I had the good fortune in the mid 60's to see Randy Holden perform with the Fender IV, who became the Sons of Adam. Jac Ttanna (formerly Joe Kooken) was the rhythm guitarist for both bands & Michael Stuart, who was the drummer for the SOA, later played drums on Love's "Da Capo" & "Forever Changes" albums.
Seeing Randy & Jac onstage again took me back in time more than 50 years to Darby Park near Inglewood, where I first heard MarGaya. I was hoping Randy & Jac would have thrown a curve at the audience by playing SOA's version of Mister You're A Better Man Than I. Maybe next time they get together. Carl Belknap (drummer for the original Eliminators & Glass)
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Posted on Aug 23 2016 02:55 AM
You are sooooo lucky!!! — |
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Posted on Aug 23 2016 12:27 PM
Hello Carl, It was good to meet and talk to you at the convention. —Jeff(bigtikidude) |
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Posted on Aug 23 2016 12:40 PM
Having Randy and Jac play at the SG101 was tremendous!!! Randy's grin showed real pleasure and appreciation. there's nothing like hearing a song direct from it's source. —Buy Endless Drummer @ Bandcamp |
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Posted on Aug 23 2016 01:33 PM
I'm really hoping this is going to spark something. Too good for a one-off that only us surf nerds get to see — |
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Posted on Aug 23 2016 04:56 PM
inafloor wrote:
Wow, Carl, this has to be a great memory. Did you get a chance to talk to Randy about that ol' Inglewood performance and if so, what were his comments? Did he remember playing Darby Park? -Marty —"Hello Girls!" Last edited: Aug 23, 2016 16:57:17 |
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Posted on Aug 27 2016 04:30 PM
Everybody Up at the Convention! —Ivan |
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Posted on Aug 27 2016 04:31 PM
Margaya at the Convention from FB - video by Iggy Maria Crispy: https://www.facebook.com/iggymaria.crispi/videos/940905009372593/ —Ivan |
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Posted on Aug 27 2016 04:32 PM
Does anybody know if Randy tuned his guitar down to D for this show, as he says he used to do back in the '60s? —Ivan |
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Posted on Aug 27 2016 05:49 PM
IvanP wrote:
He def. uses a drop D on the above clips. (I'm not quite sure if that is what you meant? |
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Posted on Aug 27 2016 06:05 PM
That was great! Thank you! |
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Posted on Aug 27 2016 06:07 PM
Matt Quilter told me they were tuned to E flat at the convention. |
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Posted on Aug 28 2016 06:21 AM
Wow! That was great. Thanks for posting Ivan. It's like he stepped through a time warp from 1964. Is he doing surf gigs regularly, or was this a one-off just for the fun of it? |
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Posted on Aug 28 2016 10:24 AM
Strat-o-rama, Randy hasn't played surf music in 50 years! He actually said that on stage. I had an exchange with Matt Quilter on FB yesterday about a lot of these things, and Matt was VERY helpful in clarifying all sorts of things - here it is, for the non-FB people: Me: Matt, do you know if Randy tuned his guitar down to D, as he used to do in the '60s? Matt: We were all in Eb. Randy claims that a lot of the original recordings were sped up, and that the SG101 set is closer to the original tempos. Listening to the orig Everybody Up!, I can believe it. Plus, us old guys can't play quite as fast as we used to (Dusty notwithstanding). Me: Interesting! Yes, I believe it about Everybody Up in particular. I'm surprised you didn't go down to D, though, like Randy says he used to do back in the day. Anyway, thank you, Matt! Matt: I think Randy settled on Eb as a default tuning many years ago, rather than D. Good thing, as my instruments would not be happy in D! That Lucite Strat he played is punishing in any key, and contributed a lot to that low-end clarity. He has several Strats, but that one was the dog's bollocks for this outing. Me: Thank you so much for that info, Matt! Do you know if that's an original '70s lucite Strat, or some sort of a reissue/replica? It must weigh a ton! I guess he uses it for the particularly powerful sound? Matt: It has no logo on it. He said it was custom built for him, but not sure when. And, yes, it weighs a ton! Me: Cool, thanks again!!! —Ivan |
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Posted on Aug 28 2016 11:07 AM
I had a Lucite Strat that in a moment of madness I God rid of it about 15 years ago. Matt is absolutely right on the weight as mine weighed a ton! But siounded fantastic! I am not obsolete, I am RETRO.... Last edited: Aug 28, 2016 11:13:29 |
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Posted on Aug 30 2016 07:26 AM
Thanks much, Ivan. That was very informative. I've looked at several of the videos now. Randy really still has it all. He knocked it out of the ballpark! It would be great if he would do more surf music gigs. |
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