joeybsyc
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Posted on Dec 23 2017 07:35 PM
_SOLD This is an original early 1966 Foam Green Fender Jaguar. The neck heel date is February 1966, and is one of the sought-after "dots 'n binding" models. This configuration was only produced for a short time, with large Gibson style block fretboard inlays replacing the classic pearloid dots later in 1966 as part of the CBS takeover of Fender.
The guitar is an original Foam Green custom color, but was professionally refinished about 10 years ago. The work looks stunning, and aside from the restoration of the finish, everything else appears to be original including the white 3 ply pickguard with factory sheilding plate, pots, knobs, tuners, etc. The mute plunger hole under the bridge was filled, but the Fender Mute assembly is present and will be included with sale if you wish to reinstall it. The frets are original and worn on the upper few frets, but it plays great with no fretout or dead spots anywhere on the Brazilian rosewood fretboard.
The black tolex Fender case is original, and in very good condition overall ... with working latches and hinges. A bit of tape on the handle for cushion but handle functions and is not broken. The 1960's era "Get Fenderized" pinback button shown was in the case when purchased and I have researched it to be a vintage original Fender promo item. It WILL be included with the sale, however the various guitar straps shown in pics are not included.
Original early '66 Jags with dots and binding are increasingly hard to find, and this color? Just about impossible to find for sale at any price. What more can I say? If you've always wanted a REAL Custom Color vintage Fender but never had the $20,000+ to buy one, this is your chance to own a stunner at a fraction of that cost.
Take a look at the detailed photos and feel free to ask any questions. I have owned this guitar for Many years and it is hard to part with it.. This is the first time it has been offered for sale. Many more pics available upon request._
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JakeDobner
Joined: Feb 26, 2006
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Seattle
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Posted on Dec 23 2017 07:58 PM
Is there evidence of the original finish in any of the pockets?
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JakeDobner
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Seattle
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Posted on Dec 23 2017 08:00 PM
The neck and headstock were refinished as well?
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joeybsyc
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Posted on Dec 23 2017 11:52 PM
The neck and headstock were refinished as well, but as you can see above, the neck date stamp was not restored or removed. You can see what the neck pocket looks like in the pics above. I was told the guitar was refinished in a different color years ago, but had lots of evidence of being Foam Green originally so it was restored back to that color, using the bits of original paint found inside to get the color match perfect. If you look around closely you can still find traces of what appears to be the original finish. The white 3 ply Custom Color-only pickguard is original, as are the pickups, tuners, pots, trem, bridge, tremolo bar, wiring, knobs, sliders, switches, etc. Basically the entire guitar is original with the exception of the finish.
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joeybsyc
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Posted on Dec 24 2017 05:40 PM
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joeybsyc
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Posted on Dec 25 2017 11:04 AM
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joeybsyc
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Posted on Dec 25 2017 01:52 PM
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SurfBeat
Joined: Dec 31, 2008
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Riverside, CA
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Posted on Dec 26 2017 06:15 PM
JakeDobner wrote:
Is there evidence of the original finish in any of the pockets?
Jake, you and Chris often have more information regarding dating older Fender equipment than I, so, I need some help.
Today a friend brought over a 65 Jag along with the seller and wanted my opinion of its vintage. Like the Jag in the photo of this ad, there were no routing marks in the cavities which for Strats, (which is the only guitar I know anything about) is the tell sale sign of a non 50's to early 70's Strat.
So Jake, do you know if the same holds true for a Jag: No body cavity routing marks = non 50's to early 70's Jag?
If you can get back with me quickly I would appreciate it. I advised my pal to pass until I can do more research. I don't want to see him dishing out $4000.00 for an imitation 65. Of course $4k would be more than fair if it is the real deal.
Thanks
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JakeDobner
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Seattle
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Posted on Dec 26 2017 07:21 PM
$4000 is way too much for a '65 Jag unless it is a custom color, so let that be the first test.
You shouldn't expect to see a body date. ES might be a mark you expect, but not guaranteed, to see if it is a custom color.
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SurfBeat
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Riverside, CA
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Posted on Dec 26 2017 08:42 PM
JakeDobner wrote:
$4000 is way too much for a '65 Jag unless it is a custom color, so let that be the first test.
You shouldn't expect to see a body date. ES might be a mark you expect, but not guaranteed, to see if it is a custom color.
Jake, VG's Price Guide shows $3600-$4600 for common colors, (non burst) and $5000-$6500 for rare colors. The one my friend is interested in is Oly white, in my opinion probably a common color, so that's my starting point for fair price.
Do you still take the position $4k is way too much? I'm a Strat man, so, I am in uncharted waters.
Do you know anything about the routing in the cavities that absent routing, the body i probably made post 90's?
Seller is putting pressure on my buddy, but this guitar scares me. It is way to easy to buy rubber stamps and pass a new guitar off as a 60's.
Being a retired cop, maybe I am just too suspicious.
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JakeDobner
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Seattle
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Posted on Dec 26 2017 09:09 PM
White with original finish is fine for $4000. Sunburst would be a good buy at $3000 starting to pay too much at $3500. '62s are that $3500-4000 range.
There are prices dealers can fetch, and there are prices a guy on the street should get. The guy on the streets guitar is not worth dealer pricing. And when you see a guitar online for a high price always ask, this guitar hasn't sold, what are these selling at?
Feel free to send me photos, pretty easy to tell if original if the right shots are there. Faked neck stamps can't be hidden. It would take a master to pass that off (because something else will be wrong).
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