Love it! a drum kit with it's own party!

This is fantastic! I love stories like this! Crumble, please keep us posted on the continuing events! Perhaps suggest doing an EVP session (asking questions while recording on a digital recorder) in there one night?

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crumble wrote:

JONPAUL wrote:

This is fantastic! I love stories like this! Crumble, please keep us posted on the continuing events! Perhaps suggest doing an EVP session (asking questions while recording on a digital recorder) in there one night?

I'm heading over to his place for a jam session soon. The bass player always brings his Zoom H2 hand recorder we'll see what we can do!

Perhaps the 'occupants' are happy to have music again. Any handed-down lore of the local area from times past?

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Badger wrote:

Perhaps the 'occupants' are happy to have music again. Any handed-down lore of the local area from times past?

Wes, the place is steeped ye olden day history. Roman settlements, War of the Roses it's everywhere you look. When I said countryside I meant the far edge of town. His house would probably be 1940s, the road outside is so narrow it would have been a cattle track at one time, it opens up wider into a housing estate where James Stuart lived during the making of "No Highway in the Sky" it seems he was happy to stay in a brick semi just like the rest of us. Back to my friend Richard, it took a while to get used the quiet and look of the sky, the odd rustling from horse stables across the fields and hooty owl noises.

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Get out.......

Blackwater again. Remember your heads-up about a Jet Harris gig at the lakeside Blackwater?

It's the house on the hill....

CrazyAces wrote:

crumble,
Cool story!
I love hearing about things like this in relation to instruments or perhaps as stated above - your friend's new digs.
Let us know if you hear it to!?

Cheers,
Jeff

From what Rich has told me the sound comes from the kit. I think he said the seller had two kits for sale at the time. A very high priced vintage Slingerland in pristine condition and another of around the same year in fair condition but needing some TLC for bargain price. Rich snapped up the later before the guy changed his mind, repaired and sourced correct parts for it. I'll be heading over to his place this week so expect a recording soon. Should be fun!

We had a great little get together but unfortunately both of my two friends had had a stressful day and the hand recorder was forgotten on this occasion - Sorry Jon Paul and Jeff perhaps another day.

I found out Richard's Slingerland is a 1965 left handed "Stage Band" in red satin flame, apparently a cheaper model with centre placement tuning lugs. It is a gorgeous kit with a beautiful musical tone though.

After an hour of playing we took a musical interlude, my friends were chatting and I was fiddling with my new amp in a world of my own when I became aware of what sounded like a loud boom-box playing rock music from outside. I asked where the sound was coming from and we all stopped to listen and witnessed a long decaying echo coming from kit. Richard wasn't touching the kit at this moment so I guess it somehow amplified their voices, wildly and chaotically reverberating it into something that sounded like a band playing rock music. Needless to say Rich was relived that someone else had witnessed it.

"I found out Richard's Slingerland is a 1965 left handed "Stage Band" in red satin flame, apparently a cheaper model with centre placement tuning lugs. It is a gorgeous kit with a beautiful musical tone though."

Crumble, just a quick note to pass along to your friend. While the "Stage Band" drums were less expensive, the shells are the same and hardware the same quality as the double-lugged kits. The cost savings was in labor (only having to drill holes for one set of lugs) and of course, one less set of lugs.

I have always played double-lugged kits but a few years back scored a set of '65 Ludwig Club Dates. These are also single-lugged drums (although not haunted, dammit). There are theories that the single set of lugs actually interferes less with the shell resonating, hence producing a better tone the more expensive double-lugged ("Classics" I believe in Ludwig parlance... not sure if Slingerland had a similar name) drums.

Also, the satin flame wraps are "textured" and very easily scratched. To find such a kit from '65 that still looks "gorgeous" is pretty rare. Based on your assessment of the kit's tone and appearance, I'd say your friend made the right choice for the "cheaper" set of Slingys.

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murph wrote:

"I found out Richard's Slingerland is a 1965 left handed "Stage Band" in red satin flame, apparently a cheaper model with centre placement tuning lugs. It is a gorgeous kit with a beautiful musical tone though."

Crumble, just a quick note to pass along to your friend. While the "Stage Band" drums were less expensive, the shells are the same and hardware the same quality as the double-lugged kits. The cost savings was in labor (only having to drill holes for one set of lugs) and of course, one less set of lugs.

I have always played double-lugged kits but a few years back scored a set of '65 Ludwig Club Dates. These are also single-lugged drums (although not haunted, dammit). There are theories that the single set of lugs actually interferes less with the shell resonating, hence producing a better tone the more expensive double-lugged ("Classics" I believe in Ludwig parlance... not sure if Slingerland had a similar name) drums.

Also, the satin flame wraps are "textured" and very easily scratched. To find such a kit from '65 that still looks "gorgeous" is pretty rare. Based on your assessment of the kit's tone and appearance, I'd say your friend made the right choice for the "cheaper" set of Slingys.

-murph

Hey Murph thanks for that and I'll pass that along to him right away.

Crazy,
Yeah..another point I didn't mention. When I bought the guitar, the dealer actually tried to talk me out of it. He was a tough old sort with a leathery pallor - could have been Keith Richards' lost cousin. He told me that he had sold it twice before but it kept coming back. He was reputable guy and refunded the purchase price in 24-48 hours if a customer wasn't happy. All he kept telling me was that his buyers told him the guitar "wasn't right". I discounted that - thought it was just southern folklore/mumbo-jumbo and bought the thing. Walking away from the dealer's table, another dealer next to his table said "Good Luck with that guitar" with a marked morbidity/seriousness" in his tone. (??!!)

At home, I admit, it sounded different but played extremely well. It "wasn't right" just didn't register until it blew the preamp section of two amps along with odd notes (that I didn't pick) coming out every so often. BTW - I don't drink when I practice or play.

But, like I said,a fresh set of strings took whatever was "in" the guitar out (I think).

J Mo'