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Permalink Los Apollos finally record an album! (teaser song inside)

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Yes, we finally found some time to record the heap of songs that piled up over the last few years, which will make sufficient material for a whole album. Big thanks already go out to Ralf Kilauea for lending out one of his reverb tanks for this!

We are going to start next Thursday and will hopefully have done the main part of the work by the end of Sunday (we will mostly record playing live). I will try to post some stuff about the recording process here.

One of the tracks on the new album will be called "Crossing Panama Bay."

Los Apollos - cinematic surf music trio (Berlin)
"Postcards from the Scrapyard" Vol. 1, 2 & 3 NOW available on various platforms!
"Chaos at the Lobster Lounge" available as LP and download on Surf Cookie Records!

Great news!

Rev

Canadian Surf

http://www.urbansurfkings.com/

Best of luck with that Simon Cheers

Danny Snyder

"With great reverb comes great responsibility" - Uncle Leo

Playing keys and guitar with Combo Tezeta

Formerly a guitarist in The TomorrowMen and Meshugga Beach Party

Latest surf project - Now That's What I Call SURF

Thanks guys!

Los Apollos - cinematic surf music trio (Berlin)
"Postcards from the Scrapyard" Vol. 1, 2 & 3 NOW available on various platforms!
"Chaos at the Lobster Lounge" available as LP and download on Surf Cookie Records!

Starting today, or actually yesterday: Drums are already set up and miked; the plan for today's evening is to set up bass and then guitar and then do some test recordings to see if everything is working. If things go well we will hopefully be able to record the first real takes tomorrow evening. Since we all have to work during the weekdays our time is quite limited, and the only full recording days will be Saturday and Sunday. It's going to be a lot of work, but I am still very excited to have the chance to do this. Smile

I'll try to take some pictures of the setup or maybe even a short videos of the process.

Los Apollos - cinematic surf music trio (Berlin)
"Postcards from the Scrapyard" Vol. 1, 2 & 3 NOW available on various platforms!
"Chaos at the Lobster Lounge" available as LP and download on Surf Cookie Records!

We had only very little time yesterday: I work out of town at the moment and my train back in was half an hour late and I still had to pick up a few things at home before going to our little studio. But we managed to set up bass and guitar as planned and do some test recordings, which worked out fine after some tweaking: Originally I planned to record my guitar with reverb and everything through my amp AND also get a dry signal through a nice tube guitar-preamp as a backup. Unfortunately there was a lot of humming coming through the amp as soon as the preamp was plugged into the mixing board, so we let that be for the time being. Maybe we figure it out today, but I don't think it will really be necessary.

This is the guitar setup:
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My trusty Stratocaster, my Fender Hot Rod deluxe (Special Edition) and Ralf Kilauea's fantastic tube reverb. In front of the amp are two mikes; ne goes directy into the mixing board, the other one first passes a custom tube preamp you can see on the lower right corner of the picture. I also use a EHX Memory Toy for some echo and a Danelectro CC Tremolo, which are not in the picture. (The POD and most of the other stuff belong to the metal band, with whom we are sharing the room.)

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The bass is running through some pedals (Comp, EQ, reverb(!)) into a Music Man top with a 1x15 box. (Again, lots of unused metal gear in the picture.)

And here is our drummer and sound guy tinkering with some settings of the audio interface. The vintage Yamaha amp is only used as a monitor at the moment.
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That's all for the first evening.

Los Apollos - cinematic surf music trio (Berlin)
"Postcards from the Scrapyard" Vol. 1, 2 & 3 NOW available on various platforms!
"Chaos at the Lobster Lounge" available as LP and download on Surf Cookie Records!

Last edited: Mar 04, 2016 01:52:36

That was one heavy weekend... (and it's not over yet.)

After setting the sound on Thursday we met again on Friday evening and first did some more tweaking on the bass and guitar sound. I liked the sound we had dialed in the day before, but this time we managed to achieve an even better sound through a little different position of the microphones. Then we started recording and acutally managed to catch very good takes of three songs and a fourth one, which we agreed to better try again the next day. This was definitely more than I expected and even besides that I was suprised how smooth everything went. Even though we had of course to do multiple takes before one was good enough to keep, from my previous experiences with recording (though quite limited) I had anticipated more tension and frustration. But everybody was in a good mood and we managed to laugh off our mistakes quite easily. Around 10pm we decided to quit for the day and to meet again at 11am on Saturday.

Saturday was going to be the first of two full days for recording and we knew we had a lot to do. While the first three songs again went without much trouble, the fourth one proved to be a lot more difficult, since there is a quite tricky change in the middle of the song, which each of us took his turn to miss... After the sixth take or so we thought about splitting the song for recording, but after we did that we also succeeded in playing a continuous take!

After some rather easy songs another problem arose, when we tried a song that involves a lot of double picking: I have no problem to play this song two or three times in a row, but after that my hands began to fail me, and we had to postpone the song. A similar issue came with one of the newer tracks, that has a double picking part, which I actually never felt quite comfortable with. Sometimes I hit it off, sometimes I don't, which is not a good state of playing, when it comes to recording something. One take was okay-ish, but I knew the sloppiness of my playing would bug me, when I listen to the song later, so we had another song for the re-do list... So things started to get a bit frustrating, however we ended the Saturday on a positive vibe, since we managed to do a decent take of the afore mentioned double picking song (for which I will never the less have to do a new guitar solo later) and another rather tricky tune. We closed the doors sometime after 7pm and agreed to start yet again at 11am.

Sunday promised to be a more relaxed day: We only had two more songs on the schedule plus the re-take of the uncomfortable leftover from Saturday. The first song again went over pretty easily, the second however proved to be difficult for our bass player; and when we finally had a satisfying take I had yet again screwed up during my solo... (another second one for the overdub list). Then we went back to the Saturday left-over and it really didn't get better. We finally agreed that I would overdub the problematic double picking part over the best take we had so far. And I did a perfect take at the first try! However someone forgot to hit the record button...

Afterwards one mistake followed the other and after 20 minutes my frustation got the better of me. My bandmates suggested to further split the part for the recording, but from my perspective that only would have pushed aside the real problem: I can't play this stuff consistently! In a live situation I manage to mingle my way through it, and once the song is over, nobody but me has noticed the mistakes. The question is: Is this really the way I want to play this song? (The answer is no.)

After a short break, we came up with a new version of the song, which moves the tune in a quite different direction and (I think) will also add something new to the record. And we managed to record it in a single take after practicing it two times! Smile

There was one song left on the list, and this time it was our drummer's turn to be challenged. However the song is so easy to play for us other guys that it was no problem to do the necessary number of takes. What was left to do were the overdubs of two guitar solos and after listening again to what we had recorded over the last days it became apparent, that we also had to re-do one more song. Luckly we anticipated that we would probably need some extra time and made sure we could use the room for an additional evening today.

Two overdubs and one song should be manageable, and as you have probably guessed from this report, I will be very glad, when we are finally finished. Playing in the studio has been somewhat a humbling experience for me and my respect for the people, who have recorded my favorite albums, has grown yet to another level. And as much as I love playing in a band, working in the studio I honestly don't, even though my bandmates (who have considerable more experience in this than me) assured me, that the sessions have gone extremely well and productive: 13 songs in under three days!

Once I have some distance from the experience of the sessions, everything will probably be fine. The plan wasn't to make a "perfect" album anyway, but rather something that transports different moods, has a little edge to it and (most importantly) conveys the "sound" and approach we developed as a band over the last two years. And I think the album will do just that and will turn out pretty well. Then we will have to see, if other people like it, too. Whatever

Wish me luck for the final hours! Uh-Oh

Los Apollos - cinematic surf music trio (Berlin)
"Postcards from the Scrapyard" Vol. 1, 2 & 3 NOW available on various platforms!
"Chaos at the Lobster Lounge" available as LP and download on Surf Cookie Records!

Last edited: Jul 20, 2015 05:52:11

Congrats!

Your recording space reminds me a lot of the "Boatwerx" downstairs in the basement........wires for days.

Are those "Pilsner Urquell" bottles?

The final hours are the longest. Hang in there.

Detail oriented Ed

Traditional........speak softly and play through a big blonde amp. Did I mention that I still like big blonde amps?

go Simon go! Looking forward to your songs!
LoeD

here comes the WEST SAMOA SURFER LEAGUE

... you have not started mixing yet, right ;) ...
yours wolfi

http://www.surfgrammeln-san.org
https://www.facebook.com/BaluUndSurfgrammeln
http://greencookierecords.bandcamp.com/album/coming-out-soon-los-chicharrones-del-surf-10

Thanks guys! I'm already back at home, everything is done and my mood has gotten considerably better already. The overdubs were a bit annoying, especially since it's monday, which means that the extremly loud noise band next door is back at practice (they seem to be there every weekday!). The re-take wasn't exactly better than the other takes, but at least it was faster. Big Grin

ediekatcher wrote:

Are those "Pilsner Urquell" bottles?

Yes, indeed! But there are also some Beck's and some Lübzer.

ElBirkerio wrote:

... you have not started mixing yet, right ;) ...

You mean, like cocktails?

Los Apollos - cinematic surf music trio (Berlin)
"Postcards from the Scrapyard" Vol. 1, 2 & 3 NOW available on various platforms!
"Chaos at the Lobster Lounge" available as LP and download on Surf Cookie Records!

Last edited: Jul 21, 2015 03:54:09

my recent experience was 3 hrs of recording, 2 months of mixing ...
yours wolfi

http://www.surfgrammeln-san.org
https://www.facebook.com/BaluUndSurfgrammeln
http://greencookierecords.bandcamp.com/album/coming-out-soon-los-chicharrones-del-surf-10

I probably better not think about it. Dead Thread

Los Apollos - cinematic surf music trio (Berlin)
"Postcards from the Scrapyard" Vol. 1, 2 & 3 NOW available on various platforms!
"Chaos at the Lobster Lounge" available as LP and download on Surf Cookie Records!

... drugs help ...

http://www.surfgrammeln-san.org
https://www.facebook.com/BaluUndSurfgrammeln
http://greencookierecords.bandcamp.com/album/coming-out-soon-los-chicharrones-del-surf-10

We are still mixing the tracks, but for everyone interested one of the new tunes will be featured as a preview on NSSR this Saturday during Sancho Pansen's show "Ten Tons of Wet" (CET 23.00 / PST 1PM / EST 3PM). Cool

Los Apollos - cinematic surf music trio (Berlin)
"Postcards from the Scrapyard" Vol. 1, 2 & 3 NOW available on various platforms!
"Chaos at the Lobster Lounge" available as LP and download on Surf Cookie Records!

Did anybody listen?

Los Apollos - cinematic surf music trio (Berlin)
"Postcards from the Scrapyard" Vol. 1, 2 & 3 NOW available on various platforms!
"Chaos at the Lobster Lounge" available as LP and download on Surf Cookie Records!

yessir!

http://www.surfgrammeln-san.org
https://www.facebook.com/BaluUndSurfgrammeln
http://greencookierecords.bandcamp.com/album/coming-out-soon-los-chicharrones-del-surf-10

I would listen but I'm in the shallow end of the techno-logical gene pool.

Da Vinci Flinglestein,
The quest for the Tone, the tone of the Quest

The Syndicate of Surf on YouTube

http://www.syndicateofsurf.com/

http://sharawaji.com/

http://surfrockradio.com/

Syndicateofsurf wrote:

I would listen but I'm in the shallow end of the techno-logical gene pool.

Sorry, but this time it was a one-time-only preview. You should really try to get NSSR running for you! There is so much great (and mostly unknown) surf music to listen to!

ElBirkerio wrote:

yessir!

Aaaaand? Is it Thumbs Down or Thumbs Up ?

(Or is it Man... or Astro-man?)

Los Apollos - cinematic surf music trio (Berlin)
"Postcards from the Scrapyard" Vol. 1, 2 & 3 NOW available on various platforms!
"Chaos at the Lobster Lounge" available as LP and download on Surf Cookie Records!

simoncoil wrote:

Syndicateofsurf wrote:

I would listen but I'm in the shallow end of the techno-logical gene pool.

Sorry, but this time it was a one-time-only preview. You should really try to get NSSR running for you! There is so much great (and mostly unknown) surf music to listen to!

ElBirkerio wrote:

yessir!

Aaaaand? Is it Thumbs Down or Thumbs Up ?

(Or is it Man... or Astro-man?)

Sorry, could you post your reply again? MaryAnne is tired of making electricity for us and the the Skipper and the Professor are no where to be found. What if I'm the only one left on the island???

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Da Vinci Flinglestein,
The quest for the Tone, the tone of the Quest

The Syndicate of Surf on YouTube

http://www.syndicateofsurf.com/

http://sharawaji.com/

http://surfrockradio.com/

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