JONPAUL
Joined: Apr 29, 2010
Posts: 2472
Venice, CA
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Posted on Jun 03 2014 12:12 PM
How often do you guys listen to this stuff? Why aren't they mentioned more often? Hearing "Point Conception '63" on North Sea Surf Radio on the way to work this morning sent chills up my spine (as it does every time I hear it) and made me think about the above questions. Such an overlooked band, especially considering their timeframe and Bob Dalley's incredible contributions to the Surf music world.
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remora1
Joined: Jan 04, 2008
Posts: 1278
San Pedro, CA
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Posted on Jun 03 2014 12:34 PM
Fresh out of high school, my band played with them and The Wigs at the Star Theater in San Pedro around 1980/81. We thought we killed it, then the Surf Raiders took the stage and we realized we didn't know what the f*ck we were doing 
— Bill S._______
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Noel
Joined: Mar 15, 2011
Posts: 8528
Back in Piitsburgh, Pennsylvania, where I grew up.
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Posted on Jun 03 2014 12:37 PM
Great question, Jonpaul. I did a search of sg101 and found just two topics with eleven total posts devoted to The Surf Raiders by name. I confess they fall into that period I know the least about, since there are relatively few discussions here about that time-frame compared to early, recent, and contemporary surf music. At least I recall seeing very few in my few years here.
Here's Point Conception '63.
— This is Noel. Reverb's at maximum an' I'm givin' 'er all she's got.
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remora1
Joined: Jan 04, 2008
Posts: 1278
San Pedro, CA
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Posted on Jun 03 2014 01:02 PM
I thought I had something from that show -
Seeing the Surf Raiders was truly an eye-opening experience. This was the pre-internet stone age and we had no clue how to get THAT sound. The Surf Raiders had it in spades. Learned a lot that night - still took many years to get even close to sounding that good!
— Bill S._______
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bigtikidude
Joined: Feb 27, 2006
Posts: 25706
Anaheim(So.Cal.)U.S.A.
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Posted on Jun 03 2014 01:42 PM
I have most of their recorded output.
but sadly I never saw them, which is sad,
considering that they used to play in Buena park at
knotts berry farm just a few miles from my house.
And sadly I don't have Bob Dalley's book "surfin guitars"
I really need to get that.
I think that they were a pretty good band.
Definitely in the 80's surf top 3, with John n the Nightriders
and the Halibuts.
— Jeff(bigtikidude)
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dp
Joined: Feb 26, 2006
Posts: 3546
mojave desert, california
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Posted on Jun 04 2014 01:29 PM
They were a Beacon of Reverb to me in 1980-1984: the Surf Raiders gave me hope for a better tomorrow.
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DannySnyder
Joined: Mar 02, 2006
Posts: 11078
Berkeley, CA
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Posted on Jun 04 2014 05:41 PM
When I was around 15, back in the days of portable cassettes, I used to record my local college radio station when they had some cool stuff. Sure enough there was a surf music special and I got a whole side of a tape of this unique instrumental guitar music that I hadn't known existed. One song really stuck out, a very mysterious song that changed rhythms in the middle and had that really strange echoey sound. Really gave me goose bumps! It always stuck with me, and years later I found out it was Wave Walkin' by The Surf Raiders. Thanks guys!!!
— Danny Snyder
"With great reverb comes great responsibility" - Uncle Leo
I am now playing trumpet with Prince Buster tribute band 'Balzac'
Playing keys and guitar with Combo Tezeta
Formerly a guitarist in The TomorrowMen and Meshugga Beach Party
Latest surf project - Now That's What I Call SURF
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SurfSurf
Joined: Jul 28, 2009
Posts: 105
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Posted on Jun 04 2014 11:07 PM
Great to read about the Surf Raiders. They helped us get gigs and Bob and Neal recorded our single when I was in a "punk surf instrumental" band in '81 named the Ripp Tides...kind of Agent Orange meets Jon and the Nightriders (we learned every song off of "Live at the Whiskey" and added a dozen or so originals, some of which got played on KROQ) I was the guy surfing on their Raiders of the Lost Surf album (just changed my avitar to that photo...) good times...actually GREAT times. Best of all, after our recording session for our single I got to hang around Neal's home studio and he showed me how to play Point Conception, that song gives me chicken skin every time I play it to this day!
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Noel
Joined: Mar 15, 2011
Posts: 8528
Back in Piitsburgh, Pennsylvania, where I grew up.
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Posted on Jun 05 2014 04:20 AM
SurfSurf wrote:
Great to read about the Surf Raiders. They helped us get gigs and Bob and Neal recorded our single when I was in a "punk surf instrumental" band in '81 named the Ripp Tides...kind of Agent Orange meets Jon and the Nightriders (we learned every song off of "Live at the Whiskey" and added a dozen or so originals, some of which got played on KROQ) I was the guy surfing on their Raiders of the Lost Surf album (just changed my avitar to that photo...) good times...actually GREAT times. Best of all, after our recording session for our single I got to hang around Neal's home studio and he showed me how to play Point Conception, that song gives me chicken skin every time I play it to this day!
That's a great story! Thanks for sharing it.
— This is Noel. Reverb's at maximum an' I'm givin' 'er all she's got.
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Emilien03
Joined: Jul 16, 2008
Posts: 1377
Coyoacán, Distrito Federal
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Posted on Jun 11 2014 12:12 PM
What Jeff said ... I listen to them very often, love their drip and vibe, BANGALORE and TSUNAMI ... are killer tunes ... and the bass sounds so good, you can listen to every note, that's Surf Bass!
— When you have to shoot ... shoot! Don't talk.
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tdsurf
Joined: Aug 13, 2007
Posts: 409
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Posted on Feb 28 2016 05:09 PM
Love that song... Point Conception '63. Who wrote that? excellent recording, first time paying attention.
— Sound of the Surf, the movie
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Surf_Skater
Joined: Sep 06, 2012
Posts: 1300
Lawrenceville , GA
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Posted on Feb 28 2016 07:22 PM
Thanks for reviving this thread. I hadn't listened to them before. They are pretty frickin' awesome!
Does anyone know if any of the members went on to doing any other surf music?
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JObeast
Joined: Jul 24, 2012
Posts: 2762
Finknabad, Squinkistan
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Posted on Feb 28 2016 10:39 PM
Yes, I've been hearing these tunes on NSSR and FJ and didn't catch the title or artist. They capture the mysterious and melancholic sound of early surf but with a touch of sophistication. It's mind-boggling for me to imagine playing this way in 1981. Too bad I was all into British bands then, I missed something very cool. At least we have the recordings!
— Squink Out!
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tired
Joined: Sep 03, 2006
Posts: 334
Herten - Germany
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Posted on Feb 29 2016 04:30 AM
"Point Conception" was written by their rhythm guitarist Neil W. Kuzee.
The track was released in 1982 on their LP "Raiders of the Lost Surf" on blue vinyl. Surf Wax Records SW 1001
It was released as a single backed with "Unknown" on Surf Wax 103
There is a version called "Point Conception ´63" backed with "Crash" on Surf Wax 102
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surfgtrnut
Joined: Dec 26, 2008
Posts: 122
Binghamton, NY
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Posted on Feb 29 2016 04:33 PM
Great Band, but being from a small town in Upstate New York, I had never heard of them until 2 years ago, when I saw there LP Surf Bound at a used record sale. I purchased the Lp and since I've bought all the Surf Raiders I could find on the Internet. Some times I wish I lived in California.
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CurlRider
Joined: Nov 25, 2009
Posts: 15
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Posted on Mar 03 2016 10:09 PM
I want to thank Jeff for sending me the like to this discussion concerning the Surf Raiders. I want to let you all know that I am very humbled by your comments and enjoyed every one I read. It seems like a million years ago when the Surf Raiders got together. It is great to see that we might have been a good influence during our time together. Thanks everyone for your support.
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Badger
Joined: Nov 16, 2013
Posts: 4537
Wisconsin
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Posted on Mar 04 2016 06:40 AM
Noel wrote:
Here's Point Conception '63.
My word that's beautiful; trad to the bone.
— Wes
SoCal ex-pat with a snow shovel
DISCLAIMER: The above is opinion/suggestion only & should not be used for mission planning/navigation, tweaking of instruments, beverage selection, or wardrobe choices.
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