ldk
Joined: Nov 08, 2017
Posts: 368
San Francisco Bay Area
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Posted on Jan 03 2018 10:07 PM
Hi all, I've been playing guitar for about 5 years and play instrumental surf-style tunes. I've played with a few guys over the years, but my schedule doesn't really allow a commitment to the time a band would take. I have good backing tracks for what I play, and I have this desire to play in front of people. Maybe it's an attempt to make up for disastrous piano recitals as a kid.
Anyone take their solo act to a park, street corner, open mic night, cafe, etc? How'd it go?
Lee
— If I'd stop buying old guitars to fix, I might actually learn to play.
Bringing instruments back to life since 2013.
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DannySnyder
Joined: Mar 02, 2006
Posts: 11058
Berkeley, CA
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Posted on Jan 03 2018 11:17 PM
Lee, you need to check out Matt Quilter's Wave Machine.
EDIT: Actually, I can't find much web presence for it. Matt is one of our finest guitarists in the surf music world, and he compiled many many surf song backing tracks onto a machine that allows him to play lead along with them. See if you can find him out in social media land and perhaps he'll give you some tips.
— Danny Snyder
"With great reverb comes great responsibility" - Uncle Leo
Playing keys and guitar with Combo Tezeta
Formerly a guitarist in The TomorrowMen and Meshugga Beach Party
Latest surf project - Now That's What I Call SURF
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da-ron
Joined: Jan 02, 2009
Posts: 1307
The original Plymouth, UK.
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Posted on Jan 04 2018 05:43 PM
I started out on this path a while ago with the intention of busking, and got as far as assembling some backing tracks. I found getting the gear to play the backing tracks and getting a decent guitar sound was a challenge.
In the end we just went busking with the whole band (three of us) and it's really well received. A really good way to get gigs more than cash. (One of my secret pleasures is busking and seeing people that wouldn't get to gigs such as disabled people, kids and more senior people enjoying the music - I love it!)
There is a local guy who plays Shadows stuff with backing tracks - I asked him once if he played any surf and he backed away muttering, "No way, that sound is hard to get!"
Have fun with it. I reckon you could get a good circuit of outdoor cafes in the summer
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DannySnyder
Joined: Mar 02, 2006
Posts: 11058
Berkeley, CA
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Posted on Jan 04 2018 05:46 PM
Speaking of playing Solo, I've been asked lots of times to play solo - so low they didn't have to hear me
— Danny Snyder
"With great reverb comes great responsibility" - Uncle Leo
Playing keys and guitar with Combo Tezeta
Formerly a guitarist in The TomorrowMen and Meshugga Beach Party
Latest surf project - Now That's What I Call SURF
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Richard
Joined: Mar 02, 2006
Posts: 1683
Georgia
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Posted on Jan 04 2018 05:59 PM
The Johnny Zoom Hi Fi Show is also this; a guitar player backed by a machine and back tracks. He posted here once a long time ago but doesn't seem to be active (on this site, I mean). Here's a live performance and cool medley he put together.
So, yes, this can be done and if you want to you should try it. If I were to do such a thing (which I've idly entertained the notion of) I'd try smaller coffee shops and restaurants. A lot of them like the idea of having live music but you tend not to see full bands because even acoustic acts can get to be too much for the room. You can control your volume and I have had several people remark to me out of the blue over the years (especially in my car) that instrumental surf music was actually great for interacting with other people because it's enjoyable and easy to relegate to the background when you want to talk to someone.
Maybe that's not such a positive to everyone, but to these people it was. Loud live bands are obviously excluded, though I do love to stand front and center at Madeira shows and have in-depth conversations with my fellow show-goers.
— The Mystery Men?
El Capitan and The Reluctant Sadists
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montereyjack66
Joined: Jul 23, 2014
Posts: 637
LA -ish
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Posted on Jan 04 2018 08:27 PM
Last time I was in Chile we were strolling along the embarcadero in Val Pairiso and I stumbled across this guy using a beat up SG copy and an old Karaoke amp, playing all sorts of cool stuff all by himself. No drums. No tracks. Just him, and less than awesome but quite acceptable reverb. Playing a couple of classics and a bunch of other stuff I didn't recognize but was very cool nonetheless. The man was at one with the ocean. And all was well. And the tips looked to be OK too!
— mj
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Clarry
Joined: Oct 01, 2014
Posts: 519
Streatham, London
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Posted on Jan 05 2018 03:36 AM
DannySnyder wrote:
Speaking of playing Solo, I've been asked lots of times to play solo - so low they didn't have to hear me
We need more of this!!
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stratdancer
Joined: Dec 11, 2013
Posts: 2537
Akron, Ohio
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Posted on Jan 05 2018 06:04 AM
I've always admired soloist that have put together sets of backing tracks and have performed live. Never thought of doing it for surf music.
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Stormtiger
Joined: Dec 12, 2006
Posts: 2684
Ventura, CA
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Posted on Jan 05 2018 11:17 AM
I still have 2 inexpensive Zoom rhythm machines that I've put bass and drums into for about 70 tunes. Some originals, many classics and even some Slacktone, Blue Hawaiians, Bambi Molesters and Los Straitjackets. I started at open mics and then did some fun gigs at coffee shops, breweries, art shows in Redondo Beach and a Vintage Auto Museum. My friend joins me with some sax and rhythm guitar, it sounds like a full band, dead on delivery from the rhythm section every time. I used a keyboard amp and now a bass combo amp for the rhythm machine. Not as exhilarating as playing with a band but it forces you to be fairly accurate and is great for timing.
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Rob_J
Joined: Sep 29, 2007
Posts: 500
Sacto, CA
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Posted on Jan 05 2018 03:52 PM
I have done a couple of private party gigs playing solo instrumental guitar to backing tracks that I have either found online or created in Band in a Box software. The rhythm player in my band and I have also done a few gigs using drum and bass backing tracks playing both acoustic and electric instrumentals, mostly the same songs that we do with the full band.
There are those (and they know who they are) who frown on performances using backing tracks seeing it as somehow cheating. I've never understood that outlook. When playing to a backing track the performer still has to play his part well - no different than when playing with live players. In fact, playing a full set is actually more challenging than playing with a live band. With live players, if you screw up your part at any point, the band can cover your mistake and get you back in the groove, often times where no one even notices. When you screw up to a backing track it just continues with no regard to where you are, so you better be on your game to make it work.
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Nokie
Joined: Oct 06, 2008
Posts: 550
So Cal
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Posted on Jan 05 2018 06:18 PM
I've played solo surf for gigs but I'm too lazy to record backing tracks. I do it more in the Chet style. -Marty
— "Hello Girls!"
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cband
Joined: Sep 16, 2009
Posts: 23
Scottsville, NY
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Posted on Jan 06 2018 03:59 PM
Nokie wrote:
I've played solo surf for gigs but I'm too lazy to record backing tracks. I do it more in the Chet style. -Marty
Now that's very sweet! Bravo
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synchro
Joined: Feb 02, 2008
Posts: 4462
Not One-Sawn, but Two-Sawn . . . AZ.
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Posted on Jan 06 2018 06:41 PM
Nice work Nokie.
— The artist formerly known as: Synchro
When Surf Guitar is outlawed only outlaws will play Surf Guitar.
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Nokie
Joined: Oct 06, 2008
Posts: 550
So Cal
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Posted on Jan 06 2018 10:59 PM
Thanks Charles and Synchro! -Marty
— "Hello Girls!"
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synchro
Joined: Feb 02, 2008
Posts: 4462
Not One-Sawn, but Two-Sawn . . . AZ.
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Posted on Jan 06 2018 11:10 PM
I had never thought of doing Surf tunes in Chet’s style. I’ll have to work with that. Listening to the Baronics playing Bach in Surf style as I type.
— The artist formerly known as: Synchro
When Surf Guitar is outlawed only outlaws will play Surf Guitar.
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Nokie
Joined: Oct 06, 2008
Posts: 550
So Cal
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Posted on Jan 06 2018 11:58 PM
In a way I think of it as going full circle. While the Ventures version of "Walk Don't Run" isn't a surf tune, it was a significant enough guitar instro hit on the radio to influence many of the 1st wave kids to start surf bands. As we know, The Ventures were inspired by Chet's version of WDR so I've tried doing the reverse.
Playing solo instro versions of surf tunes with Chet in mind is not as exciting as a surf band playing the same numbers through blonde Fenders but it's fun to do while you're waiting for the band to show up.
— "Hello Girls!"
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synchro
Joined: Feb 02, 2008
Posts: 4462
Not One-Sawn, but Two-Sawn . . . AZ.
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Posted on Jan 07 2018 12:24 AM
I worked up the original Johnny Smith version of Walk Don’t Run about a year ago. It’s very intricate and employs some careful fingerings.
I do a lot of Chet tunes, but rarely get to play them in public. They are very demanding on everyone in the band, especially the bassist, whom must play very carefully to keep out of the way of all the baritone range stuff happening in the lower register of the guitar. I don’t know if Chet used notation or if there were plenty of session bassists in Nashville that were accustomed to his style, but it worked.
Surf is sort of a full circle move for me. When I took lessons, back in the mid sixties, the instructors taught a lot of Surf tunes. After years of trying to be the next Joe Pass and a lot of Jim Hall thrown in for good measure, I’ve found that Surf is a great way to keep my chops up and to utilize the techniques I learned in my Jazz days. It’s really quite challenging to play Surf precisely and cleanly.
— The artist formerly known as: Synchro
When Surf Guitar is outlawed only outlaws will play Surf Guitar.
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Nokie
Joined: Oct 06, 2008
Posts: 550
So Cal
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Posted on Jan 07 2018 03:26 PM
That's true, Synchro, surf tunes need more practice than many outsiders think. It's great to hear of another Chet fan here. It is unfortunate that you don't get the chance to play that style out much but if you have any youtube's of you playing that or that Johnny Smith WDR, I'd like t'see it!
— "Hello Girls!"
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synchro
Joined: Feb 02, 2008
Posts: 4462
Not One-Sawn, but Two-Sawn . . . AZ.
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Posted on Jan 07 2018 03:33 PM
Nokie wrote:
That's true, Synchro, surf tunes need more practice than many outsiders think. It's great to hear of another Chet fan here. It is unfortunate that you don't get the chance to play that style out much but if you have any youtube's of you playing that or that Johnny Smith WDR, I'd like t'see it!
I’m not really setup for video recording. The recording work we are doing for the band is keeping me hopping, not just in playing the tracks but by endless post-production tasks. Hopefully we will e d up with something I feel comfortable in releasing in the next few months, and then we have to hop through the legal hoops involved.
— The artist formerly known as: Synchro
When Surf Guitar is outlawed only outlaws will play Surf Guitar.
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Squid
Joined: Aug 22, 2010
Posts: 1018
Portland, Oregon with Insanitizers
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Posted on Jan 07 2018 09:36 PM
Marty, best Moto ever, it is a witty homage to Chet's style. I recognize that you added several of Chet's signature licks to Moto. You also managed to avoid Chet's tendency to sound mechanical. I see a lot of work in this, so Thanks!
--Conrad
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