Justice for Brian Wilson

remora1

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Posted on Jan 18 2018 10:34 AM

It's nice to pick up the morning paper and see an article like this- front page too!

Beach Boys’ Brian Wilson returns to alma mater at Hawthorne High School for some justice

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stratdancer

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Posted on Jan 18 2018 10:38 AM

Certainly put a smile on my face!

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JObeast

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Posted on Jan 18 2018 10:39 AM

But:
“Surfin’ USA” was released on an album of the same name in 1963 and spent 25 weeks on the Billboard Hot 100 Chart, peaking at third place. Chuck Berry received writing credit and publishing royalties for the hit because it was based on his 1958 hit “Sweet Little Sixteen.”

Maybe they should have adjusted the grade to “C”.

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Sonichris

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Posted on Jan 18 2018 10:44 AM

JObeast wrote:

But:
“Surfin’ USA” was released on an album of the same name in 1963 and spent 25 weeks on the Billboard Hot 100 Chart, peaking at third place. Chuck Berry received writing credit and publishing royalties for the hit because it was based on his 1958 hit “Sweet Little Sixteen.”

Maybe they should have adjusted the grade to “C”.

That article is wrong. The song he wrote, and received the F on, is Surfin'. It was the first song The Beach Boys recorded. Surfing USA was a few years later, and had no resemblance to Surfin' at all. I can't believe they got the story wrong.

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remora1

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Posted on Jan 18 2018 11:20 AM

I noticed they got it right in the photo caption -

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JohnnyMosrite

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Posted on Jan 18 2018 11:20 AM

Given the time period, I can see why his rather stodgy and musically short sighted teacher gave him an "F". Rock and roll was barely 10 years old. The "old guard" such as his teacher looked down on it with the usual disdain of "it's just three simple chords" or some such condescension. Well meaning, at best, but still really stupid advice. They probably forgot that their ancient parents looked down on their swing jazz and big bands.
So it goes. There are times I thank my inner instincts in ignoring and subverting my youthful overseers by pursuing what I damn well felt like pursuing.

Personally, I would have kept the "F". It would be like saying "'F'-bomb You" to the idiot teacher's memory.

J Mo'

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ElMonstroPorFavor

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Posted on Jan 18 2018 11:29 AM

Does nobody else find it crazy that this is a high school with a music class that not only had its students write original compositions, but graded them? Music theory was an elective for me, only 5 other people in the class, and we were basically just writing chord progressions. Same in college.

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Sonichris

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Posted on Jan 18 2018 11:29 AM

I always figured the assignment was to write a song in a certain style, or using specific musical ideas that simply weren't met by Brian and his song. He probably deserved the F. I don't know that he ever complained about it.

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Posted on Jan 18 2018 12:54 PM

Bom bom dip da dip.

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spskins

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Posted on Jan 18 2018 01:06 PM

In the "Beach Boys:America's Band" documentary, they have a short clip with the teacher, who says that he should have given him an A.

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websurfer

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Posted on Jan 18 2018 01:29 PM

Imagine if he had just given up figuring he had no talent for music?

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websurfer

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Posted on Jan 18 2018 01:39 PM

Brian has credited this for part of the inspiration for Surfin', but I don't particularly hear it, except that I can fit in the lyric, "Surfin' is the only life the only way for me", but that could fit a lot of tunes.

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JObeast

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Posted on Jan 18 2018 08:32 PM

Sonichris wrote:

JObeast wrote:

But:
“Surfin’ USA” was released on an album of the same name in 1963 and spent 25 weeks on the Billboard Hot 100 Chart, peaking at third place. Chuck Berry received writing credit and publishing royalties for the hit because it was based on his 1958 hit “Sweet Little Sixteen.”

Maybe they should have adjusted the grade to “C”.

That article is wrong. The song he wrote, and received the F on, is Surfin'. It was the first song The Beach Boys recorded. Surfing USA was a few years later, and had no resemblance to Surfin' at all. I can't believe they got the story wrong.

I still think the school should stick by its instructors judgement, and balance the honor accorded both. I’m guessing he’s deceased? Maybe a “B” for that song then.

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Clarry

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Posted on Jan 19 2018 07:37 AM

spskins wrote:

In the "Beach Boys:America's Band" documentary, they have a short clip with the teacher, who says that he should have given him an A.

Judging from that photo, she's aged really well

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remora1 Joined: Jan 04, 2008 Posts: 1278 San Pedro, CA	Posted on Jan 18 2018 10:34 AM It's nice to pick up the morning paper and see an article like this- front page too! Beach Boys’ Brian Wilson returns to alma mater at Hawthorne High School for some justice — Bill S._______ Top
stratdancer Joined: Dec 11, 2013 Posts: 2537 Akron, Ohio	Posted on Jan 18 2018 10:38 AM Certainly put a smile on my face! — The Kahuna Kings https://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Kahuna-Kings/459752090818447 https://thekahunakings.bandcamp.com/releases Top
JObeast Joined: Jul 24, 2012 Posts: 2762 Finknabad, Squinkistan	Posted on Jan 18 2018 10:39 AM But: “Surfin’ USA” was released on an album of the same name in 1963 and spent 25 weeks on the Billboard Hot 100 Chart, peaking at third place. Chuck Berry received writing credit and publishing royalties for the hit because it was based on his 1958 hit “Sweet Little Sixteen.” Maybe they should have adjusted the grade to “C”. — Squink Out! Top
Sonichris Joined: Mar 06, 2006 Posts: 1911 Wear gloves - I'm in the Rockies	Posted on Jan 18 2018 10:44 AM JObeast wrote: But: “Surfin’ USA” was released on an album of the same name in 1963 and spent 25 weeks on the Billboard Hot 100 Chart, peaking at third place. Chuck Berry received writing credit and publishing royalties for the hit because it was based on his 1958 hit “Sweet Little Sixteen.” Maybe they should have adjusted the grade to “C”. That article is wrong. The song he wrote, and received the F on, is Surfin'. It was the first song The Beach Boys recorded. Surfing USA was a few years later, and had no resemblance to Surfin' at all. I can't believe they got the story wrong. — "You can't tell where you're going if you don't know where you've been" Last edited: Jan 18, 2018 10:47:30 Top
remora1 Joined: Jan 04, 2008 Posts: 1278 San Pedro, CA	Posted on Jan 18 2018 11:20 AM I noticed they got it right in the photo caption - — Bill S._______ Top
JohnnyMosrite Joined: Jun 14, 2006 Posts: 913 New York City area	Posted on Jan 18 2018 11:20 AM Given the time period, I can see why his rather stodgy and musically short sighted teacher gave him an "F". Rock and roll was barely 10 years old. The "old guard" such as his teacher looked down on it with the usual disdain of "it's just three simple chords" or some such condescension. Well meaning, at best, but still really stupid advice. They probably forgot that their ancient parents looked down on their swing jazz and big bands. So it goes. There are times I thank my inner instincts in ignoring and subverting my youthful overseers by pursuing what I damn well felt like pursuing. Personally, I would have kept the "F". It would be like saying "'F'-bomb You" to the idiot teacher's memory. J Mo' Top
ElMonstroPorFavor Joined: Sep 01, 2006 Posts: 2754 New Orleans, LA	Posted on Jan 18 2018 11:29 AM Does nobody else find it crazy that this is a high school with a music class that not only had its students write original compositions, but graded them? Music theory was an elective for me, only 5 other people in the class, and we were basically just writing chord progressions. Same in college. — Storm Surge of Reverb: Surf & Instro Radio Last edited: Jan 18, 2018 11:45:48 Top
Sonichris Joined: Mar 06, 2006 Posts: 1911 Wear gloves - I'm in the Rockies	Posted on Jan 18 2018 11:29 AM I always figured the assignment was to write a song in a certain style, or using specific musical ideas that simply weren't met by Brian and his song. He probably deserved the F. I don't know that he ever complained about it. — "You can't tell where you're going if you don't know where you've been" Top
Chippertheripper Joined: Mar 11, 2011 Posts: 819 Semass	Posted on Jan 18 2018 12:54 PM Bom bom dip da dip. Top
spskins Joined: Feb 27, 2006 Posts: 3795 tn	Posted on Jan 18 2018 01:06 PM In the "Beach Boys:America's Band" documentary, they have a short clip with the teacher, who says that he should have given him an A. — http://www.satanspilgrims.com http://www.facebook.com/pages/Satans-Pilgrims/8210228553 https://satanspilgrims.bandcamp.com/ http://www.surfyindustries.com Top
websurfer Joined: May 14, 2007 Posts: 1753	Posted on Jan 18 2018 01:29 PM Imagine if he had just given up figuring he had no talent for music? Top
websurfer Joined: May 14, 2007 Posts: 1753	Posted on Jan 18 2018 01:39 PM Brian has credited this for part of the inspiration for Surfin', but I don't particularly hear it, except that I can fit in the lyric, "Surfin' is the only life the only way for me", but that could fit a lot of tunes. Last edited: Jan 18, 2018 13:40:37 Top
JObeast Joined: Jul 24, 2012 Posts: 2762 Finknabad, Squinkistan	Posted on Jan 18 2018 08:32 PM Sonichris wrote: JObeast wrote: But: “Surfin’ USA” was released on an album of the same name in 1963 and spent 25 weeks on the Billboard Hot 100 Chart, peaking at third place. Chuck Berry received writing credit and publishing royalties for the hit because it was based on his 1958 hit “Sweet Little Sixteen.” Maybe they should have adjusted the grade to “C”. That article is wrong. The song he wrote, and received the F on, is Surfin'. It was the first song The Beach Boys recorded. Surfing USA was a few years later, and had no resemblance to Surfin' at all. I can't believe they got the story wrong. I still think the school should stick by its instructors judgement, and balance the honor accorded both. I’m guessing he’s deceased? Maybe a “B” for that song then. — Squink Out! Top
Clarry Joined: Oct 01, 2014 Posts: 519 Streatham, London	Posted on Jan 19 2018 07:37 AM spskins wrote: In the "Beach Boys:America's Band" documentary, they have a short clip with the teacher, who says that he should have given him an A. Judging from that photo, she's aged really well Top

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