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Syndicateofsurf Joined: Oct 08, 2014 Posts: 1073 Northern Ohio	Posted on Nov 18 2016 12:53 PM To get the full effect you have to watch it using a full face crash helmet. — Da Vinci Flinglestein, The quest for the Tone, the tone of the Quest The Syndicate of Surf on YouTube http://www.syndicateofsurf.com/ http://sharawaji.com/ http://surfrockradio.com/ Top
JakeDobner Joined: Feb 26, 2006 Posts: 12159 Seattle	Posted on Nov 18 2016 02:26 PM crumble wrote: I texted a friend.. He said voice over. We did this. In the negative space before one of our songs, we had our engineer do a George McFly impersonation. Top
djangodeadman Joined: Jan 25, 2007 Posts: 1568 Brighton UK	Posted on Nov 19 2016 04:57 AM da-ron wrote: Clarry wrote: Csn you get a couple of acting buddies to rerecord the dialogue? I'm not sure I have any acting buddies! Are you offering your services? You may not, but there will certainly be actors in Plymouth. Try this place, for a start: Plymouth University. Alternatively, you could try local Am-Dram groups, such as this: The Tamaritans. — Los Fantasticos Last edited: Nov 19, 2016 04:59:01 Top
crumble Joined: Sep 09, 2008 Posts: 3158 Guildford England	Posted on Nov 19 2016 07:18 AM I bet the Space Agency wear astronaut helmets when they record Top
da-ron Joined: Jan 02, 2009 Posts: 1307 The original Plymouth, UK.	Posted on Nov 21 2016 09:19 AM Thanks for the suggestions, but taking the easiest course of action, I'll probably just lop the sample off the beginning. It's not exactly a work of art. Certainly learned a lesson when it comes to nabbing film samples for my songs. Or at least, nabbing film samples and trying to upload them to iTunes. — http://thewaterboarders.bandcamp.com/ Top
bigtikidude Joined: Feb 27, 2006 Posts: 25578 Anaheim(So.Cal.)U.S.A.	Posted on Nov 21 2016 10:04 AM Use obscure movies like MoAM did. — Jeff(bigtikidude) Top
tahitijack Joined: Nov 03, 2006 Posts: 693 San Clemente, CA	Posted on Nov 21 2016 10:30 AM Does not solve the copy right protection problem. Even "obscure" films are copyrighted. — Happy Sunsets! Top
Syndicateofsurf Joined: Oct 08, 2014 Posts: 1073 Northern Ohio	Posted on Nov 21 2016 10:47 AM tahitijack wrote: Does not solve the copy right protection problem. Even "obscure" films are copyrighted. True that. Another 2 cents from me- One of the immediate benefits with signing on with Sharawaji was the assurances, in writing that any material covered by my band would have the copy-write issues addressed. Mike is all about getting rights, protecting my rights ie original material and a myriad of other legal nuances. I know he has posted on this topic in the past. It's not just the song or other intellectual property, it's the country published or played in, which types of right are assigned, duration etc. And there are whole threads on this site addressing these issues. And yes, it can be pretty daunting. — Da Vinci Flinglestein, The quest for the Tone, the tone of the Quest The Syndicate of Surf on YouTube http://www.syndicateofsurf.com/ http://sharawaji.com/ http://surfrockradio.com/ Top
Mike75 Joined: Jul 28, 2013 Posts: 220 Hong Kong	Posted on Nov 21 2016 11:07 AM That type of blanket copyright law is antiquated. It should be as easy to clear a sample from a movie as it is to record a cover of a song. There is just no easy way to do it. Your best options are as follows: Cut the samples completely for any retail or distributed release Only if you want to take a gamble, produce a very limited run of CDs with samples for sale direct to fans at gigs and keep them well away from distributors and retailers. Have very few assets. Wait for cease and desist letters If any lawsuit happens use it as marketing material. Even if you re-record the samples with voice actors you would probably also be infringing copyright in the sequence of the words. I dealt with MGM recently and got a similar blanket rejection letter. — Sharawaji Records - UK Registered Record Label Dedicated To Surf, Instro, Reverb and Twang DripFeed.net - the Network for Surf Music *Join Now* Surf Rock Radio - the World’s Number 1 Surf Music Station Surf Music Radio - the World's Number 2 Surf Music Station Monstromental - Pulp Horror Instro Surf Radio Top
Brian Joined: Feb 25, 2006 Posts: 19298 Des Moines, Iowa, USA	Posted on Nov 21 2016 01:13 PM I'm actually quite surprised any MoAM? albums are on iTunes. It looks like their earlier material is not, which may explain that. — Site dude - S3 Agent #202 Need help with the site? SG101 FAQ - Send me a private message - Email me "It starts... when it begins" -- Ralf Kilauea Top
Levis_Original_Music_101 Joined: Jun 01, 2015 Posts: 12 Bali	Posted on Nov 22 2016 11:51 PM Not sticking up for W.B .., but there is is no reason any company , or artist should be obligated to release any samples .., just like you are not obligated to release anything of yours. Just sayin' Top
JakeDobner Joined: Feb 26, 2006 Posts: 12159 Seattle	Posted on Nov 23 2016 12:41 AM Levis_Original_Music_101 wrote: Not sticking up for W.B .., but there is is no reason any company , or artist should be obligated to release any samples .., just like you are not obligated to release anything of yours. Just sayin' Yes, absolutely. Top
da-ron Joined: Jan 02, 2009 Posts: 1307 The original Plymouth, UK.	Posted on Nov 23 2016 06:15 AM Levis_Original_Music_101 wrote: Not sticking up for W.B .., but there is is no reason any company , or artist should be obligated to release any samples .., just like you are not obligated to release anything of yours. Just sayin' I wasn't expecting WB to release anything, least of all for free. I was expecting some kind of dialogue over what their terms were, the blanket ban approach was a surprise. Because deep down I know that if Justin Bieber wanted a sample their response wouldn't be an instant 'no'. — http://thewaterboarders.bandcamp.com/ Top
crumble Joined: Sep 09, 2008 Posts: 3158 Guildford England	Posted on Nov 23 2016 11:03 AM Reminds me of that popular saying of a few years ago "you don't have the authority". I haven't a clue where that saying came from though, do you? Top
Ariel Joined: Aug 29, 2009 Posts: 1556 Israel	Posted on Nov 23 2016 11:56 AM crumble wrote: Reminds me of that popular saying of a few years ago "you don't have the authority". I haven't a clue where that saying came from though, do you? When the NSA started cracking down on your freedoms, by insisting on the totally un-logical habit of searching people before boarding planes. "get your hands off me officer!" Top
crumble Joined: Sep 09, 2008 Posts: 3158 Guildford England	Posted on Nov 23 2016 12:36 PM DreadInBabylon wrote: When the NSA started cracking down on your freedoms, by insisting on the totally un-logical habit of searching people before boarding planes. "get your hands off me officer!" Yes that kind of thing, actually that sounds like a line from one of the Carry-On movies! I think "you don't have the authority" comes from a British comedy called "The Office" a program I have never watched even though I like Ricky Gervais. It's a catch phrase which took off like a rocket in my local area. In any case it suits da-ron's dilemma. Last edited: Nov 23, 2016 14:06:38 Top
Clarry Joined: Oct 01, 2014 Posts: 519 Streatham, London	Posted on Nov 24 2016 05:22 AM da-ron wrote: Levis_Original_Music_101 wrote: Not sticking up for W.B .., but there is is no reason any company , or artist should be obligated to release any samples .., just like you are not obligated to release anything of yours. Just sayin' I wasn't expecting WB to release anything, least of all for free. I was expecting some kind of dialogue over what their terms were, the blanket ban approach was a surprise. Because deep down I know that if Justin Bieber wanted a sample their response wouldn't be an instant 'no'. Because he'd punch them in the face. Top

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