I thought they did a great job of showing Rick breaking. The whole "Get my ax" thing was very well done. Same with the marker and Carl's arm. Rick is broken. Job accomplished.

It has nothing to do with killing good guys or show favorites either. I don't even want to see Negan get it in such graphic detail, and I REALLY want him to get it. But by all means, squash all the zombies heads you want in new a creative ways.

Maybe it was too real. If it was more cartoonish, I would have been ok with it. Maybe a "Kabong" sound, or something like that.

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So what do you zom-heads think of FTWD? Is it lame? Derivative? Wussy?

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I am still confused by the reaction of the death scenes being too violent. I'm not directing that to anyone, in particular. As I am seeing it all over the internet. My take is that it's a zombie/horror show. It can't possibly get too gory. I, personally, find the aspect of children being turned into zombies and then dispatched to be much more disturbing. But even then, I'm not bothered. That's almost entirely why I'm tuning in. To be shocked and amazed by bloody gore. As is the case with any zombie movie I watch. The story is nice. But show me new and imaginative ways for characters to bite it. Better yet, make it a character I care about.

FTWD is nowhere near the show that TWD is. It's extremely slow. With even less emphasis on zombies. The characters, for the most part, are extremely dislikable. The only one I liked was the old man, and he died in kind of an unclimactic, nonsensical way (he was the tough guy that had been through all sorts of horrors in his life, and knew how to handle the situation better than anyone.. Then he abruptly goes mad because everything is too much. Huh?).

The last season was much better than the first. But again, it's relying on the formula that every person left alive is a backstabbing scumbag plot device, right off the bat. Very contrived.

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Clarry wrote:

My main grievance with the episode was the extension of the previous season's cliffhanger. That can definitely equate to "torture porn".

Apart from them showing Glenn's battered head, which apparently is in the comic, I can't remember much other gore rather than bloodstains. Is it graphic to see someone swinging a bat and here a crunch? I don't know. I do know, in the past I've revisited a movie that I thought was graphic only to find that my imagination had filled in loads more afterwards. That's why I prefer "less is more" in movie violence.

Anyway, after watching this episode my wife and I decided we needed light entertainment, so watched the new film "Grimsby" by Sacha Baron Cohen (of Borat fame), mainly because we know he can be outrageously funny. Two men hiding from assassins inside an elephant's vagina whilst a male elephant decides to mate it...that's graphic!!! Ridiculously stupid tongue-in-cheek film.

Hahaaaa! Clarry! The "contrast" with a Sacha Baron Coen movie is the best contrast you can have after this episode!
I also felt it too much in torturing the viewer in all the happened aspects.
I also like it more when "unreal" Zombies are killed.

Anyway TWD rules!

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Ha ha! Thank you Hallmark SW...Grimsby is a mad film, and Im not offended being from tbat part of the UK.

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I thought I'd killed this thread by mentioning an Elephsnt's capacious vagina. 25 square foot apparently.

Daniel was played by Ruben Blades, the musician. He was a very cool character, I don't know why the killed him off so soon. I guess they couldn't afford to pay him... and they needed a way to burn down the hacienda.

Been watching Guillermo del Toro's The Strain. I read the trilogy of books and loved how the first episodes followed it closely, or at least captured the horrible creepy feel. By Season 3 they are completely off track from the novels but I guess TV is a different media, isn't it? I like the characters a lot, even Quintus/Quinlan has mettle and soul.

I hate the way FTWD spends so much effort showing the inner conflict of most of the characters, esp. Travis Manawa. But now they are all self-conscious killers (end of 2nd season) and so things will go downhill precipitously. SHould be fun to watch!

SamDBL wrote:

I am still confused by the reaction of the death scenes being too violent. I'm not directing that to anyone, in particular. As I am seeing it all over the internet. My take is that it's a zombie/horror show. It can't possibly get too gory. I, personally, find the aspect of children being turned into zombies and then dispatched to be much more disturbing. But even then, I'm not bothered. That's almost entirely why I'm tuning in. To be shocked and amazed by bloody gore. As is the case with any zombie movie I watch. The story is nice. But show me new and imaginative ways for characters to bite it. Better yet, make it a character I care about.

FTWD is nowhere near the show that TWD is. It's extremely slow. With even less emphasis on zombies. The characters, for the most part, are extremely dislikable. The only one I liked was the old man, and he died in kind of an unclimactic, nonsensical way (he was the tough guy that had been through all sorts of horrors in his life, and knew how to handle the situation better than anyone.. Then he abruptly goes mad because everything is too much. Huh?).

The last season was much better than the first. But again, it's relying on the formula that every person left alive is a backstabbing scumbag plot device, right off the bat. Very contrived.

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