mrski
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Czech Republic
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Posted on Jul 11 2007 12:17 AM
Whatever happened to...
The Evasions?
Picked up their 'Son Of Surf' one sided picture disc album (designed by Rick Griffin) sometime in the mid-eighties... Good fun album in a Rockabilly/Poppy/Surfy kinda way... (Richard Banke's tune 'Road Agent' was later covered by Jon & The Nightriders on the 'Stampede' album).
After this one release The Evasions disappeared... Or did they? Anybody know of any more releases or what happened to them?
Bob Dalley?
Leader of the Surf Raiders for many years... A group which along with Jon & The Nightriders were responsible for 'spreading the word' in the early 1980s. Following several album and single releases on their own Surf Wax label, the band and Bob disappeared...
I read somewhere that in order to finance his book, "Surfin' Guitars: Instrumental Surf bands Of The Sixties", Bob had to sell off all of his equipment and this kind of gives a hint as to why there have never been further Surf Raider releases...
Bob's name still crops up occasionally on surf compilations ('Lost Legends' series on Sundazed) for which I assume he provideds vintages fliers, posters, business cards and such like for illustration purposes...
Is Bob still playing or involved in recording in anyway?
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wooza
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Ithaca, NY
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Posted on Jul 11 2007 12:43 AM
mrski
The Evasions?Picked up their 'Son Of Surf' one sided picture disc album (designed by Rick Griffin) sometime in the mid-eighties... Good fun album in a Rockabilly/Poppy/Surfy kinda way... (Richard Banke's tune 'Road Agent' was later covered by Jon & The Nightriders on the 'Stampede' album).
Road Agent is one of my all time favorite surf tunes, which I only have on a tape recorded off of Phil Dirt's old show. I remember trying to look into the band a long time ago, but any useful information evaded me (smirk).
But seriously, I'd love to hear the rest of their stuff. Anybody know anything more substantial about these guys?
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surfraptor
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near Amsterdam
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Posted on Jul 11 2007 02:53 AM
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mrski
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Czech Republic
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Posted on Jul 11 2007 07:02 AM
surfraptor
So the title is Son Of Soif not Son Of Surf (?)
soif = thirsty in french...
Yes I think your right about the title...
I always thought 'surf' was written as 'soif' in an effort to convey some particular kind of US accent, maybe the place where the band came from? Somewhere where they would pronounce 'surf' as 'soif'...!
Hey, I'm European you know, what do I know about US accents...?!
But 'surf' or 'soif', it's still a great listen!
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MightySurfLords
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Sparks,Nv.
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Posted on Jul 11 2007 07:55 AM
Bob Dalley tried to get ahold of me back in 1999. He tried once, and I could never get ahold of him after that. Doug Snyder said he was trying to put out another book, but hasn't heard from him either.
I have tried to find him online, for months now, but have been unsuccessful in my attemps. If you hear anything, let us know please?
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kkamphaus
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Omaha, Nebraska
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Posted on Jul 11 2007 09:20 AM
I year or so ago I bought some CDs on Ebay from Bob's personal collection.
Maybe he can be reached there...
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Brian
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Posted on Jul 11 2007 10:22 AM
I also bought a CD from Bob off eBay last year.
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mrski
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Czech Republic
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Posted on Jul 12 2007 12:20 AM
Well wherever Bob is, I'd like to thank him for all those great records which he put out all those years ago... The Surf Raiders and Jon & The Nightriders releases were always_ 'a must have'_ back then. (Time to get them all onto CD now Bob...!)
Also I'd like let him know that his book is still being read and enjoyed... At the time of publication it was one of the very few if not the only place you could read about Eddie & The Showmen, The Belairs, The Challengers, The Blazers, Kathy Marshall... and so on.
Hope Bob is still involved with 'his' music in some way.
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Klas
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Stockholm, Sweden
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Posted on Jul 12 2007 04:01 AM
Bob Dalley wrote the very kind liner notes for the Daytonas "Quarter Mile" album. Hopefully I can get my hands on a copy of his "Surfin' Guitars" book some day.
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surfraptor
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near Amsterdam
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Posted on Jul 12 2007 05:02 AM
Klas
Hopefully I can get my hands on a copy of his "Surfin' Guitars" book some day.
same here, been looking for ages...
there is a cd of course:
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surfbeatnik
Joined: Apr 01, 2007
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Sea Country, CA, USA
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Posted on Jul 12 2007 09:02 AM
Bob moved to Utah in the late 80's...here is a link to an interview he did a few years ago...his email address (then) is listed. I hope this helps.
http://www.musicdish.com/mag/index.php3?id=6579
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Tuck
Joined: Sep 02, 2006
Posts: 3166
Denver, CO
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Posted on Jul 12 2007 11:19 AM
mrski
I always thought 'surf' was written as 'soif' in an effort to convey some particular kind of US accent, maybe the place where the band came from? Somewhere where they would pronounce 'surf' as 'soif'...!
Hey, I'm European you know, what do I know about US accents...?!
But 'surf' or 'soif', it's still a great listen!
You've probably got it right! Substitution of "oi" for "er" is part of the usual US characterization of a NY accent in old movies and the theater. In the (stage?) NY dialect any syllabic "er" was "oi," so "Soif Boid," or "Do the Joik." (The "the" should be "duh"!) It's more of a schwa (uh) + y than oy in boy, etc. (In "General American" pronunciation "er" is a retroflex central vowel, if that helps!)
In this context the substitution was perhaps just considered amusing, though a pun on the French meaning is not an impossible ingredient, either.
As far as "oi" for "er," I can't say that I've noticed it myself, but at least some Manhattan folks really do say "yous(e)", though only for the plural of "you," e.g., "Are yous musicians?" I'm not sure of the real regional and temporal distribution of "oi" for "er." John Fogerty (c. 1945 Berkeley, CA) of Creedence sometimes affects "oi" in singing, but apparently lacks it in speech. He is from California and in the right generation. Most of the time I couldn't understand a word he sang, anyway; maybe he was actually singing in Gaelic.
US dialects are not really my area, but behavior of vowel + r and vowel + l in them is complex. Stage (and movie) dialects are often horribly wrong, from what I gather. Directors and dialect coaches have no idea what they're doing and the actors, if they do, are forced to do what the directors want instead, which is based on old movies. I rember once reading a sad, funny lament on Southern dialects in the movies, written by a Southerner, full of annecdotes about Southern actors who required coaching by experts from New York to sound suitably "Southern."
So, the moral is, never get your dialect information from song or film. Listen to an inteview with the vocalist or actor instead.
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Tuck
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Denver, CO
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Posted on Jul 12 2007 11:22 AM
mrski
Whatever happened to...
The Evasions?
Picked up their 'Son Of Surf' one sided picture disc album (designed by Rick Griffin) sometime in the mid-eighties... ...
That's odd. Mine has two sides. 
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bigtikidude
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Anaheim(So.Cal.)U.S.A.
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Posted on Jul 12 2007 07:13 PM
Bob Dalley did a printed on paper newsletter called the
Salt Lake city surf music appreciation society in the 90's.
But he became ill and stopped doing it.
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MelWaldorf
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Posted on Jul 12 2007 10:56 PM
pronouncing "er" as "oi" is an old style New York accent - think 1920s or 1930s. Ie. "Thirty Third Street" would be pronounced "Toidy Toid Shtreet", or, more in the cultural lingo, think of Curly's "certainly" pronounced as "cOItainly" But no one really speaks like that anymore.
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As for Bob Dalley, I played a few songs with him in a club in Salt Lake City in 1998 when I was driving out to California. I recall we played Surf Rider and Mr. Moto and a few others. He was a very nice guy, and was playing a sunburst Jaguar not unlike the one Mo Howard is holding in the picture above. Bob was sporting a better hairstyle though.
Mel
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surfraptor
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near Amsterdam
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Posted on Jul 14 2007 01:12 PM
surfbeatnik
Bob moved to Utah in the late 80's...here is a link to an interview he did a few years ago...his email address (then) is listed. I hope this helps.
http://www.musicdish.com/mag/index.php3?id=6579
on the cd booklet (1991) is an adress in Utah...dunno if he still lives there of course, besides would be inappropriate to post, no?
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