seafoam_green
Joined: Jan 19, 2013
Posts: 17
Bali
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Posted on Mar 17 2013 07:38 AM
Hi has anyone used Toontacks superior Drummer ?
Im about to buy this software for songwriting and recording and the samples are good , especially the custom and vintage expansion kit for this (surf) genre ..., but what about the midi side of things , has anyone found any decent midi tracks suitable within their (or others) range of products ?.
Im also interested in rockabilly grooves also
— Green Rooms, Bombora's and Reverb
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LoeD
Joined: Feb 29, 2012
Posts: 310
Germany
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Posted on Mar 17 2013 09:51 AM
Hi
I tried several kinds of drum software. EZ drummer, superior drummer drumagog... but I finally ended with using addictive drums. For me it has the best sounding and editalbe drums of all these software drumkits. regarding midi: I used it with miditracks that were derived from trigger signals that were made out of microphone tracks from an real drumset.
aka "reamping" if you´d think guitar.
hope this helps
LoeD
— here comes the WEST SAMOA SURFER LEAGUE
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bamboozer
Joined: Jan 18, 2010
Posts: 672
Delaware
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Posted on Mar 17 2013 02:34 PM
I've used EZ drummer and got excellent results, never tried Superior Drummer because I believe you have to furnish or create your own beats and that's far beyond me.
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seafoam_green
Joined: Jan 19, 2013
Posts: 17
Bali
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Posted on Mar 17 2013 07:24 PM
@ loeD , that's interesting about the addictive drums , ill check them out . Regarding triggers ..., getting a real drummer when I want one plus the recording issues make it a dead end for me , best I create songs when the mind is co-operating , and record there and then on DAW, and If I find drummers at a latter date , they'll have a reference of the beats im after for my original stuff (that's my plan)
@Bamboozer , all of ez drummers pre mixed (non effects editable) files work in superior drummer , but superior drummers sounds drum sounds are all recorded with top quality individual mics as well as the variety of room mics and you can vary the mix between them all , thus radically changing the way a kit sounds , and there are also effects and drum editing . Many producer presets are also available to use , even if its only as a good starting point before you start tweeking the sounds.
The tracks midi loops are dragged into ez player pro for easiest midi file sequencing and editing , or can be exported to pro tools/Cubase /etc.
..., but ultimately , so far ( from my research only , not hands on ) With toontracks ,I like the idea that I can easily preview and edit loops in ezy player pro to construct my song , then I can play with the mix either before or after recording all the other tracks , as you need to record all the other tracks to see whats going on so you can shape the right colour for the drums to fit in as desired (ie; smooth , soft , or hard hitting in your face , small room up front , or big hall ...., your really cannot decide on these moods until you've layed down the rest of your tracks and then started mixing the mood you want and blend the drums in with it (IMHO)
— Green Rooms, Bombora's and Reverb
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Ariel
Joined: Aug 29, 2009
Posts: 1556
Israel
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Posted on Mar 19 2013 05:56 PM
+1 for Addictive Drums - it's one of the better packs out there.
I tend to disable most internal processing, especially compression (over compressed drums sound good only when they're real!), in order to preserve the natural transients. As general advice: the less you mess with samples, the better. If it's not the sound you want, choose a different sample set, FX just won't fix it.
If needed afterward, I side chain compress the set as group, add reverb as send.
The best drums software I use is: NI Abbey road 60's drums.
Listen to the demos, it's the perfect kit(s) for us!
Here's one example of what I did with it, a while ago.
Last edited: Mar 19, 2013 18:04:28
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PTPDennis
Joined: Jul 21, 2012
Posts: 17
Charleston, SC
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Posted on Dec 28 2015 10:11 PM
I use Toontrack for a TON of stuff... fantastic people with a great product.
BUT I recently found this collection of MIDI and wanted to share it here. http://www.happydogmedia.com/rockabillymasters.aspx
Slides right into your EZDrummer library and sounds really nice... for a great price, too.
Best,
Dennis
Last edited: Dec 28, 2015 22:12:32
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