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Why don't people post anymore Backing tracks? Are we out of them?

The Atlantics have quite a few available and it's easy to find Shadows tracks online.

Got those already.

My theory is it takes a lot of time to make a backing track. And those with the skill to do so no longer find them useful. It's kind of the same thing with tabs. If you can create a good tab, you probably don't need them for yourself anymore. So you just have to rely on someone who has the time and enjoys making them for their own sake.

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Probably right.

I have uploaded 4 backing tracks to SG101 over the years (I had to make my own because just couldn't find them online, they are handy for practice of songs I wanted to get right) . They do take time, so you have to have some spare time and be in the mood for it, also its good to share them around for other players

'Surf Music Lasts Forever'

I agree, I would if I could make them.

how about these
http://goran.tangring.com/

There are all sorts of levels of backing tracks, including..

  • One acoustic or electric rhythm guitar (will often do the job)
  • Drum machine, guitar & bass.
  • Live band

Nearly everyone has the equipment these days to do the first two. It's really good practice as well.

BUT, if you want a BT with all the bells and whistles then that's another story. The Atlantics have released a couple of BT CDs that have been well received and they are taken from the actual album minus the main guitar.

We often get requests for BTs for other songs that we haven't put out but the reality of doing so is not generally understood. It's takes time & money.. studio time, engineer, mixing, mastering, etc.

Here are a couple that are available -
http://martincilia.com/buy-cds/revenge-backing-tracks-martin-cilia/
http://martincilia.com/buy-cds/the-odd-one-out-backing-tracks-martin-cilia/

tomtheetuna, Thanks been there already.
Martin, WE have e-mailed back and forth before. I am the one that keeps asking for Twilight Surfer(not the midi one). LOL.

The Atlatnics/Martin Cilia backing tracks, you can't get better than this...
Helped me immensely when I started, and still is challenging.

I too feel that anyone who can do a quality BT, rather work on their music.
BUT,
If a band already has a multi-track recording, it would be easy enough to remove the lead guitar parts and render it for practice purposes only.
No remixing needed, no mastering needed. Just DELETE; RENDER;
Either from the original mix, mastered files or stems, doesn't matter.
If you already have it digitally, it can be an hour's work.
Even if it's not perfect, some reverb trails remain or it throws off the compression or stereo spread or what-not, for a backing track it'd be good enough.

BT's can potentially increase any band's popularity, make the listener seek out the original.
It will help take surf guitar playing to the next level, globally, and raise the genre's visibility. We want that.

Last edited: Mar 22, 2016 05:02:56

DreadInBabylon wrote:

If a band already has a multi-track recording, it would be easy enough to remove the lead guitar parts and render it for practice purposes only.
No remixing needed, no mastering needed. Just DELETE; RENDER;

Why stop with lead guitar? why not make all parts available for bassists and drummers to delete whatever they choose. Have a look at what Ola Englund has on offer for his fans and you'll see what I'm getting at.

Here

Yo! you into mixing? Smile

gc24 wrote:

Martin, WE have e-mailed back and forth before. I am the one that keeps asking for Twilight Surfer(not the midi one). LOL.

Martin's always been very generous with his time answering my questions & his studio efforts providing backing tracks. Besides all the companion BT's I've bought along with the albums from Martin & The Atlantics work (wonderful stuff), I found a Midi-converter awhile back (can't remember which one) that let me bring Twilight Surfer (and some others) into an mp3, which my software handles better. Not all converters you find online are created equal, some do a junk job, so you have to search & find one that renders the most honest representation. Think the one I used was from PolySoft Solutions; free. Edited to add: There's another online one here.

Martin, if it's ok I can send the mp3 b/t of Twilight Surfer to you in case others would like it; you can be the judge of how accurately it rendered. (Wife loves that tune also, "lying on the beach music" she calls it.)
Cool

Wes
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Last edited: Mar 22, 2016 09:09:02

Badger, I tried Polysoft and it still leaves the organ part in there. I guess there no way to eliminate that part.

Last edited: Mar 22, 2016 11:09:18

gc24 wrote:

Badger, I tried Polysoft and it still leaves the organ part in there. I guess there no way to eliminate that part.

Yes, it's left in because it's part of the track. It helps fill the track in; some use it as well as a way to "flesh out" an idea conceived at home they might later bring to a whole band, who will then substitute their various skills/instruments.

I found that if I get what I'm after in terms of guitar tone/effects, lay in a few mixed-faintly-into-the-back echo'y supporting chords and it'll virtually disappear. Or a bright upstroked rhythm if you channel some reggae mon'. Considering the work involved in making these available I'm just grateful he does it.

Wes
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I remember this being very useful to me; 6 Torquays tracks that you can play over.

http://www.davecelentano.com/products-page/education/surf-guitar/

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Brian wrote:

I remember this being very useful to me; 6 Torquays tracks that you can play over.

Thanks Brian, will investigate as well. (where was this when I was slaving over bad drum loops to cobble up some Torquays stuff at home, lol)
Cool

Edited to add: Dave Celentano advises still available; the 6 Torquays tracks are:

  1. Ding
  2. Sunset Cruise
  3. Trilobite
  4. Tide Pool Q
  5. Twilight at Trestles
  6. Twitchin'
    Cool

Wes
SoCal ex-pat with a snow shovel

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Last edited: Mar 23, 2016 12:40:13

Is there a free user friendly Midi Editor out there?

Badger wrote:

gc24 wrote:

Martin, WE have e-mailed back and forth before. I am the one that keeps asking for Twilight Surfer(not the midi one). LOL.

Martin's always been very generous with his time answering my questions & his studio efforts providing backing tracks. Besides all the companion BT's I've bought along with the albums from Martin & The Atlantics work (wonderful stuff), I found a Midi-converter awhile back (can't remember which one) that let me bring Twilight Surfer (and some others) into an mp3, which my software handles better. Not all converters you find online are created equal, some do a junk job, so you have to search & find one that renders the most honest representation. Think the one I used was from PolySoft Solutions; free. Edited to add: There's another online one here.

Martin, if it's ok I can send the mp3 b/t of Twilight Surfer to you in case others would like it; you can be the judge of how accurately it rendered. (Wife loves that tune also, "lying on the beach music" she calls it.)
Cool

Hi Glen, how are you going?

Wes, yes ok to share midi file of any BTs you have made.

Martin, good thanks for asking. Do you think you will ever put out a MP3 of Twilight Surfer BT without the organ part in it?

Last edited: Mar 22, 2016 21:30:16

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