SanchoPansen
Joined: Jan 04, 2011
Posts: 1588
Berlin L-Berg
|
Posted on Mar 31 2016 01:44 PM
I did not say it compresses the tone. I said it 'alters' the tone. And that's the secret behind the sound of that video. The maxed attack of the CS-3. No matter what the knob does - technically speaking. The OP asked how to get that sound and that's the answer along with being a very good player.
It has a huge impact on the reaction of the tank, btw.
— The Hicadoolas
Last edited: Mar 31, 2016 13:47:22
|
simoncoil
Joined: Sep 28, 2012
Posts: 916
Berlin, Germany
|
Posted on Apr 01 2016 06:50 AM
I definitely have to watch this show again!
And maybe I should also give the compressor another try. I played one for a few shows but always had the feeling it took away too much, especially of the double picking parts, but then I had set the attack very low on mine...
— Los Apollos - cinematic surf music trio (Berlin)
"Postcards from the Scrapyard" Vol. 1, 2 & 3 NOW available on various platforms!
"Chaos at the Lobster Lounge" available as LP and download on Surf Cookie Records!
|
SanchoPansen
Joined: Jan 04, 2011
Posts: 1588
Berlin L-Berg
|
Posted on Apr 01 2016 12:23 PM
You can borrow mine or you can come over to test it
— The Hicadoolas
|
Badger
Joined: Nov 16, 2013
Posts: 4536
Wisconsin
|
Posted on Apr 02 2016 07:20 AM
I did a little experiment after listening to Kilian's demo (and of course again watching that show). I have to agree that the function of the Attack knob (on THIS pedal) is to determine when it jumps on the note picked to apply compression & that is what makes a very smooth sound especially in something legato done pretty quickly. (Could be just a human perception of the initial strike of the first note of a passage and some slightly lesser attack, sub-conscious, on following ones.)
Not an always on thing for me but really like the effect with a Strat for something with lots of single-note passages. If I had the amp cranked up it likely wouldn't be needed. But as long as I don't go crazy with the Sustain knob it can make for a very nice room-level recording setup that also yields less overall noise.
Looking at Boss' manual for it, and descriptions of other compressors, it's possible some implement this counter-intuitively from what we think a CW-CCW knob application should be (and Boss' explanation doesn't translate very well). Anyway, it's a very neat tone & quite useable for certain things. Quite a bit of note clarity that is really pleasing.
— Wes
SoCal ex-pat with a snow shovel
DISCLAIMER: The above is opinion/suggestion only & should not be used for mission planning/navigation, tweaking of instruments, beverage selection, or wardrobe choices.
|
artdecade
Joined: Aug 30, 2012
Posts: 399
Twangsville
|
Posted on Apr 02 2016 08:35 AM
Thanks, Badger! I was thinking that I totally lost my mind in how I remembered that pedal!
— To Boldly go where no Tiki has gone before...
|
Badger
Joined: Nov 16, 2013
Posts: 4536
Wisconsin
|
Posted on Apr 02 2016 09:40 AM
artdecade wrote:
Thanks, Badger! I was thinking that I totally lost my mind in how I remembered that pedal!
You're not losing your mind (if you are, mine is apparently gone too, opinions vary).
The proof for me ends up in the knob-twirling, whatever they call it in the documentation and, in this case clearly, Alex's sound. You just have to experiment & get what what you wanna get (and Alex has a distinctive sound, all his).
I'd also tried it with everything at 12:00 (just matching the level) and Kilian's point is clear; there IS a tonal alteration regardless.
In reading about these things & various product manuals, and watching some demos, it was quite a trip to the zoo. (I can see why some session guys would use one of these when they can't crank their amp.) I would've like to have had this thing back when I had a country/southern-rock band in small bars for some of that early-in-the-evening stuff (you know, before the 2-step/polka crowd goes home after the fish-fry & all the drunks are yelling "Free Bird!")
— Wes
SoCal ex-pat with a snow shovel
DISCLAIMER: The above is opinion/suggestion only & should not be used for mission planning/navigation, tweaking of instruments, beverage selection, or wardrobe choices.
|