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Mr_Reverb63 Joined: Jul 10, 2007 Posts: 916 San Pablo, CA	Posted on Jul 09 2008 02:36 AM FenderShowman63 8) It has nothing to do w/D.B.Drums. But its a Nice Snare isn't it? — -Zanti Instagram: My IG Combo Tezeta IG Top
SecretAsianMan Joined: Jul 07, 2008 Posts: 19 Los Angeles, CA	Posted on Jul 09 2008 03:53 AM Klas Not surf but the drumming heard on many tracks by Terry & the Bunnys are among my all time favorite. Don't know how much or in what way they actually used two bass drums since I can't recall noticing it. YES, I second that! — Ignorance in Music is Ignorance in the Soul Top
bigtikidude Joined: Feb 27, 2006 Posts: 25578 Anaheim(So.Cal.)U.S.A.	Posted on Jul 09 2008 11:29 AM The New/old drummer for the Surf Kings uses double bass pedals for one bass drum, though its only for a few songs, and they are far from Trad. — Jeff(bigtikidude) Top
Abe Joined: Mar 12, 2008 Posts: 1237 Bay Area	Posted on Jul 09 2008 04:02 PM Mr_Reverb63 FenderShowman63 8) It has nothing to do w/D.B.Drums. But its a Nice Snare isn't it? Relax man. Ur the only guy here who Trips balls over this stuff — The Deadbeats Top
Mr_Reverb63 Joined: Jul 10, 2007 Posts: 916 San Pablo, CA	Posted on Jul 09 2008 04:18 PM hahaha i know man i just like messing with u haha — -Zanti Instagram: My IG Combo Tezeta IG Top
Abe Joined: Mar 12, 2008 Posts: 1237 Bay Area	Posted on Jul 09 2008 04:38 PM Ok. It just seems like u wher pissed. But whatever. — The Deadbeats Top
Abe Joined: Mar 12, 2008 Posts: 1237 Bay Area	Posted on Jul 09 2008 04:38 PM Shit! The pic is too Big. — The Deadbeats Top
65acrolite Joined: May 22, 2008 Posts: 68 San Pablo, CA	Posted on Jul 11 2008 03:02 AM I've been thinking of incorporating a double pedal into the sound of the Deadbeats but then again we don't have any originals of our own. But our very own Wooza has already started making up some kickass original stuff. Anyways Ive had ideas for making a heavy thrash/punk surf instro for a while now since I'm also into metal/thrash etc. bands but I think that it'll end up sounding not so surfy, but then again I don't really know yet. I'll definetely have to bash heads with Mr. Reverb63 since he too is also into the same stuff. Top
BoardwalkerJeff Joined: Jan 24, 2008 Posts: 376 Santa Monica, Ca.	Posted on Jul 29 2008 11:00 PM Trey Cool from the Ultras used the two-kick set-up and played it tastefully. Two kicks have been around since the forties, these guys come to mind... Louie Bellson Ed Shaughnessy Even Buddy Rich did a show with them in 1949. As far as Surf It all depends on what era you want to honor I guess. If it's done tastefully with a slice of humor I'm all for it. — Jeff Utterback Top
brandonio Joined: Jan 23, 2007 Posts: 885 Indianapolis, In	Posted on Jul 29 2008 11:40 PM The double bass pedal has been around since the 1780's or something like that.Some Russian dude invented it from what my memory tells me.Doesn't Prarie Prince of Dick Dale fame use them.I say double bass sounds like a good idea for surf.It's not that surf needs any help in the dynamic department,but it could add so much to the pulse and liveliness to a driving song.As a musician it's always good to face a challenge.Those who are opposed are probably afraid of such a challenge.I personally don't use one in my set,but I'm seriously considering it.Back when i started playing drums in '84 I had one and became pretty good at controlling both pedals. i personally don't think it would throw things off in surf music,after all surf is the grandfather to metal and hard rock music .The music that has been famously known for it's usage.It's time for a little change up in the surf music world if you ask me. — Reverb, It's A Way Of Life! Top
zak Joined: Sep 24, 2007 Posts: 2728	Posted on Jul 29 2008 11:41 PM This post has been removed by the author. Last edited: Sep 23, 2009 18:50:44 Top
drumsdick Joined: May 29, 2007 Posts: 224 Central CT, USA	Posted on Aug 24 2008 12:27 PM Hey All, Here's more on the hardware side for the double kick enthusiast: image More info. here: http://www.sleishman.com/html/twin_pedals/index.html — *Dick B. The Aquatudes http://www.aquatudes.com http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Aquatudes/107419619521 Top
BC4DdrummerAK Joined: Oct 07, 2012 Posts: 66 Anchorage, Alaska	Posted on Jul 14 2016 07:44 PM Well. I'm digging up a very old topic (again), but I wanted to throw my 2 cents out there. First off, I see a common thread of "so-and-so uses one, but has a heavy metal background". Chalk me into that group. I literally went from blast beat heavy black metal to playing surf the very next band (but started with symphonic band, some musicals in high school etc..hardly a self-taught basher). My group is not 100% traditionally "classic" surf music however, it has almost a punk aesthetic to it, just in intensity and delivery. Even the covers we choose are not 'typical', and generally rather obscure at times, so me using double pedals and heavy snare work actually works for us. Anyway, I don't go nuts with the double pedals. I use them underneath some tom heavy fills in a couple original songs of ours, the occasional "flam fill" as I like to call them, and the only time I use them any kind of seriously heavy intensity is when we play our version of the classic 'Tetris' video game theme. We play it like you progress in the game: starts slow, speeds up with each run through (and chorus). I end with straight up blast beats and flying double bass while everyone else grinds their strings for what they're worth and come to a crashing end, just like when you get too many pieces stacked too high. And the crowd eats it up. Otherwise, I keep it down to a 4 on the floor kind of beat. The pedals I use (Pearl Demon Drives) are very fast and responsive, and I can do some nice faster single foot work with them. Secondly, someone had to say there's no "classy" heavy metal drumming. Well no kidding. It's metal. Even the drummers that play for the most symphonic, over the top melodic power metal are absolute animals behind the kit. But death metal guys like Derek Roddy and George Kollias play light jazz gigs, and technical more jazzy guys like Marco Minnemann play technical death metal. It happens. And 3rd. Why has nobody mentioned Mel Taylor and the HUGE kits he was playing on with The Ventures in the 70's and 80's? He kinda helped set the standard a lot of you folks in this thread hold classic surf drumming to. Just saying. Wipeout; The Ventures w/ Max Weinberg And by the way, I am really enjoying reading what you other drummers have to say, and I'm getting different ideas and new approaches to what I'm doing when I play the surf stuff. — Gear:Kit:Pearl Reference series in Emerald Fade,Pearl rack,Pearl Demon Drive pedals,Tama Iron Cobra hi-hat stand, Sabian & UFiP cymbals. Top
BC4DdrummerAK Joined: Oct 07, 2012 Posts: 66 Anchorage, Alaska	Posted on Jul 14 2016 07:52 PM brandonio wrote: The double bass pedal has been around since the 1780's or something like that.Some Russian dude invented it from what my memory tells me.Doesn't Prarie Prince of Dick Dale fame use them.I say double bass sounds like a good idea for surf.It's not that surf needs any help in the dynamic department,but it could add so much to the pulse and liveliness to a driving song.As a musician it's always good to face a challenge.Those who are opposed are probably afraid of such a challenge.I personally don't use one in my set,but I'm seriously considering it.Back when i started playing drums in '84 I had one and became pretty good at controlling both pedals. i personally don't think it would throw things off in surf music,after all surf is the grandfather to metal and hard rock music .The music that has been famously known for it's usage.It's time for a little change up in the surf music world if you ask me. I like the way you think sir! That was our idea when Bottle Caps for Dollars came to be. It was surf, but not typical surf. There's another band that plays here in town called The Spenerds, and they are FANTASTIC classic surf, and both bands get along most swimmingly! — Gear:Kit:Pearl Reference series in Emerald Fade,Pearl rack,Pearl Demon Drive pedals,Tama Iron Cobra hi-hat stand, Sabian & UFiP cymbals. Top
Nokie Joined: Oct 06, 2008 Posts: 550 So Cal	Posted on Jul 14 2016 10:08 PM BoardwalkerJeff wrote: Trey Cool from the Ultras used the two-kick set-up and played it tastefully. Two kicks have been around since the forties, these guys come to mind... Louie Bellson Ed Shaughnessy Even Buddy Rich did a show with them in 1949. As far as Surf It all depends on what era you want to honor I guess. If it's done tastefully with a slice of humor I'm all for it. A slice of humor indeed! — "Hello Girls!" Top
BC4DdrummerAK Joined: Oct 07, 2012 Posts: 66 Anchorage, Alaska	Posted on Jul 15 2016 05:04 PM Nokie wrote: BoardwalkerJeff wrote: Trey Cool from the Ultras used the two-kick set-up and played it tastefully. Two kicks have been around since the forties, these guys come to mind... Louie Bellson Ed Shaughnessy Even Buddy Rich did a show with them in 1949. As far as Surf It all depends on what era you want to honor I guess. If it's done tastefully with a slice of humor I'm all for it. A slice of humor indeed! hahaha! This video never gets old. Hell, none of their videos get old. Showboating aside, the guy is actually a very good drummer. — Gear:Kit:Pearl Reference series in Emerald Fade,Pearl rack,Pearl Demon Drive pedals,Tama Iron Cobra hi-hat stand, Sabian & UFiP cymbals. Top
BC4DdrummerAK Joined: Oct 07, 2012 Posts: 66 Anchorage, Alaska	Posted on Jul 15 2016 05:08 PM OH! I wanted to bring up another point, in regards to metal guys playing surf. A Mr. Dusty Watson got his start as a punk drummer (while going to music school), and one of his first pro gigs, aside from Jon & The Nightriders, was backing Lita Ford for the first four or so years of her solo career after bouncing from The Runaways, and even recorded the "Out For Blood" album with her. The video for the title track shows Dusty playing a damn impressive red monster double kick set. — Gear:Kit:Pearl Reference series in Emerald Fade,Pearl rack,Pearl Demon Drive pedals,Tama Iron Cobra hi-hat stand, Sabian & UFiP cymbals. Top
Kawentzmann Joined: Feb 27, 2006 Posts: 1062 Berlin, Germany	Posted on Jul 16 2016 08:59 AM Has Peter Jay of The Jaywalkers (british rock instrumental act of the 60s) been mentioned? Here’s another english dude sitting at the cans: http://67.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m2beo7xpLY1qhnkvco1_500.jpg — The Exotic Guitar of Kahuna Kawentzmann You can get the boy out of the Keynes era, but you can’t get the Keynes era out of the boy. Top

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