JakeDobner
Joined: Feb 26, 2006
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Seattle
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Posted on Feb 03 2018 02:29 PM
Please share your thoughts on Buddy and some memories of his music that ring true to you!
I've always felt a connection with Buddy Holly. It could be that my birthday coincides with that fateful day. It could be learning about the man and personal life. It could be the fact that he was one of the first to write his own material when using the now ubiquitous rock band format. It could also be that his vocal delivery, the beat of his music, and his guitar playing all still hold up and still have their own unique sound. Buddy's music isn't a victim of a 'hit factory' of those producers and songwriters shaping the career of so many entertainers.
I'm trying to recount how I became a fan of Buddy's. I remember in 8th grade picking up a vinyl record of Buddy's that I found while traveling for a baseball tournament. I don't know if I learned about American Pie and the Day the Music Died first, if I heard a MxPx cover of Oh Boy (and even realized it was a cover), or if I just happened across him. I remember Heartbeat was the first song I heard of his and then got everyday. I was using Napster or something like that to find his music at the time. Either way, at least 20 years of my life I've had Buddy's music.
I'm a really big fan of his Apartment Tapes, especially Learning the Game. True Love Ways is one of the greats. Everyday, Heartbeat, It Doesn't Matter Anymore, Dearest, etc... All so great.
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CrazyAces
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Nashville, TN.
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Posted on Feb 03 2018 03:41 PM
Lifelong fan here as well.
His music was some of the first I encountered being played live on guitar (by my Dad) and some of the first music I learned to play as a very young boy.
I'd even go so far as to say I learned to sing and play simultaneously from Buddy Holly songs.
His music will always resonate with me.
Cheers,
Jeff
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Richard
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Georgia
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Posted on Feb 03 2018 04:33 PM
It's funny that you post this today. Tonight in Atlanta at the Star Community Bar they are having their annual HollyFest, "A celebration of the music of Buddy Holly, Ritchie Valens and the Big Bopper." A bunch of different bands play their versions of each of these artists' songs but it's very heavy on Holly, as you may imagine. Lots of local roots/rockabilly bands but there's all types. The Mystery Men? have been fixtures there in the past but we've wound up taking the last couple of years off. We do or have done instro versions Heartbeat, Peggy Sue, Love Me, Tell Me How, Words of Love and probably one or two others I'm forgetting. My personal favorite Buddy Holly song is Love Me, and I grew up knowing him as one of the pioneers of rock 'n roll from oldies radio.
My very first band was a cowpunk-type band that played everything too fast. That was our thing. We played Oh Boy and Peggy Sue as well. My favorite cover of Oh Boy is actually by pop punk band The Lillingtons (my personal favorite flavor of Ramones-derived pop punk, though I also liked MxPx). I don't wax poetic about Buddy Holly the way I will about Link Wray or some other obscure early rock figures because he seems to have gotten his due. On my main personal Spotify playlist I always have a couple of Buddy's.
Now I'm wrestling with whether to stay home with the family or make the trek into the city to attend HollyFest. It is always a good time and good music.
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eddiekatcher
Joined: Mar 14, 2006
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Atlanta, GA
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Posted on Feb 03 2018 04:50 PM
If you decide to make the trek, don't drink the PBR.
Ed
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crumble
Joined: Sep 09, 2008
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Guildford England
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Posted on Feb 03 2018 06:07 PM
Zero interest until I saw the movie The Buddy Holly Story (1978)
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gatorfiend
Joined: Aug 08, 2015
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Gainesville, Florida
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Posted on Feb 03 2018 06:09 PM
Eddie that's always a good rule, that stuff is wretched.
Great writer, player and singer. And gotta' be the greatest hiccup singer ever, I'm sure Lux Interior was inspired by the man.
If y'all don't have it, get the CD titled Hollybilly, great stuff.
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spskins
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Posted on Feb 03 2018 08:02 PM
I've loved him since my folks got the American Graffiti soundtrack when I was 5 or 6. I still hear the Wolfman Jack intro in my head whenever I hear the beginning notes of "That'll Be the Day".
I think he took the electric guitar to the next level with his solos and tones, compared to those who came before him.
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Sonichris
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Wear gloves - I'm in the Rockies
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Posted on Feb 03 2018 09:13 PM
I’ve been a lifelong fan. Maybe my favorite artist of all time. My first exposure to To Buddy Holly was the same as Ted’s, the American Graffiti Soundtrack. Something just resonated with me. I think it was 1978 when I first saw it, in Anaheim, CA, during a family vacation. My whole life revolves around that memory. Buddy Holly, and then The Beach Boys.
I love the guitar clarity, and I love the way Buddy Sings. I remember asking my mom why he sang “Peggy Sue” the way he did, with a regular voice, then a high voice, then a low voice. I don’t recall what her response was, but I do remember it was quite striking at the time.
I also like how influential he was to virtually everyone. He was a big big deal in England, and influenced everyone, from the Shadows to the Beatles. And, they influenced everyone else. Everyone has a Buddy Holly story.
I also like the Clovis NM/Buddy Holly/Fireball/surf connection. I hear a lot of Buddy in the Fireballs, and I hear a lot of Fireballs in surf. And, in a way, I hear a lot of Buddy Holly in Surf. Super clean and clear guitar.
And I hear a lot of Buddy Holly in music I hear everyday. He’s everywhere.
And. PBR isn’t the worst you could do. Coors Light is the worst you could do. Trust me.
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Badger
Joined: Nov 16, 2013
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Wisconsin
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Posted on Feb 04 2018 06:08 AM
CrazyAces wrote:
I'd even go so far as to say I learned to sing and play simultaneously from Buddy Holly songs.
Ditto. When I was a kid we would make a couple weeks' trip to Lubbock from Van Nuys to visit the side of the family who'd stayed in Texas & not migrated to Southern California for jobs during the war (versus staying to pick cotton). Stayed at Grandma's farm house outside Smyer, little town outside Lubbock. Looking back, this is what my older cousins had on all the time. I know my aunt's & uncles thought it was pretty new & "different" but, hey, "local boy!" Playing & singing at the same time, and what IS that guitar?
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synchro
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Not One-Sawn, but Two-Sawn . . . AZ.
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Posted on Feb 05 2018 04:15 PM
He definitely advanced the art of Rock n' Roll guitar. For perspective, I did not play Rock in my earlier years, I was almost strictly a Jazz player. Later on, I realized that I needed something which would appeal to a broader audience and I decided to pursue the Rock guitar I liked, which would be roughly defined as early '60s music, before heavy distortion became all but ubiquitous. Since that time, I've been working on that style of guitar and have found that much of what I play seems to have been done by Buddy Holly. His music definitely influenced the world of Rock guitar forevermore.
When Surf music first appeared, Buddy Holly was the state of the art for rock n' roll guitar. The Shadows were strongly influenced by him and snippets of his ideas were just part of the scenery in early '60s rock n' roll.
It's been my observation that most innovations seem to arise in many places at around the same time. Many major inventions were credited to one person, but usually there were a number of people working independently from one another and arriving at the same point nearly simultaneously. I would opine that it's the same with rock n' roll guitar, there is no one single person that developed it, but a lot of players contributed. Was Scotty Moore the first? Cliff Gallup? Chuck Berry? All of these people were major contributors, but but even they had influences from Jazz, R&B and Country artists that are before them.
Buddy Holly, however, seemed to bring the singer/songwriter notion to the mix in a way which was hard to find precedent for. He played out of his chord forms and made it sound deceptively easy. A lot of guitar players wore down the grooves of Buddy Holly singles trying to learn just how he did what he did.
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EdRadakovitz
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Lockport, IL
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Posted on Feb 06 2018 08:03 AM
I discovered Buddy Holly in my mid teens (early 80's). I went thru a phase where I went back to the 50's trying to discover the music I would hear my mom and her friends talk about. I would also see random articles here and there about those artists and the musicians I admired would reference them as well. When I heard Buddy Holly's "Rave On" for the first time I was blown away. I bought a compilation on cassette and listened to it over and over. To this day when somebody says "Play me something on your guitar..." I usually go with Buddy's song "Maybe Baby", which is one of my favorite songs of all time. To me he is the true king of Rock N Roll because he was one of the first if not the first to write, record, produce and perform his music. Complete talent and way ahead of his time. Great topic!!
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shake_n_stomp
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Vancouver BC
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Posted on Feb 06 2018 10:23 AM
My father was in his mid-teens in Saskatchewan (prairies) during Buddy Holly's first hits and those songs stayed with him his entire life. He and I didn't see eye-to-eye about music...in fact, he was quite brutal in his view of music I listened to so, in return, I automatically dismissed his Buddy Holly tunes as old man bullsh!t throw-back hillbilly music with a hiccup'ing vocal style.
As I matured, the sheer amount of reverence paid to the music, accomplishments, and short life of Buddy Holly that all my heroes had for him really turned that tide and that crappy, ignorant attitude disappeared.
Leading up to my dad's death in 2010, he and I were able to let down our guards and we kind of bonded in our appreciation for Holly. He may have been from Lubbock, TX but his impact was world wide. I have completely changed my idea of those memories of my dad spinning those 45s on his small console RCA Victor record player/AM radio; I would rather keep the memories of my dad sitting back and enjoying Holly's music than his many faults as a parent. That love of music was probably the only thing my dad and I had in common and could talk about without getting into some heated argument or sore feelings.
A couple of years back, we had a surf/rockabilly gig that happened to be on the death anniversary of my dad. The rest of the guys agreed to add That'll Be The Day and in my own little private moment on stage I paid tribute to my dad. That was a tough moment to get through and it kind of closed the door on the grieving process of losing him.
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JakeG
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Posted on Feb 09 2018 07:54 PM
I remember when i started playing guitar buddy was my biggest influence. i had a greatest hits cassette that i played so much it melted
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da-ron
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The original Plymouth, UK.
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Posted on Feb 10 2018 05:25 PM
When I was about 10 years old, my mum bought me a record player for my birthday. My birthday is in June and I remember it being a hot sunny day. She bought two records, one was a guy called Elvis Presley and one was by a guy wearing big thick glasses and called Buddy Holly.
I remember sitting on the edge of the bed wide eyed as she wired all the speakers up, set up the record player, took the Buddy Holly record out and put on the player. She pushed a button and the needle settled on the record. She turned the volume pretty much all the way up, and Rave On burst out the speakers - the loudest, most exciting thing I'd heard in all my young like. "I'M GOING TO LISTEN TO IT THE GARDEN" she yelled, opened the window and left me in the room with the raw, thumping sound of Buddy Holly. It was love at first listen. And if I ever turned that record player above 3, I was yelled at to turn it down.
Ten years later I'm heading through Norfolk to go surfing. By this time I wear glasses, I'm tall, slim with dark hair. I stop in a gas station and as I go in to pay, Joe Brown opens the door, with Marty Wilde behind him. I know who Joe Brown is - the main that brought the plain G to UK guitarists - so I say, or rather, blurt out: "Are you Joe Brown?!" Quick as a flash he says which his Cockney accent, "Yeh, are you Buddy 'Olly?"
As my life has changed over the years, there's one constant - Buddy Holly's music always has a place in my record collection.
Apparently, his glasses were never found.
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EdRadakovitz
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Lockport, IL
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Posted on Feb 10 2018 07:29 PM
Hey guys... this tread inspired me... check out my surf version of "Rave On" Rave On by The Surfusions
Rave On!!
Ed
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da-ron
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The original Plymouth, UK.
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Posted on Feb 11 2018 04:18 AM
EdRadakovitz wrote:
Hey guys... this tread inspired me... check out my surf version of "Rave On" Rave On by The Surfusions
Rave On!!
Ed
What a great idea! I love the crickets in the middle!
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Matt22
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Fredericksburg, Virginia
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Posted on Feb 11 2018 06:32 PM
I've been a life-long fan like others here. My first exposure to Buddy was from my father, who had a huge record collection because he had always wanted to be a DJ. He used to play records and we'd all sing to the songs as kids. Buddy was his favorite singer and songwriter. We watched American Graffiti but I already knew most of the music because of dad. When I was older, I watched the Buddy Holly story with Gary Busey and didn't like it at all. I still am not a fan of Busey, but I did think it was cool that he went on tour after the movie. When I lived in Germany, I saw Buddy, das Musical in Hamburg. LOVED it!!!! Even though it was all in German, the songs were all in English and sounded very spot-on. Because of Buddy, the first guitar I fell in love with was a Fender Strat and I always wanted one.
George Tomsco tells great stories of Buddy Holly and I never knew it was the Fireballs who played the music on a few of his (posthumous)tunes, like Peggy Sue Got Married. That was my favorite song as a kid and I never knew it was Tomsco playing lead. I always assumed it was all Buddy.
The first song of his I picked out on guitar was "Listen to Me."
Attached is the Fireballs backing up Buddy.
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websurfer
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Posted on Feb 11 2018 09:44 PM
I bought a Buddy Holly play along DVD a few years ago. This makes me want to get it out again. What I am really impressed by is his inventiveness with mostly a few simple chords and progressions, and he used them to write so many great tunes. There's sort of a surf connection because Bobby Fuller was hugely influenced and did those surf instros. (I know that's stretching it.)
Anyway Ted had me thinking about it and I'm hard pressed to remember even hearing a Buddy Holly song before that American Graffiti soundtrack. I wore that out along with the Beach Boys (despite what Milner said about that "surf shit".) It probably cemented my lifetime love of oldies.
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Matt22
Joined: Feb 15, 2007
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Fredericksburg, Virginia
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Posted on Feb 11 2018 10:20 PM
I don't think it's stretching it. I do believe there is a big connection between Buddy and Bobby, and Bobby and surf.
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spskins
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Posted on Feb 12 2018 08:35 AM
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