Psycho..
in other words.. if you play out, post it, video it..etc.. you are bound to get criticism - i.e. people's opinion - good, bad, or indifferent. I don't have to bother with that because, deep down, I really don't care what people think of my musical skills. I only care. Very liberating, ya think??

J Mo'

psychonaut wrote:

Kids playing loud raucous music and a bunch of old men don't like it, that's nothing new!

"The Beatles? Just another noisey group copying other peoples music"
Joe Meek 1963

My mother was outraged when she saw the Beatles on Ed Sullivan (of course we were watching)

"I hope your brother David never grows hair like that!"

Sums it all up don't it?

Da Vinci Flinglestein,
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Again, what is the significance of that statement? What do you mean by that? Are you saying I'm too stupid to understand? Or do you mean a hack like myself is incapable of attaining comparable skills? I could read that several ways. I ask you for clarification and you give a smug response. Maybe it's your communication skills that are lacking

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Ok then since you won't clarify your statement, I'll just take it to mean you're implying a lack of intelligence on my part and a lack of capacity to achieve your skill set. OK...
As for bitterness, I'm not the one who feels the need to shit all over other peoples creations. I'll just leave it at that. Milk and cookies not withstanding, I'm very happy, I don't have to try thank you very much.
Going forward I'll just ignore your posts and refrain from replying to them, and I hope you choose to do likewise. It will be a much nicer place around here for it.

My appologies to everyone else. I didn't come here to fight or get in a pissing match with anyone. I always viewed this as a positive and encouraging place, but I guess not everyone thinks like that. Oh well...

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Jake wrote that it gets to be called surf music because (correct me if I got this wrong) the scenesters to whom the bands belong like go think of themselves as a surf subculture.
I am still lost here. I am going to call my niece who a Gaulle lives in Greenpoint and ask get what it's all about.
Does surf just mean Eagle Rock hipster?

Squink Out!

JONPAUL wrote:

www.surfintheeye.com

JakeDobner wrote:

This is now a monthly occurrence where one of us finds a band that identifies as 'surf' we listen say it isn't, we are baffled as to why it could possibly be called surf.

I find these occurrences educational. The market needs studied. Soon, I will be part of 'the market' and I find it crucial to know who's doing what. As a student of pop music starting at age 6 I'm always interested in any form of any trend. And I'm old enough to remember the Beatles debut on Ed Sullivan.

"90% of science fiction is crap, but then 90% of everything is crap."
-Theodore Sturgeon

These bands that identify as surf, turns out they sell more and more records and play to many more people on tour. Are they surf music as we think of it, absolutely not. Are they 'surf', they say so and they have market share.

The power of positive thinking- and product positioning. We can learn from these rubes. Pop music is the history of most horrible noise imaginable trimmed, dipped, basted, sauteed, sugar coated and force fed down the throats of a willing youth culture be it the 70's, 80's (good God remember the 80's?) 90's up to and including this very moment.

That 10% is always up for grabs.

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Weezer? Yeah, that's a different set of roots.

I do like Hashpipe though.

Da Vinci Flinglestein,
The quest for the Tone, the tone of the Quest

The Syndicate of Surf on YouTube

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Here is their description from YouTube via Cool Clear Water Records:

Crushed Out is the shine in Little Richard's teeth, the hairspray in The Ronette's beehives, the bubblegum under Jerry Lee Lewis' shoe, the twinkle in Dick Dale's eye. We make rock&roll for raucous beach parties and speeding down country roads. We think the wild ocean and its killer sharks are beautiful. We find inspiration and friendship with the ghosts of rock&roll past. We are best friends and co-conspirators. We are a modern day love story.

So they have invoked the name of DD. HERETICS!!!

Da Vinci Flinglestein,
The quest for the Tone, the tone of the Quest

The Syndicate of Surf on YouTube

http://www.syndicateofsurf.com/

http://sharawaji.com/

http://surfrockradio.com/

JObeast wrote:

Surfer Magazine

This article mentions Weezer as an important contributor to the soundtrack of the surf subculture, ie the world of surfers. Also Jack Johnson.
I asked my niece in Brooklyn to find out how it is that Crushed Out, et al. get the surf appellation.

Again, what does it matter what they choose to call their music? How does it really affect you that you're so fixated on it? They get the apellation because that's what they call it period. There is no great conspiracy or copyright infringement going here.
What is this "surf subculture" which you keep refering to? I'm in Brooklyn often and play gigs in Williamsburgh and so forth, and I've never heard of a "surf subculture" or Crushed Out for that matter -- and I assure you I have my ear open to the local music scene and I'm pretty aware of what's going on around here.
Also, Brooklyn is a very big city, bigger than a lot of cities. Williamsburgh is just a small part of it and hipsters are not representative of Brooklyn at all, as a matter of fact most of them aren't even from there in the first place. There are hundreds of thousands of Hispanics, Jews, Italians, Russians, Blacks, Irish, etc... that were born and raised in Brkln that would take issue with Hipsters being used as emblematic of their hometown.

Don't worry too much about it though We're on the scene to school the Hipsters on real music. Here's a clip from a gig we played in Brooklyn back in May with one of the type of bands that you're on about. Notice how the young crowd genuinely appreciates it? It all comes down to what you get exposed to. (feel free to critique JM!)

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