JObeast
Joined: Jul 24, 2012
Posts: 2762
Finknabad, Squinkistan
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Posted on Jun 25 2015 09:29 PM
Mosrite pickups are nothing like P90s. They are as hot as HB's but not as loose as P90s. Very different design and sound characteristic.
Frelonvert wrote:
Mark2Bra wrote:
I really like the short scale of the Jaguar , but not its thin tone.
Lately I really dig the Mosrite P90 sound (probably affected by The Volcanos)
Please forgive my ignorance but if I put P90 shaped like Humbuckers into this abomination:
How good will it work? (Or maybe an SG will be more suitable)
How close will it bring me close to a Mosrite sound?
Cheers ,
Mark.
Why not buy a Fender modern jaguar instead ? these are cheap, with p90 and very good players.
— Squink Out!
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Mark2Bra
Joined: Sep 01, 2013
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Posted on Jun 25 2015 10:30 PM
The only offsets that are sold in my place are blacktops and a special JM
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JObeast
Joined: Jul 24, 2012
Posts: 2762
Finknabad, Squinkistan
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Posted on Jun 25 2015 10:33 PM
Dude, buy a used guitar. What's the point of paying top dollar? Guitars are very durable and age well. They also lose significant value as soon as they leave the sales floor.
Mark2Bra wrote:
The only offsets that are sold in my place are blacktops and a special JM
— Squink Out!
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JakeDobner
Joined: Feb 26, 2006
Posts: 12159
Seattle
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Posted on Jun 25 2015 10:55 PM
Never buy new. A used guitar is generally going to play much better, as it will likely have had a setup and things will have settled.
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JObeast
Joined: Jul 24, 2012
Posts: 2762
Finknabad, Squinkistan
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Posted on Jun 26 2015 12:27 AM
Lissen to the man. He knows from what he speaks.
JakeDobner wrote:
Never buy new. A used guitar is generally going to play much better, as it will likely have had a setup and things will have settled.
— Squink Out!
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planish
Joined: Jan 09, 2008
Posts: 473
Sackville, New Brunswick
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Posted on Jun 26 2015 02:56 AM
What is that red guitar that Dave Arnson (of insect Surfers) plays? Is it a vintage SG or something he built? I seem to recall that it had P-90s and an whammy bar.
Now I see pix of a blue one too, on http://www.insectsurfers.com/band_photos/ .
— I'm not a complete idiot. Some parts are missing.
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Mark2Bra
Joined: Sep 01, 2013
Posts: 248
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Posted on Jun 26 2015 05:36 AM
Dude, buy a used guitar
I'd be glad to , but will you believe me if I told you that no one plays offset guitars in my place? It is extremely rare to find one being sold , thus I think about other ways. . .
Mosrite pickups are nothing like P90s. They are as hot as HB's but not as loose as P90s. Very different design and sound characteristic.
Er. . . are they close to stacked humbuckers than?
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czech-one-2
Joined: Aug 06, 2009
Posts: 94
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Posted on Jun 26 2015 08:47 AM
I'm a newb here, can somebody school me as to why offset body's have become a key ingredient to making a guitar a 'surf' guitar? 
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novamax
Joined: Jan 23, 2015
Posts: 105
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Posted on Jun 26 2015 08:56 AM
Well - They happened to come out when surf music was popular.
And there are some guitars with non-offset body and non-offset sound that are used in surf music (Stratocaster, for example). But they have a different sound from an Offset guitar, because...
... although the unusual body shape may be blamed for the name "offset", I'd say it's less the offset body than more the typical rocking bridge with low break angle, therefore less bridge pressure and ringing of the "secondary string" behind the bridge that makes an offset guitar sound so greatly offset-ting 
YMMV
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Syndicateofsurf
Joined: Oct 08, 2014
Posts: 1073
Northern Ohio
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Posted on Jun 26 2015 09:07 AM
novamax wrote:
Well - They happened to come out when surf music was popular.
And there are some guitars with non-offset body and non-offset sound that are used in surf music (Stratocaster, for example). But they have a different sound from an Offset guitar, because...
... although the unusual body shape may be blamed for the name "offset", I'd say it's less the offset body than more the typical rocking bridge with low break angle, therefore less bridge pressure and ringing of the "secondary string" behind the bridge that makes an offset guitar sound so greatly offset-ting
YMMV
This is to czech-one-2: I don't understand a 1/10 of what these guys say but I don't let it stop me. As time passes, some of it does sink in. Instinct has brought me here and most all my guitars are funny-shaped so, win-win.
— Da Vinci Flinglestein,
The quest for the Tone, the tone of the Quest
The Syndicate of Surf on YouTube
http://www.syndicateofsurf.com/
http://sharawaji.com/
http://surfrockradio.com/
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JakeDobner
Joined: Feb 26, 2006
Posts: 12159
Seattle
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Posted on Jun 26 2015 09:57 AM
czech-one-2 wrote:
I'm a newb here, can somebody school me as to why offset body's have become a key ingredient to making a guitar a 'surf' guitar?
Offset bodies have no relation as to why they have become a surf guitar. The visual aesthetic is one reason they are associated with surf guitar.
And let us remember Strats are very popular surf guitars.
Fender single coil pickups and vibrato are associated with surf guitar. They produce a sound unique to most other single coils and you find it all over most surf recordings.
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JakeDobner
Joined: Feb 26, 2006
Posts: 12159
Seattle
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Posted on Jun 26 2015 10:01 AM
Mark2Bra wrote:
Er. . . are they close to stacked humbuckers than?
No, Mosrite pickups are nothing like stacked humbuckers.
There are many different ways to layout magnets on a pickup and then different ways you can wrap the wire. These are what make pickups different. There are even different types of magnets material used.
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Mark2Bra
Joined: Sep 01, 2013
Posts: 248
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Posted on Jun 26 2015 10:35 AM
Thanks Jake.
I guess I should leave my tinkering fantasies and keep an eye on 2nd hand posts. .
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JObeast
Joined: Jul 24, 2012
Posts: 2762
Finknabad, Squinkistan
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Posted on Jun 26 2015 10:39 AM
Dave plays a Pelham blue Epiphone SG copy.
planish wrote:
What is that red guitar that Dave Arnson (of insect Surfers) plays? Is it a vintage SG or something he built? I seem to recall that it had P-90s and an whammy bar.
Now I see pix of a blue one too, on http://www.insectsurfers.com/band_photos/ .
— Squink Out!
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czech-one-2
Joined: Aug 06, 2009
Posts: 94
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Posted on Jun 26 2015 12:35 PM
Thanks...that clears things up! 
Really, I do like weird, mutant-y looking guitars though. And I'm gassing for one of those new hallmark mosrite-y things. Too bad they aren't for sale in the EU.Heck, I'd sell my tele and Epiphone to get one! 
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Syndicateofsurf
Joined: Oct 08, 2014
Posts: 1073
Northern Ohio
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Posted on Jun 28 2015 07:51 AM
czech-one-2 wrote:
Thanks...that clears things up!
Really, I do like weird, mutant-y looking guitars though. And I'm gassing for one of those new hallmark mosrite-y things. Too bad they aren't for sale in the EU.Heck, I'd sell my tele and Epiphone to get one!
Thanks czech- now I want one too. Johnny Ramone model or whammy bar model, Johnny Ramone model or whammy bar model.... Oh the humanity....It's a battle of the genres!
— Da Vinci Flinglestein,
The quest for the Tone, the tone of the Quest
The Syndicate of Surf on YouTube
http://www.syndicateofsurf.com/
http://sharawaji.com/
http://surfrockradio.com/
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tp_smith
Joined: Jun 23, 2013
Posts: 25
Boston/Worcester, MA
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Posted on Jun 28 2015 07:38 PM
Reverend Jetstream 390. I have one and it can certainly surf. I also have a Dipinto Galaxie 4 -- which has been fun, totally different flavors
I'd say your best bet is to try to find place to try stuff out first though. Buying a guitar without trying it first (online).... can be tough
— http://www.theesonomatics.com
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novamax
Joined: Jan 23, 2015
Posts: 105
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Posted on Jun 29 2015 03:22 PM
A Friend of mine owns a reverend, great guitar. Just looked up the 390 - What does it sound like? Just asking because the bridge seems to be non-offset-style...?
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Frelonvert
Joined: Sep 21, 2009
Posts: 275
Toulouse
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Posted on Jun 30 2015 08:52 AM
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Syndicateofsurf
Joined: Oct 08, 2014
Posts: 1073
Northern Ohio
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Posted on Jun 30 2015 09:12 AM
Frelonvert wrote:
Modern player mustang ?
Shiny. Where's the wiggle stick?
— Da Vinci Flinglestein,
The quest for the Tone, the tone of the Quest
The Syndicate of Surf on YouTube
http://www.syndicateofsurf.com/
http://sharawaji.com/
http://surfrockradio.com/
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