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Joined: Feb 27, 2006 Posts: 25560 Anaheim(So.Cal.)U.S.A. |
Was this just a south east thing, or was there any part of it that was west coast, arizona, Texas? Etc? —Jeff(bigtikidude) |
Joined: Jul 14, 2015 Posts: 478 Near Atlanta, GA |
Thank you, Ferenc for sharing. Jamie is right, this is a treasure. John from the The Atomic Teen Idols, thanks for sharing your Southern Surf Syndicate ID card. That's a priceless artifact. If you are ever the victim of a break in and that's the only thing missing, well, it wasn't me. Rip's journal reminds me of the hallucinogenic writing of Hunter S. Thompson. It may not be exactly what happened, but, in every way that matters, every word is true. I wasn't there at all for any of that tour. Didn't even know about until this thread, but thanks to Rip's journal and Ivan's pictures, I'll always remember it. And later on, when the dementia kicks in, I'll swear I was there. "...I remember playing skeet golf on Lookout Mountain with Rip and Big Woody..." —-Tim |
Joined: Feb 27, 2006 Posts: 2063 Virginia, USA |
The t-shirt includes Dallas and Houston but that seems to be about as far west as it went. Can't believe this whole thing passed me by. bigtikidude wrote: — Paul |
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Here is the Neptuna's Set fro Surfari USA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjBUliQne6g I do need your help! I would like to know the name the second song! Last edited: May 13, 2018 19:48:05 |
Joined: Feb 25, 2006 Posts: 19286 Des Moines, Iowa, USA |
Thanks for the photos Ivan... everyone looks so young! I had never seen that Volcanos picture before. Wild!!! —Site dude - S3 Agent #202 "It starts... when it begins" -- Ralf Kilauea |
Joined: Feb 25, 2006 Posts: 19286 Des Moines, Iowa, USA |
So as I recall, no one every refers to this tour without the prefix "ill-fated". How long did it actually go before it fell apart? —Site dude - S3 Agent #202 "It starts... when it begins" -- Ralf Kilauea |
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Amazing thread. Great read, and great memories shared there! Thanks |
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It was an odd tour in that different bands started in different cities. J&TNs first date was on the 21st in Atlanta at the Variety Playhouse. I think it was at that show where the term "ill-fated" was defined. Others could provide more color, but the promoter was not pleased that the turnout that night wasn't all that great. So, he cancelled the rest of the tour, not wanting to lose more money. Mike Palm and a couple of others (Rip probably) got into a heated argument with the promoter in the Variety Playhouse office after the show. Some of the bands packed up and went home. J&TNs had our return plane tickets for a few days later, so we decided to go ahead and play the dates we had signed up for, knowing we wouldn't get paid anything. We got the promoter to at least rent us a van for the next few days. We all laughed about it afterwards (but certainly not at the time). —www.johnblair.us Last edited: May 14, 2018 10:52:33 |
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Ooooof —Jeff(bigtikidude) |
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I'm not surprised J&TNR finished those dates. Not that anyone likes not getting paid, but from Rip wrote about the spirit of sharing equipment and camaraderie it seems to still be the attitude that describes the scene today, and a noticeable lack of ego. Good on you guys! |
Joined: Feb 27, 2006 Posts: 10331 southern Michigan |
John wrote:
John, that's not quite right. Jon & the Nightriders, Los Straitjackets, The Volcanos, the Space Cossacks, and the Neptunas played the night before Atlanta (so, Friday, June 20th) at the 40 Watt Club in Athens, GA, I think that was a pretty well-attended show, from what I remember, and a total freakin' blast! (The Penetrators hosted a bunch of bands west of Atlanta, at The Chukker in Tuscaloosa, AL that night.)
Yeah. My memory is that there were only 150 paying attendees, after a pretty extensive advertising campaign. The Variety Playhouse's capacity is 1000, so it looked awfully empty, even with all the other surf bands there!! Agent Orange headlined and I think they bring in much more than 150 on their own, but I think the ticket price may have been quite high, which kept the people away. At least the atmosphere among the bands was really great, lot of camaraderie, and what a thrill to hear (for the first time for me!) so many of those great bands, including J&TN, the Volcanos, Agent Orange, etc. I do remember hanging out with Rip a lot that day, we had already become friends a year earlier, so we had a grand time. He was truly one of the most awesome people it was my privilege to know. (BTW, the Penetrators shot their performance on video and used the footage for the "Redlined" video - the live performance parts of the video, where they're wearing those awesome red lamé suits, were shot at this show.)
Yeah. From what I remember this meeting went on for several hours, late into the night, while the rest of us waited and waited and waited.... John, I remember chatting with you for quite a while at that point, with a bunch of other people around, and at some point we all started getting really agitated. When the parties finally came out of the meeting everybody looked really pissed off and exhausted. Must have been quite the scene in there!
The Volcanos showed up the Chattanooga show the next day, looked around, saw NOBODY there (literally) as the show was supposed to be starting - and went back to Detroit. Smart fellas there!
The Chattanooga show (at The Bay) the next day (Sunday) was another disaster. A local radio station was doing a live broadcast from the club, but there were still only about 30 people that came - and about 5-6 bands playing, possibly more. No money for anybody again.
The Space Cossacks also played the rest of our booked shows - well, most of them, anyway. J&tN went one way, and we went another at that point. We had Monday off, then Tuesday in Charlotte, NC and Wednesday in Columbia, SC, both with Aqualads (the first time I met those guys, though Jeremy wasn't yet in the band) and Los Perdidos. Both badly attended shows again. Then we were supposed to play Thursday in Virginia Beach, a major tourist hotspot in the summer, opening for Agent Orange, and we thought, that's GOTTA be a great show! Well, about an hour outside Virginia Beach we got a call that we were dropped from the bill! The club booker got wind of how horrible the whole thing's been going, and decided to just stick to the proven draw - and we were completely unknown at that time. That was really a low point. I had had the flu for most of that week, and with the southern summer heat (seriously, it was ridiculous!), all the travel and the late nights, by that Thursday I was completely exhausted. In addition, things were not good in the band with everything having gone so badly. My girlfriend drove down from DC for this show, and since I had to meet her there and had no way to contact her I just had to wait for her. The band simply dropped me off with my suitcase at the club (nice, eh?), so I sat on my suitcase in front of the club, with masses of people passing by me and probably thinking, WTF? When she finally showed up, we went to find a motel room, but everything was booked. (We didn't plan ahead, forgetting how busy it was likely to be.) We had to drive out an hour from Virginia Beach, stopping at every motel we could see, before we finally found ONE available room - and only available cause they had to pull out the air-conditioning unit for servicing! And it was very hot, have I mentioned that? I remember riding back to DC with her the next day and coming the closest to a nervous breakdown that I ever had. I just started crying, and this is NOT like me at all. I was completely at the end of my rope. The fact that I didn't give up music forever at that point was a minor miracle. It DID help that we had one more show to play, in DC the following night (Saturday), at Black Cat, a great club that I had played before with my previous band - and this show was again opening for Agent Orange. And this time they didn't drop us from the bill! Whoo-hoo! The club was pretty packed, and we went down really well, probably one of the best Cossacks shows up to that point. That probably saved my musical career.
Yeah, no, definitely not. The funny thing about Rip's reports is that you can see him being more or less factual in the beginning, but as the tour started to deteriorate and the reports of that were rolling in, he started making the story more and more outlandish! I remember reading it at the time and just laughing uproariously! He had style. There you go, those are my memories, for better or worse. —Ivan Last edited: May 15, 2018 11:23:05 |
Joined: Feb 27, 2006 Posts: 10331 southern Michigan |
BTW, HUGE HUGE thanks to Ferenc for posting those reports by Rip! I had never forgotten them and it was a true pleasure to be able to read them again. Thank you, brother! —Ivan |
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Thanks for your recollections, Ivan! Even 20 years on, there is so much to be learned about how passionate some people are about surf music, and how little the rest of the world cares about it. Good to know that so many involved in a debacle of this proportion are still slugging it out for the music. —Buy Speed of Dark @ Bandcamp |
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Here's my report - it was in one of the early issues of the Continental Magazine. I'd edit it, but it seems more appropriate just to copy and past it as it originally ran in the magazine: SURFARI USA I just got back from this year's Surfari USA concerts. Now that I have recovered from my experience I am able to put together a report from the shows I attended. Here goes... A couple of weeks ago I flew down to Atlanta to attend four instrumental Friday, June 20th I also stopped at the Talladega Speedway to visit the International Motor Sports Hall of Fame, which had about 100 race cars on display. I pulled into Tuscaloosa around 5:00 and looked for The Chukker, site of It was time to head over to The Chukker for the show. On the bill were The Penetrators, Squid Vicious, The Atomic Teen Idols, Johnny & The Shamen, and The Mystery Men. I finally got to meet The Penetrators, who I had only communicated with via e-mail and telephone to this point. They are the first band with a release on my new record label and we had worked on the whole thing without ever meeting. One of my reasons for coming down to the shows was to promote the new 7" record, but we only had the sleeves ready. Nevertheless, we were able to get the word out on the single and everyone was pretty excited about it. The show started at about 9:30. The Penetrators decided to go on third instead of the headlining slot to allow the out-of-town bands to play longer sets. This goodwill gesture backfired, since the number of people in the club peaked during their set and most of the people left once it was over. The Atomic Teen Idols played next and won the crowd over with their energetic mix of surf & ska covers and originals. They had travelled further than any other band on the tour, all the way from Olympia, WA. The evening ended with a long set from Squid Vicious. One thing I learned right away is that bars in the South don't close. The show was over at 3:30 AM and we didn't leave the club until 4:30 AM. As we walked outside I noticed a blueish tint in the early morning sky. It was time to find a place to crash for a few hours until I had to make the long drive back to Atlanta. Saturday, June 21st It was a long drive back to Atlanta. I hit a heavy rain storm at the Unfortunately, the show started much earlier than I thought so I missed The Penetrators were next, playing a set virtually identical to what they played in Tuscaloosa. They opened each night with the first two tracks from the new 7" (whatta way to plug the new release!). Following them were The Space Cossacks, playing a cool mix of originals and covers. What I love about them are their choice of covers (stuff from The Atlantics, The Ventures, Dick Dale, and others) and their guitar sound - pretty amazing. The Neptunas came on stage and were one of the highlights of the tour. Sunday, June 22nd I got lots of sleep and was ready to hit the road to Chattanooga. My If you haven't heard of Rock City here is a quick description. It is located on Lookout Mountain, high above Chattanooga, and features a winding path through all sorts of unusual rock formations (some natural, some man-made). There's Mushroom Rock, Balancing Rock, and Fat Man's Squeeze, along with a rope bridge and a view of seven states. The It was about 8:00 by this point so I decided to head down to The Bay for The Neptunas were playing when I got to the club. They pulled out all the stops, with versions of Agent Orange's 'Bloodstains', as well as 'Hawaii 5-O', and 'Walk, Don't Run'. They also had one of the Atomic Teen Idols on stage doing some At this point there were doubts that the Nashville show would even Monday, June 23rd It took about 2 hours to get to Nashville, taking in some beautiful Then I headed out to the 'burbs to find United Record Pressing, the company doing the vinyl for The Penetrators 7". They gave me a tour of the plant and showed me how a record is made. Our single was set to be pressed the following day, so I didn't get to see it come off the press. Still, it was really cool to see the whole process (they were working on some rap records while I was there). My next goal was to find the club for this evening's show, no easy task I missed Squid Vicious, since I was busy backstage taking advantage of The Atomic Teen Idols were definitely one of the highlights of the entire Jon & The Nightriders ended the evening with yet another blistering set Musicwise, Surfari USA was a huge success. It is rare to have the Sean Surf CD's / Vinyl / Fanzines / DVD's Last edited: May 15, 2018 08:01:43 |
Joined: Feb 25, 2006 Posts: 19286 Des Moines, Iowa, USA |
This thread is a gold mine! PolloGuitar wrote:
I was thinking the same thing. So many bands on the original list are at least partially active. Crazy! —Site dude - S3 Agent #202 "It starts... when it begins" -- Ralf Kilauea |
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Great stories, or maybe not so great if you were there at the time. Makes you feel a little more appreciative for the present day surf music festivals. Where did the idea for this tour originate? —Los Apollos - cinematic surf music trio (Berlin) |
Joined: Sep 01, 2006 Posts: 2722 New Orleans, LA |
Man, this is all really interesting. And love Sean's side note about Rock City. — |
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Wow! What else is there to say. I made time to watch the 2 videos. That was cool. When those were made, it was difficult to buy surf music. I found some guy in Salt Lake City that sold me some cd's before I found POP Records with Ferenc. Last edited: May 15, 2018 20:02:05 |
Joined: Aug 23, 2007 Posts: 595 Monterey County, California |
As usual, Ivan's memory is disturbingly impeccable. I just found this list in a file cabinet, and it appears to be rather preliminary at the time it was typed, so FWIW:
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Joined: Feb 27, 2006 Posts: 2063 Virginia, USA |
Did the Chantays ever actually play the Virginia Beach and DC shows? —Paul |