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grayn Joined: Apr 07, 2012 Posts: 114 East Lancashire	Posted on Apr 20 2016 06:32 AM Other than jaguars those short strats and Mustangs, are there any other, readily available, electric guitars, with a 24" scale, as standard? Cheers. — http://soundcloud.com/graham-pike Top
GregEL Joined: Mar 16, 2016 Posts: 217 Highland CA	Posted on Apr 20 2016 07:56 AM Found this on Wikipedia: 24 in (610 mm), confusingly called "full scale" in Fender sales literature: Brian May Red Special DGW (Durango Guitar Works) All models Fender Bronco Fender Jag-Stang Fender Jaguar Fender Modern Player Short Scale Stratocaster Fender Mustang most models, including current production Fender Most Musicmaster II and Duosonic II Ibanez ORM1 Vox Mark III (Teardrop) 24.5 in (622 mm): Mosrite guitars Paul Reed Smith 245 series guitars Paul Reed Smith Santana Signature series 24.6 in (625 mm): Gretsch most electric guitars 24.75 in (629 mm): Epiphone most electric guitars (including Casino, G-310, G-400) ESP Maverick now it calls ESP MV Fender Cyclone Fender Stratosonic Fender Tele-Sonic Gibson most electric guitars (including Les Paul, most Les Paul Juniors, Flying V, Explorer, SG, Firebird, ES-175, ES-330, ES-335) Gibson ES-150 (original version) Gibson L-20 Acoustic Godin most electric guitars Guild most electric guitars Ibanez Artcore series Top
TomH Joined: Mar 15, 2006 Posts: 766 Oberlin, Ohio, USA	Posted on Apr 20 2016 09:20 AM For me, there are four factors to take into consideration when evaluating necks: the scale, the thinness, the width and the radius. If I get it into my head that I only want a 24" scale neck, I tend to overlook those other three crucial factors and have ended up with a neck that's not all that comfortable, but when I keep an open mind, I'm surprised at the number of longer scale necks that are more comfortable to me. My only advice is to look at all 4 of those factors when considering what type of neck. Top
CrazyAces Joined: Jul 31, 2012 Posts: 4054 Buffalo, N.Y.	Posted on Apr 20 2016 09:27 AM TomH wrote: For me, there are four factors to take into consideration when evaluating necks: the scale, the thinness, the width and the radius. If I get it into my head that I only want a 24" scale neck, I tend to overlook those other three crucial factors and have ended up with a neck that's not all that comfortable, but when I keep an open mind, I'm surprised at the number of longer scale necks that are more comfortable to me. My only advice is to look at all 4 of those factors when considering what type of neck. I think this is great advice. I see so many of my customers who limit themselves from possible guitars by having a specific wish list. Years ago we knew less, made do and made music with whatever we liked. I have so many different guitars with different scale lengths and neck shapes that sound amazing but I would have missed some of those if I had just stuck to one set of dimensions. An open mind is a good thing when it comes to guitars, or so I believe. FWIW, that's a pretty cool list of short scales though. Cheers, Jeff — http://www.facebook.com/CrazyAcesMusic http://www.youtube.com/user/crazyacesrock http://www.reverbnation.com/crazyacesmusic Top
JakeDobner Joined: Feb 26, 2006 Posts: 12159 Seattle	Posted on Apr 20 2016 09:36 AM GregEL wrote: Found this on Wikipedia: 24 in (610 mm), confusingly called "full scale" in Fender sales literature: 24" is absolutely full scale. The internet has persisted a myth that 24" is short scale for some reason. It has a shorter scale length than the 25.5" of the Strat/Jazz/Tele... But take 24.75" as the standard scale length which persists across most other makes and models and you have the Jag and Strat/Tele/Jazz which are both equally .75" away from that standard. So is the Strat/Tele/Jazz long scale? Absolutely not. Both 24" and 25.5" are 'full' scale. The internet sucks and is full of misinformation. 22.5" is what you would consider 3/4 or a short scale. Top
josheboy Joined: Mar 13, 2009 Posts: 2367 Twin Cities, MN	Posted on Apr 20 2016 09:50 AM JakeDobner wrote: 24" is absolutely full scale. The internet has persisted a myth that 24" is short scale for some reason. It has a shorter scale length than the 25.5" of the Strat/Jazz/Tele... But take 24.75" as the standard scale length which persists across most other makes and models and you have the Jag and Strat/Tele/Jazz which are both equally .75" away from that standard. So is the Strat/Tele/Jazz long scale? Absolutely not. Both 24" and 25.5" are 'full' scale. Exactly!!!! Preach it, Jake! Jags aren't short scale! #JagScaleMatters Top
JObeast Joined: Jul 24, 2012 Posts: 2762 Finknabad, Squinkistan	Posted on Apr 20 2016 10:05 AM What he said. I switch off between several guitars as the need demands and scale length difference of 3/4" is certainly not a consideration.mthepnly thing that matters is how they feel, sound and play. String gauges accommodate the need for specific tension between this and that guitar but recall that length of string behind the bridge and headstock angle contribute to the sensation of string tension. I didn't even notice tha the Mosrite was a 'short scale' guitar because it feels so long! I do own one truly small guitar with a very thin, light neck that plays beautifully. Despite being small in body and short of neck, it feels and sounds like a serious instrument because of the details of its craftsmanship. Quality, not category, is what matters in guitars. Each one, even among visually identical axes, can have its own specific character, though this is more apropos to older than newer ones made by CNC machines. Let your ears and hands be the judge, not some marketer's idea of what you want. — Squink Out! Last edited: Apr 20, 2016 10:12:08 Top
grayn Joined: Apr 07, 2012 Posts: 114 East Lancashire	Posted on Apr 20 2016 01:44 PM Thanks guys. The Wiki list is a good one, thanks for posting it. They forgot the Pawn Shop Super-Sonic. I wouldn't consider limiting myself to a single scale length but find the 24" scale, really gives a very different sound and of course, feel. As with most things, I always like to play it for myself. — http://soundcloud.com/graham-pike Last edited: Apr 20, 2016 13:49:41 Top
SixStringSurfer Joined: Sep 23, 2014 Posts: 1433 Memphis, TN	Posted on Apr 20 2016 05:49 PM JakeDobner wrote: GregEL wrote: Found this on Wikipedia: 24 in (610 mm), confusingly called "full scale" in Fender sales literature: 24" is absolutely full scale. The internet has persisted a myth that 24" is short scale for some reason. It has a shorter scale length than the 25.5" of the Strat/Jazz/Tele... But take 24.75" as the standard scale length which persists across most other makes and models and you have the Jag and Strat/Tele/Jazz which are both equally .75" away from that standard. So is the Strat/Tele/Jazz long scale? Absolutely not. Both 24" and 25.5" are 'full' scale. The internet sucks and is full of misinformation. 22.5" is what you would consider 3/4 or a short scale. I learned something new today, thanks Jake! — MooreLoud.com - A tribute to Dick Dale. New EP Louder Than Life available on bandcamp and website. Taking guitar lessons from Jimmy Dale. Top
grayn Joined: Apr 07, 2012 Posts: 114 East Lancashire	Posted on Apr 21 2016 07:26 AM Thanks for yet another rant about the 24" scale and whether it's full, short or intermediate, Mr Dobner. I was kind of hoping some folk might put me on to some other "full scale" 24" guitars, I'd not heard of, before. — http://soundcloud.com/graham-pike Top
blackheartsfan Joined: Jun 13, 2009 Posts: 274	Posted on Apr 22 2016 12:52 AM List omits the latest production Squier Jagmaster 24" scale. After trying to bond with mine for four years I finally sold it last month, just couldn't get used to the shorter spaces between the frets and I'm more of a "lead" player than "rhythm". Last edited: Apr 22, 2016 00:54:42 Top

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