Sonichris
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Posted on Jul 23 2015 10:19 AM
Awesome console Marty!
It's fun to think about how many people learned about music listening to these old stereos. And how our perceptions of what sounds good is likely based on some of these units. I love listening to music of the period on them, and often think that the music sounds the way it was meant to on these.
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Ron
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Posted on Jul 23 2015 11:08 AM
I realize this photo is neither a console nor stereo, but it does sound great for all those old mono records. The turntable is too ancient to use so a modern stereo turntable to a wye connection into the amp gets the job done. It's tube heaven. Sorry the photo is upside down, some dats are like that.
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Nokie
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Posted on Jul 23 2015 02:49 PM
Nokie wrote:
Nokie wrote:
Sonichris wrote:
Awesome console Marty!
It's fun to think about how many people learned about music listening to these old stereos. And how our perceptions of what sounds good is likely based on some of these units. I love listening to music of the period on them, and often think that the music sounds the way it was meant to on these.
Thanks Chris. I just looked at your amazing collection. They are to die for!!
Part of why I like to hear the old recordings on this system is the listening orientation. The console experience was never about sitting in the middle of the room with a remote control selecting tracks and trying to determine if all 5.1 speakers of the surround sound system were operating properly. I do love 5.1 recordings but this is a different thing. With a console back in the '60's and '70's, I was always sitting on the floor just a foot or two in front of the system, changing albums, adjusting volume, bass and treble, etc... It put the music more in your face and I loved it. I'd forgotten that experience but it all came back after I refinished this one this year. -Marty
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Sonichris
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Posted on Jul 23 2015 04:24 PM
^ yes!
Listening to LP's on an old stereo is a very active experience. Reading the covers, removing the record, possibly dusting it off, putting it on the turntable, flipping it over, fiddling with the knobs. The smell of the tubes, learning each song on each side. It's very different from the way we listen to most music today.
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Nokie
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Posted on Jul 24 2015 12:45 AM
Sonichris wrote:
^ yes!
Listening to LP's on an old stereo is a very active experience. Reading the covers, removing the record, possibly dusting it off, putting it on the turntable, flipping it over, fiddling with the knobs. The smell of the tubes, learning each song on each side. It's very different from the way we listen to most music today.
Yeah, I'll go along with those additions to the point. I would say the convenience of modern formats takes a lot out of the experience but maybe I should say it changes the focus of the experience. For example, one could argue that the digital age is ideal for dance music - another active but very different involvement in the music. If the focus is on dancing, no one is looking at album art - it's more functional and an mp3 is fine. On the other hand, the old console experience was not ideal for dancing as the stomping in the room and/or increased bass and drums could jump the needle. The console was more for the listening and involving oneself in the album experience that included the artwork, the smell of the old cardboard, the dedication to reducing static and giving proper weight and anti-skate to the stylus as well as the other things you mentioned. -Marty
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Gilette
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Posted on Jul 24 2015 02:39 AM
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Clarry
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Posted on Jul 24 2015 10:17 AM
My dad brought one of these back from Singapore in the late 60s, but without the tape deck.
My first memories of being aware of it are back in the early 70s listening to my Dad putting on the LPs of Rubber Soul and Mann Made Hits.
It's now under my mother's staircase and she won't let me liberate it.

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Nokie
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Posted on Jul 24 2015 04:02 PM
Clarry wrote:
My dad brought one of these back from Singapore in the late 60s, but without the tape deck.
My first memories of being aware of it are back in the early 70s listening to my Dad putting on the LPs of Rubber Soul and Mann Made Hits.
It's now under my mother's staircase and she won't let me liberate it.

Now that's unfortunate, usually Mom's are anxious to lose the old consoles.
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Nokie
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Posted on Jul 24 2015 04:15 PM
morphball wrote:
I grew up with these big audio system furniture pieces, and now that I'm 41 and not so impressed with LED's and blinking lights, I really miss them. As a kid, there was one in every house where I spent significant time in, and I still remember borrowing my Dad's Chet Atkins and my Mom's Elvis records and just zoning on the floor. I'm especially in love with old Grundigs right now, and hope I can find one to restore (and possibly to make some tasteful updates for CD and MP3 playback). Anyone using one for their listening rituals? Did you install new speakers, turntables, etc.? Does anyone think old record players are at all damaging to records?


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Indeed, some of the old turntables that don't have weight controls on their tone arms are not ideal for records. If that's the type of player you have, its best not to play your better records on it and reserve it for records from the dollar bin. The picture of my Fisher console (a few posts back) is misleading as I show it with a Chet LP. It in fact does not have a turntable anymore. When I acquired the well worn system, the turntable was gone. I opted to put a CD changer in the place of the turntable. I play the CD version of the Chet LP from the Bear Family box set as well as Ventures CD's as I ponder the respective LP cover art. A turntable in a console is not great as the close proximity of the speakers contribute significantly to rumble when the volume goes up. You have to watch the bass and loudness settings.
Alternatively, I could have put a reel to reel deck in the console to make it more of a '60's experience. I like the looks of those posts that show that variation. I do have a couple of reel to reel decks and a good number of reel tapes but I'm too lazy to deal with 'em and I can achieve the old experience with out the downsides using the CD player. -Marty
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morphball
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Posted on Sep 07 2015 09:06 PM
Sonichris wrote:
And here's my latest pride and joy. I took a bit of a page from Morphball on this one. Originally, the one above had the radio added later, and it was kind of messed up when trying to add an iPod hookup. Plus, the TT was shot. I took a chance on another '59 Motorola that had a bit more power, bigger speakers, and some more control over external hook ups. It also had another TT. Sadly, both the TT AND the cabinet in that one was totally shot. Junk. But all the tube driven parts were good. So I used the tube preamp and power amp from the new one TO "update" the blonde one above so I could have my iPod connection. But I ended up with almost enough parts to build another one. That's when I ran into this little Magnavox cabinet.

I decided to put the leftover Motorola parts into the Magnavox cabinet. I put the giant 15" center speaker in the main cabinet, and built 2 outside speakers to hold the main speakers. (I also cut the holy living crap out of my left finger on a saw, and had to get 10 stitches during the small speaker build.)
I have enough turntable console stereos. So this one got a small TV, and an Apple TV box too. It also has an iPod hookup. So I can watch YouTube, or Netflix, or stream my iTunes directly to this stereo. It sounds great I think! It's kind of like an video jukebox. I have playlists on YouTube set up, and can just watch and listen for hours.
Here's some pics and a video.



I am way late for heaping some praise on this project, but wow, this definitely turned out REALLY cool! (And ouch, sorry about your finger... hope it wasn't one of your fretting ones?) That's a great idea to stealth the monitor like that, and to put an Apple TV in there to pretty much do whatever you'd need it to. When the Raspberry Pi 2 came out, I briefly entertained something similar, maybe getting the type of console that came with a TV, and somehow getting the monitor mounted where it didn't look too strange (like maybe getting it behind the original glass somehow), but something like that will definitely have to wait. I'm still loving the Grundig though. I hardly use the touch-screen at all, usually just opting to beam audio from computer instead, but time and resources well-spent for sure.
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Sonichris
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Posted on Sep 08 2015 09:52 PM
Thanks Mike! it was fun to build, despite my injury, which BTW, WAS a fretting finger, my index finger on my left hand. It's my favorite finger, since I'm left handed. 3 months later, it's finally starting to feel like MY finger again. Playing guitar was painful at first, and uncomfortable for quite a while. I suffered though gigs, but playing for fun wasn't fun, and I haven't played as much as usual. It's finally getting better.
I kind of wish I had spent more time matching the new speakers to the old cabinet, but after I cut myself, I just wanted it finished, and pushed to get it done. I was also disappointed that the grill cloth I ordered didn't match even a little. Still, I really like the finished piece, and use it almost every day.
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Donald77
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Posted on Oct 01 2015 02:18 AM
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tahitijack
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Posted on Oct 01 2015 11:10 AM
Always enjoy a look back to these audio delights. I was a component guy but my rig was stolen years ago: Marantz 2220B, Duel 1019, Acoustic Research 2ax. Gone but not forgotten. There was nothing like the blue am/fm dial, the gyro tuning wheel, the meters telling when you were locked into a strong signal while the "stereo" light lighted up.
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