings.
|
Tangentor_7
Joined: Feb 01, 2017
Posts: 45
Landlocked W. Central Florida
|

Posted on Jun 01 2018 09:08 AM
It's probably a little premature to recommend this one, as I just bought it last evening and have only tried it twice... but I hoped to push my reverb tank with a little more treble content, and possibly some subtle overdrive, with the Hungry Robot [lg] (Low Gain) pedal.
http://www.hungryrobotpedals.com/the-hungry-robot
Aside from being a delectable surf green, it specializes in a lower range of transparent gain, which is further (very) customizable by six dip switches inside. In my tests so far, the overdrive flavor absolutely lets the character of my guitars shine through, amplified very pleasantly.
First I tried it without messing with the dip switches, and loved the results, only to find when cracking it open that it was on the 'wrong' setting for my tastes. There is a combination called "Chimey EL84" that is much more what I had in mind. I haven't messed with any of the other dipswitch suggestions yet.
In my brief test, just using the Topanga reverb pedal instead of a real tank, it absolutely did 'activate' more drip, aside from its very viable and musical overdrive possibilities.
Last edited: Jun 01, 2018 09:13:22
|
Agent71857
Joined: Apr 15, 2014
Posts: 164
Pittsburgh, Pa
|

Posted on Jun 01 2018 09:31 AM

I really dig the xotic ac+. It gives me exactly what I want, which is my guitar sound but just a little more. I also really like having the two flavors of gain. The blue side is my regular slightly dirty tone. The red for leads, and both together for insane Link Wray amp about to explode mayhem. If you think about it this way.... off, blue, red, both... it can turn your one channel amp into a four channel beast. That’s a lot of flexibility out of one pedal. I don’t work for xotic. Just been playing for forty years and haven’t been as happy with my tone as I am right now.
— www.instagram.com/_the.outer.limits_
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCX7iIpcAvL8In2HY9I7QoPw
www.theouterlimits.bandcamp.com
www.facebook.com/vertigogo.surf
|
CrazyAces
Joined: Jul 31, 2012
Posts: 4053
Nashville, TN.
|

Posted on Jun 01 2018 10:24 AM
I'll thrown in (once again) the Zoom MS-50.
With the latest software update (3.0) you get an outstanding RC Booster, a Klon, really good Compressors that can be used to push an amp, Boosters, and other actual overdrives plus great delays, reverbs, tuner, tremolo...
All for $99.00
I've heard/played almost all of the above suggestions and they all could work great depending on what an individual is looking for but I continue to be amazed by this little do all pedal and it's sonic capabilities.
FWIW, five or six years ago I would have never given this product a second look, I considered the Zoom products as made for the amateur market but this pedal and some of their other latest offerings have made me reconsider.
Cheers,
Jeff
— http://www.facebook.com/CrazyAcesMusic
http://www.youtube.com/user/crazyacesrock
http://www.reverbnation.com/crazyacesmusic
Last edited: Jun 01, 2018 10:35:13
|
crumble
Joined: Sep 09, 2008
Posts: 3158
Guildford England
|

Posted on Jun 01 2018 11:21 AM
+1 on the Zoom but can you trust it for live performance. It's fiddly to setup and a guitar player really needs something he can switch no/off with little use of the brain.
|
Squid
Joined: Aug 22, 2010
Posts: 1019
Portland, Oregon with Insanitizers
|

Posted on Jun 01 2018 12:07 PM
crumble wrote:
+1 on the Zoom but can you trust it for live performance. It's fiddly to setup and a guitar player really needs something he can switch no/off with little use of the brain.
The Zoom G1Xon worked perfectly for live performances, after getting used to it during rehearsals. You have to learn the pitfalls of your device. On the G1Xon I found that I have to deliberately keep cables--and my feet-- away from the patch up and down pedals while playing.
Methods, knobs and pedals to control the Zoom MS-50 differ from the Zoom G1Xon, so the cautions differ, and so does the flexibility. Many of the effects used by the patches have the same names on the MS-50 and G1Xon devices, and I suppose they sound similar.
Finally, I found some sweet overdrive tones on the Zoom G1Xon. The sweetness depends greatly on the guitar pickup, as it should.
— Insanitizers! http://www.insanitizers.com
Last edited: Jun 01, 2018 12:15:27
|
Tangentor_7
Joined: Feb 01, 2017
Posts: 45
Landlocked W. Central Florida
|

Posted on Jun 01 2018 12:19 PM
+1 on both the MS-50G and G1on varieties of Zoom pedals for guitar. Like CrazyAces, I wouldn't have ever taken them seriously, but a tip from a guitar store employee (that doesn't even stock Zoom products) led me to order an MS-50G, only to be amazed by its creative and sonic potential. It was so fun tweaking individual effects, then stacking them and playing with their order – and the results were more realistic than I'd have ever expected.
I eventually picked up the bass and guitar versions of the MS-series compact pedals, as well as the B1Xon and (expression pedal-less) G1on that came slightly later.
To my ears, after extensive tests, the larger-enclosure B1Xon and G1on pedals have SLIGHTLY better sounds, perhaps from a different processor, even on effect patches that are common to both series.
|
Chippertheripper
Joined: Mar 11, 2011
Posts: 819
Semass
|

Posted on Jun 01 2018 12:28 PM
RobbieReverb wrote:
I really like the EHX Soul Food, which, like the Wampler Tumnus is a Klon clone. I had JHS do their mod to my Soul Food pedal, and it's great. But truth be told, I find myself using the original (non-modded) setting more than the other settings. Unmodded, it's about the best bang for the buck out there at about $80.00. Even with the mod, it's not bad, at +/- $135.00.
There's a lot of love on this forum, for Nocturne's Atomic Brain and Dyno Brain pedals, and for Xotic EP booster. These pedals sound great!
there's a lot more to the tumnus than just being a klone. Sure, it does the clean boost thing as anything else in the realm, but it's much better as a drive than the klon/klones ever thought of being. I'd like to get my mitts on a soup'd up SF. the regular is pretty decent, no doubt, but I generally run my OD's with a little gain, and not just as a boost.
that said, the soul food really is marketing genius, it's pretty much a homerun no matter how you shake it.
|
revmike
Joined: Feb 26, 2006
Posts: 3852
North Atlantic
|

Posted on Jun 01 2018 01:26 PM
I used the Soul Food for a while, and really liked it, but have since replaced it with a Diamond Boost EQ, and am even happier with my sound. I find I can get the speaker to overdrive as much or as little as I need depending on my settings. Full disclosure- I do know the owner/designer/builder of Diamond Pedals, and they are made here in Nova Scotia.
http://www.diamondpedals.com/products/boost-eq/
Bang for the buck it is hard to beat the SF.
Rev
— Canadian Surf
http://www.urbansurfkings.com/
|
Chippertheripper
Joined: Mar 11, 2011
Posts: 819
Semass
|

Posted on Jun 01 2018 01:41 PM
I'm a huge fan of the Diamond Memory Lane jr. It's been my only delay for quite some time. Another topic, I know, but since we're giving shout outs...
|