DHughes
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Posted on Dec 19 2016 12:59 PM
Hello! What is a reasonable beginning guitar/amp/speaker combo for someone inspired by surf music (specifically the Trashwomen) and wants to give it a try? Have little guitar experience; can play a few chords and House of the Rising Sun; but that's about it
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SamDBL
Joined: Sep 19, 2016
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Tampa
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Posted on Dec 19 2016 01:22 PM
I vote for Fender Super Champ XD. Has onboard Reverb (and several other effects). As well as decent modeling of some classic fender amps. It actually sounds really good, as opposed to most of the beginner/medium digital modeling amps, as it has a tube power section. The current version (XD2) is kind of pricey for a beginning amp at $375. But the first generation sound as good, and can be found used all over the place (CL or online) for under $200. Here's one on Reverb for $190
Super Champ
They are quite small. But gigs have been done with them (assuming there is a decent PA)
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JakeDobner
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Seattle
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Posted on Dec 19 2016 02:08 PM
For guitar, I'd go for a Squier Jaguar:
This is the Trashwomen guitar of choice.
I'm going to make an expensive suggestion here, a used Fender Princeton Reverb either the '65 or '68 reissues. Link to the '68
Here is why... The Trashwomen's sound is turning a Fender amp up loud and applying reverb and going to town on that guitar and amp. The Princeton Reverb has the best/drippiest reverb of all the combo fenders and is going to get loud enough to be very useful to you. It will breakup just like the Trashwomen's sound.
You could spend $375 for a new beginner amp and then in a year need to upgrade. For $700 used, you get a professional amp that gets you where you want to go today and you save the $375 of a beginner amp.
Another suggestion would be the Fender Excelsior, but you would need to buy reverb to go along with that one. This is one of my favorite Fender amps in recent times. For the Reverb there are tons of decent pedals you can buy these days and that is covered in many threads on this board.
You need something you can just plug in and turn up and bash out chords in the Trashwomen style.
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Tqi
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Posted on Dec 19 2016 03:10 PM
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CrazyAces
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Nashville, TN.
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Posted on Dec 19 2016 03:30 PM
Another vote for the Squier Jaguar
A whole lot of guitar for the money and genre specific.
For an amp and great value, bang for buck, one could look at the Boss Katana amplifiers.
The 50 watt with a 12" speaker and a ton of effects is $199.00 brand new.
It's capabilities could take one from home practice to actual on stage playing and Boss has a reputation for well made products.
Cheers,
Jeff
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Teiscofan
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Ontario
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Posted on Dec 19 2016 04:34 PM
I agree with the Squire Jaguar. I have one and its Greattttt! I like it much much more than the Squire Jazzmaster. For living room practice I run it through a Roland cube. Good bang for the buck.
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Squid
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Portland, Oregon with Insanitizers
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Posted on Dec 19 2016 07:02 PM
Tqi wrote:
.. For used amps, the Vox Pathfinder 15R is one of my favorite solid-state amps..
After replacing its Vox speaker with a Weber import 8" ceramic I enjoy the Vox Pathfinder 15R I bought for $80 from a Guitar Center. The original Vox speaker was harsh with clean tones. I sold it on Ebay for about what the Weber cost me. The built-in reverb is far too weak for a surf tone so I add a pedal. Its overdrive somewhat resembles the Vox AC15 and is worth the bucks I spent on this by itself.
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Tqi
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Posted on Dec 19 2016 08:07 PM
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DonKiyote
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Kent
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Posted on Dec 20 2016 03:07 AM
JakeDobner wrote:
I'm going to make an expensive suggestion here, a used Fender Princeton Reverb either the '65 or '68 reissues. The Princeton Reverb has the best/drippiest reverb of all the combo fenders and is going to get loud enough to be very useful to you. It will breakup just like the Trashwomen's sound.
You could spend $375 for a new beginner amp and then in a year need to upgrade. For $700 used, you get a professional amp that gets you where you want to go today and you save the $375 of a beginner amp.
I completely agree - I went through a number of amps before settling on a Princeton 65 - overall I could have saved myself money by going straight there - and if you decide it's all not for you then you would probably get a decent price if you sold it!
I do personally prefer Jazzmaster to Jag - but I think I might be in a minority
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Badger
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Wisconsin
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Posted on Dec 20 2016 07:40 AM
Another vote for a Princeton Reverb; the '68 Silver Face reissue version has a tiny bit of a lower-mid bump over the Blackface PRRI, only due to a tiny tweak in the tone stack. But either one is my go-to amp when trying out a guitar in the local shop. Smooth, and the on-board reverb is lovely.
— Wes
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DISCLAIMER: The above is opinion/suggestion only & should not be used for mission planning/navigation, tweaking of instruments, beverage selection, or wardrobe choices.
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OnedinGiraldo
Joined: Jul 17, 2016
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Sacramento
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Posted on Dec 20 2016 08:58 AM
I agree, the Princeton Reverb 68 Silver Face reissue. It is my go to amp for everything: home use, practice, etc. Only when playing a bigger venue that was not able to mic, did I use a different amp. For home use it is perfect, at low volume you are not losing much in the sense of tone, low, miss or highs.
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Syndicateofsurf
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Northern Ohio
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Posted on Dec 20 2016 09:18 AM
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Tqi
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Posted on Dec 20 2016 10:16 AM
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montereyjack66
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LA -ish
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Posted on Dec 20 2016 12:15 PM
Practice is pretty key. Jag is the bomb, but it is possible to play on at least a few other guitars if you squint a little. If you are on a budget, given that you are at the house of the rising sun stage, I might suggest getting a Mustang I,II,or III for an amp. These have a selection of amp models built in which, while not as good as the real thing, are not at all horrible and will allow you to sample various amps and see which ones speak to you without having to drop a lot of coin to start. Good luck!
mj
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DHughes
Joined: Dec 19, 2016
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Posted on Dec 20 2016 01:29 PM
Whoa! I can't believe the number of great responses I've received in less than 24 hr! Thank you to everyone. I am ready to go...Nightmare at the Drag, baby!!
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Syndicateofsurf
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Northern Ohio
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Posted on Dec 20 2016 01:51 PM
Well done- you went from house of the rising sun to obscure reference in 24 hours. A new land speed record.
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Tqi
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Posted on Dec 20 2016 01:56 PM
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Richard
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Georgia
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Posted on Dec 20 2016 03:04 PM
I'm with Jake on the recommendation to go straight to a band practice-worthy amp. The Princeton Reverb reissues mentioned would be great, but I also second the recommendations for the Excelsior based on my experience. Since Jeff (CrazyAces) recommended the Boss Katana, I'd go that route in the price range, or take a look at the Monoprice brand 15 watt 1x12 amp. A friend told me a few days ago that he'd scored one for under $200 and was loving it.
The Vox Pathfinders are nice. I used mine for a few practices at a bandmate's house but mine has actually crapped out. If you're going to go upwards of a couple hundred bucks on a starter amp, I'd highly recommend saving that and heading straight toward one of the better options mentioned.
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Tqi
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Posted on Dec 20 2016 03:28 PM
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Badger
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Wisconsin
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Posted on Dec 20 2016 03:45 PM
DHughes wrote:
Hello! What is a reasonable beginning guitar/amp/speaker combo for someone inspired by surf music (specifically the Trashwomen) and wants to give it a try?
Getting away from gear for a minute, if you're generally new to instrumental surf music and want a direction for some practice, read my post here, 2nd from the bottom, 2nd paragraph.
And don't forget to breathe.
— Wes
SoCal ex-pat with a snow shovel
DISCLAIMER: The above is opinion/suggestion only & should not be used for mission planning/navigation, tweaking of instruments, beverage selection, or wardrobe choices.
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