Shoutbox

dp: dude
365 days ago

Bango_Rilla: Shout Bananas!!
320 days ago

BillyBlastOff: See you kiddies at the Convention!
304 days ago

GDW: showman
255 days ago

Emilien03: https://losg...
177 days ago

Pyronauts: Happy Tanks-Kicking!!!
171 days ago

glennmagi: CLAM SHACK guitar
156 days ago

Hothorseraddish: surf music is amazing
136 days ago

dp: get reverberated!
87 days ago

Clint: “A Day at the Beach” podcast #237 is TWO HOURS of NEW surf music releases. https://link...
20 days ago

Please login or register to shout.

IRC Status
  • racc

Join them in the #ShallowEnd!

Need help getting started?

Current Polls

No polls at this time. Check out our past polls.

Current Contests

No contests at this time. Check out our past contests.

Donations

Help us meet our monthly goal:

62%

62%

Donate Now

Cake May Birthdays Cake
SG101 Banner

SurfGuitar101 Forums » Gear »

Permalink One-of-a-kind vibrato tailpiece?

New Topic
Page 1 of 1

I thought some of you DIYers might find this interesting.

I traded a guy some pickups I'd never use for a homemade mustang guitar body he'd never use. The routing of the body was nearly done, but it was a clean slate for the bridge. I didn't want a strat bridge, because the body is long and I think it needs something toward the heel. I could have used a Jazzmaster "tremolo" tailpiece, but I already have a Squier JM with that. It occurred to me to do something between these two possibilities.

I thought of a two-point strat-like piece to change the string tension positioned toward the heel, but with a separate bridge. I did some calculations of the forces involved and came up with a good compromise of position, string-break angle, and spring tension required. I made a mockup on a 2 x 4, and it worked well, so I proceeded to route the body.

The end result is as you see below. I have the springs tightened up so the tailpiece rests on the body. I haven't tried to have it float because tuning stability is more important to me than being able to raise a note's pitch. Tuning stability and sustain for this guitar are good.

If anyone's interested, I could lay out the dimensions. I'm also interested to know if anyone has seen such a vibrato setup.

Lee

image
image
image
image

If I'd stop buying old guitars to fix, I might actually learn to play.
Bringing instruments back to life since 2013.

Would like to hear some whammy clips.

Would like to hear some whammy clips.>

I'll make some. It may take a few days.

If I'd stop buying old guitars to fix, I might actually learn to play.
Bringing instruments back to life since 2013.

-

Last edited: Feb 02, 2024 13:30:05

Beautifully done, and a very clean look. Are the string holes teardrop shaped or do you put them in from underneath the plate?

That's really cool! What's the pitch range - half step, full step? I've had in mind to do something similar using a regular strat vibrato for years but never got around to it - I'm curious how much the different geometry of the string mounts affects the pitch range.

Great job and a cool looking build too.

Thanks for the kind comments!

Here's a short clip--it's just an Emaj chord. First the neck PU and then the bridge. I moved the arm so that the low E note dropped to an E flat. With that, the high E dropped 35 cents with the other notes dropping intermediate amounts.

Short clip

(The clip is on Google Drive, but anyone with the link should have access, and it should open in a music player window.)

Are the string holes teardrop shaped or do you put them in from underneath the plate?

Teardrop holes never crossed my mind. Too bad, as that would have been nice. It's a bit of a pain to guide the strings into their holes from underneath.

What's the pitch range ...

From my guitars, the pitch range is more than a Jazzmaster and somewhat less than a Strat. On the Jazzmaster, I can drop the high E almost to an E flat, and the low E to a D. On a Strat, I can drop the high E easily to a D and the low E to an A (not that I'd ever really want to in actual playing).

I'm curious how much the different geometry of the string mounts affects the pitch range.

There are a lot of factors that I considered in setting this up--the height of the bridge, the distance of the vibrato mounts to the bridge, the distance of the string ends from the mounts, the position of the block that holds the springs, the height of this block, etc. I must say, I didn't consider pitch range. I was concerned to have the force on the springs be like on a strat and to have the effect on string length be similar for a similar angular movement of the plate. I'm fortunate that the pitch range turned out to be more than I'll need.

Thanks again, Lee

If I'd stop buying old guitars to fix, I might actually learn to play.
Bringing instruments back to life since 2013.

That is one of the coolest things I’ve ever seen. I love that guitar.

The artist formerly known as: Synchro

When Surf Guitar is outlawed only outlaws will play Surf Guitar.

Page 1 of 1
Top