panz
Joined: Jul 22, 2016
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Posted on Jul 22 2016 04:09 AM
I know there are typical surf drumming patterns but what about surf STRUM patterns? I'd like to know what are the most common surf strum patterns (in terms of down/upstrokes) and how they match with drumming...(note: I can't figure out strum patterns by just listening to records)
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Badger
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Wisconsin
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Posted on Jul 22 2016 01:10 PM
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el_camello
Joined: Jul 04, 2010
Posts: 369
Ottawa
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Posted on Jul 22 2016 02:41 PM
I agree that it can be hard to pick out the strum patterns. It's easier for me to learn the lead by ear than the strums. Very interested to hear what others will have to say. Here are some I use often.
This one is really useful. The only really important part are the accents on the 1, 2& and 4. You can play around that and find many patterns.
D u d D u d D u
1 & 2 & 3 & 4 &
Note the downstroke accent on the 2&. You could use an upstroke too depending how the song feels. I find getting the hang of playing the accented 2& with either a downstroke or an upstroke to have been one of the most useful surf rhythm guitar skill I have. You could also use the same accent pattern with just downstrokes.
The following one is a pretty starting point for me. You can play around alot with this one by adding a rake on the 2& going into the 3. I like to add left hand percussive mutes to this one (can't get the "code block" to work, the -'s are just there for the spacing):
D - D U - U D -
1 & 2 & 3 & 4 &
I use this one and variations of for Atlantics' style strumming and gallops:
D duD duD duD du
1 & 2 & 3 & 4 &
Can't underestimate the ska pattern. Fender IV used it alot.
x U x U x U x U
1 & 2 & 3 & 4 &
— -Pierre
The Obsidians! (Ottawa surf)
The Obsidians debut EP
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josheboy
Joined: Mar 13, 2009
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Twin Cities, MN
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Posted on Jul 22 2016 03:23 PM
El Camello's patterns are all great. Thanks for that input!
Try listening to only the drums in a lot of surf tracks you are trying to play. That's what you want to play along with. Ignore the lead guitar until you get the pattern in your head. Also, break up the song into sections. Bite sized chunks are easier to digest
A lot of surf drums hit the snare on the "2& 4" beats (meaning a hit on the 2, a hit on the "&" between the 2 and 3, and a hit on the 4). Miserlou and Hava Nagila rhythm patterns are basically heavy strums on those hits.
--DU--D-
1&2&3&4&
Some guitarists throw a strum on the 1 as well. Sometimes I'll hit the 1, rake the 2, quick strum up then mute the 2&, then hit the 4 (either up or down stroke). I do that to break up the song a little and keep it more insteresting.
Dick Dale's Surfbeat is the same, but they hit on the "1& 3" beats instead of the 2& 4.
DU--D---
1&2&3&4&
"The Gallop" is also used a lot. El Camillo posted it above. I'm just repeating it because I think it's super important in the surf repertoire.
D duD duD duD du
1 & 2 & 3 & 4 &
I do this one a lot. It'll work with a lot of surf songs. I do variations on the accents or rakes will skip a strum. This one works with songs like Bullwinkle pt 2 (with a rake on the 2).
D-DU-UDU
1&2&3&4&
I hope this helps!
Welcome to surf rhythm!!!
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ludobag
Joined: Jun 05, 2010
Posts: 620
at south of
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Posted on Aug 08 2016 05:33 PM
Help why big D and Little d ?
The first
DudDudDu Is for accent ?
And if it Is eight note the mouvement Is not regulare ?
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el_camello
Joined: Jul 04, 2010
Posts: 369
Ottawa
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Posted on Aug 09 2016 08:32 AM
Yes, I wrote D for accent.
The DudDudDu you can count 12312312 to get that surf feel.
— -Pierre
The Obsidians! (Ottawa surf)
The Obsidians debut EP
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ludobag
Joined: Jun 05, 2010
Posts: 620
at south of
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Posted on Aug 09 2016 09:08 AM
Tanks Pierre Will try it
I focus on rythm at This time cause in fews weeks i rebeguin to play in band (ten Years since the last) and even in surf we need rythme in beetween two tremolo picking
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