mattjohnston
Joined: Jun 02, 2014
Posts: 1
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Posted on Feb 19 2018 08:06 PM
Hi People ,
Im doing a Dick Dale build Stratocaster . I want it to be close and have the body painted with gold flake , I have done the electronics , Im looking for a neck . The fender signature model says its uses a 9.5" Rad C with vintage frets . I thought Dicks guitar would have had a vintage 7.25" Rad with vintage frets . Im not sure to go either 7.25" with vintage frets or 9.5" with medium frets as that's all I can find in necks .
I think a few people that belong to this site have built sone nice Dick style Stratocasters .
I would be interested to hear your opinions
Cheers
Matt
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tahitijack
Joined: Nov 03, 2006
Posts: 693
San Clemente, CA
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Posted on Feb 19 2018 11:08 PM
Welcome to SG 101, damn glad to meet you. Why don't you tell us a little about yourself.
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JakeDobner
Joined: Feb 26, 2006
Posts: 12159
Seattle
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Posted on Feb 19 2018 11:12 PM
Musikraft will do a 9.5 with vintage frets.
Also, Dick's Strat was for sure 7.25" when he made 90% of the surf music he ever recorded. Probably got his re-radius'd at some point, it isn't hard.
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JakeG
Joined: Feb 08, 2018
Posts: 32
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Posted on Feb 20 2018 09:10 AM
i read that DD's neck has a very thin profile. also i don't think the custom shop signature is entirely accurate.
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JakeDobner
Joined: Feb 26, 2006
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Seattle
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Posted on Feb 20 2018 11:27 AM
JakeG wrote:
also i don't think the custom shop signature is entirely accurate.
Exactly!
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Redfeather
Joined: Jul 30, 2016
Posts: 896
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Posted on Feb 20 2018 08:17 PM
Somewhere on this forum is someone's account of actually examining and playing The Beast.
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JakeDobner
Joined: Feb 26, 2006
Posts: 12159
Seattle
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Posted on Feb 20 2018 08:41 PM
Redfeather wrote:
Somewhere on this forum is someone's account of actually examining and playing The Beast.
Yep, Ivan posted it.
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JakeDobner
Joined: Feb 26, 2006
Posts: 12159
Seattle
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Posted on Feb 20 2018 09:01 PM
From Ivan in 2004
This is the original Strat, given to
Dick by Leo Fender, back in '60 or '61. It was originally white with
a tortoiseshell pickguard, but around '64 he repainted it gold
sparkle, and put a white pickguard on it. As everybody knows by now,
the strings on it are huge. I've gotten really used to pretty heavy
strings (12-52), but these were definitely thicker than that (he
claims 15-60). He's got a pretty low action on the guitar, though,
so it felt comfortable to play the guitar. It's beat to hell,
though, it's in a really bad shape. The lower frets are TOTALLY
gauged out! There's no way he can play a note on the first few frets
and sustain it in tune. It just wouldn't happen. Also, the nut is
partially cracked. And four lower (I think) strings are strung the
wrong way around the tuning heads - instead of clockwise, they're
strung counterclockwise, so there isn't a straight pull from the nut
to the heads! Very weird! I pointed this out to Sam, who was
shocked to see it. He asked DD's guitar tech, and the guy told him
that Dick personally asked him to string it that way. I don't get
it... Sam also told me that two of the pickups in the guitar aren't
original - they were stolen when the guitar was in a shop in the
seventies, and the replacements are stock seventies Strat pickups -
the secret of DD's tone is finally revealed! Smile Dick doesn't use the
backplate, and he's got five springs tightened to hell, and then a
wooden block wedged in between the bridge and the body, to ensure
that the bridge doesn't move one iota (I think Clapton's Strats are
set up the same way). The paint is in really bad shape, too,
especially where the arm rests on the body, where there is hardly any
paint left. The neck is quite worn, and the lacquer, where there is
any left, has turned brown. There are only bits and pieces left of
the Fender logo on the headstock, too. But, with all that, the
guitar has a very resonant and 'woody' sound when strummed
unplugged. It actually really sounded like his tone, even unplugged,
which was a bit surprising but cool. Like I said, because the action
was pretty low, it felt comfortable to play. And it's a very light
guitar, which is also quite nice. He's also got a prototype
pickguard on the guitar with a tuner built-in. One of the switches
on the guitar engages the tuner, and there are little LEDs on the
side facing his head so he can quickly tune.
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Joelman
Joined: Sep 07, 2006
Posts: 1506
Redlands, CA
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Posted on Feb 21 2018 01:36 AM
Another thread had this video linked. Watch this video if you want a good look at the beast. It is pretty beat up. You can see the tuning lights at the top of the pick guard. What gets me is that with the guitar being a left handed guitar, he has the strings on upside down. I wonder why?
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djangodeadman
Joined: Jan 25, 2007
Posts: 1568
Brighton UK
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Posted on Feb 21 2018 04:38 AM
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djangodeadman
Joined: Jan 25, 2007
Posts: 1568
Brighton UK
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Posted on Feb 21 2018 04:43 AM
Here is a photograph of me playing the Beest backstage at The Garage in London some years ago. It was taken by Dusty Watson. If you zoom in, you can probably see some of what is described in earlier posts, although it's pretty low-res, so the detail gets somewhat lost.

— Los Fantasticos
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djangodeadman
Joined: Jan 25, 2007
Posts: 1568
Brighton UK
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Posted on Feb 21 2018 04:45 AM
Joelman wrote:
Another thread had this video linked. Watch this video if you want a good look at the beast. It is pretty beat up. You can see the tuning lights at the top of the pick guard. What gets me is that with the guitar being a left handed guitar, he has the strings on upside down. I wonder why?
Probably because, like many left-handed guitarists, he first learned to play by picking up a right-handed guitar and turning it upside down. I've known some left-handed players who can play with the strings either way round.
It also makes it easier for right-handers, like me, to pick up Dick's guitar and play it!
— Los Fantasticos
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Ariel
Joined: Aug 29, 2009
Posts: 1556
Israel
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Posted on Feb 21 2018 06:50 AM
Ukalele it was. DD tells he picked it up left-handed naturally because drums were his first instrument, something. Then he just stuck with it.
Cool pic, djangodeadman.
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Clarry
Joined: Oct 01, 2014
Posts: 519
Streatham, London
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Posted on Feb 22 2018 05:24 AM
djangodeadman wrote:
Here is a photograph of me playing the Beest backstage at The Garage in London some years ago.
Close to 20 years ago? Around the time I first encountered you.
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crumble
Joined: Sep 09, 2008
Posts: 3158
Guildford England
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Posted on Feb 22 2018 06:26 AM
Nice photo Jon!
Looking through Google Images with the size option set to large this Dick Dale "The Beast" poster appeared. It's from the October 1994 edition of Guitar World. Back issues are still available HERE

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SixStringSurfer
Joined: Sep 23, 2014
Posts: 1432
Memphis, TN
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Posted on Jul 18 2022 01:41 PM
Hi guys, I am going to be in the market for a Dick Dale Strat soon. I assume it will be more cost effective to buy a DD Custom Shop (new $4,100 / used approx $3,300 -3,500) than to have a guitar built from scratch for me. Just looking to hear your thoughts and opinions, thanks!
— MooreLoud.com - A tribute to Dick Dale. New EP Louder Than Life available on bandcamp and website. Taking guitar lessons from Jimmy Dale.
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ELZEB
Joined: Aug 30, 2017
Posts: 55
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Posted on Jul 18 2022 03:05 PM
I've modified 2 mexican 60's reissue strats, both very different guitars because they're 20 years apart. Changed the pickups, bridge/block and modified the electronics according to the Beast (apart from the volume pot wich I prefer in the lowest slot instead of right under the bridge pickup). I also string them upside down.
The DD CS strat is actually modeled after the Beauty, wich is modeled after the Beast. The Beast has a 7.25" radius A width neck while the Beauty has a 9.5" radius B width neck.
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GrimSlim
Joined: Jul 15, 2022
Posts: 19
Okanagan Valley, British Columbia Canada
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Posted on Jul 18 2022 03:30 PM
I think it would still be cheaper to source the parts and then have a good tech or luthier do the assembly. It all depends on how close you want it to be to the original!
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SixStringSurfer
Joined: Sep 23, 2014
Posts: 1432
Memphis, TN
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Posted on Jul 18 2022 03:51 PM
Thank you for the replies, you guys. I thought the beauty was the CS Strat! He talked about it on stage in 1994 when The Beast broke, and he had to switch to "The Beauty." I do want it to be the correct color, I wonder if they sell a Mexican Strat in the exact color as The Beast? I'll do some more research.
— MooreLoud.com - A tribute to Dick Dale. New EP Louder Than Life available on bandcamp and website. Taking guitar lessons from Jimmy Dale.
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Diabeetus
Joined: Jul 18, 2022
Posts: 7
Michigan
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Posted on Jul 19 2022 08:49 AM
Not sure if it's blasphemous to ask this, but does your build have to be all genuine Fender parts? I built my own Strat a while back (mine looks more David Gilmour than Dick Dale), and ended up using a neck from Warmoth . Crazy amount of custom options in terms of wood, frets, profile, radius, finish. Same is true for their Strat bodies. Checked out their site to make sure this could be helpful to you, and for their Strat bodies they do have a Gold Flake option (satin or gloss).
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