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Friends,

As a player of Fender Showmans for almost 30 years, I can tell you that there are not many amps that can sound like one. However, I believe that I have come across an excellent alternative.

I submit too you the Peavey Session 400. Before you start squawking blasphemy, I am as surprised by this as you may be. Let me tell you the facts.

The Session 400 was designed in 1974 by Peavey to be the first purpose built Pedal Steel amp. It was designed with input from Curly Chaker and Buddy Emmons. If you don't know who they are, look em up. The Session 400 has all discreet circuits, great reverb, and a 15" JBL or Black Widow. It is 200 watts, and it is LOUD.

My Session is a 1979, is quiet, sounds absolutely fantastic with my Emmons pedal steel, and as good with a Jazzmaster. It is certainly better than most Twins, and a lot of that is due to the 15" speaker.

I paid $300 for mine, and it came with a JBL D130. That is like getting the amp for $100! These came originally with a K 130, but they had too many blown speakers, so they designed the Black Widow as a replacement for the JBL. Wonderful speaker. I took out the D 130, and replaced it with an Emminence EPS 15. This is a direct JBL copy designed for Pedal steel, and is rated at 300 watts.

The original Session 400 or Session 400 LTD is the one to get. There is a later Session 400 Limited. Avoid this one. And Peavey still stocks all the parts for repair! Not that that is likely, but good to know.

Laugh all you want, but I'm telling you , your ears will be happy. So that no one will know, you could recover it to look Fendery,I suppose. And if you play pedal like I do, well, there is a reason it is still a standard 40 years later.

Good luck, and flame away!

Mel
Phantom Surfers
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You won't get any flames from me.
I love alternative gear and my bandmates and I have discussed what a great Surf amp the Session 400 would be.
It has all the ingredients, verb, loud and clean, trem, 15" speaker and built solid.
When we started thinking about solid state and alternative amps this was one of the first that came up.
Then again, we have a steel player in our band
Great score, congrats!

If it sounds good, it is good. It can actually be that simple.

Cheers,
Jeff

http://www.facebook.com/CrazyAcesMusic
http://www.youtube.com/user/crazyacesrock
http://www.reverbnation.com/crazyacesmusic

You'll get no static from me. There are no absolutes. I've seen a Marshall being used in the Ventures and it sounded just fine. A good, competent, amplifier is what really counts. People forget that you can turn those knobs and adapt the sound. One of the best Instrumental Rock sounds I ever attained was with a Peavey Delta Blues. Peavey makes some great, great amps.

The artist formerly known as: Synchro

When Surf Guitar is outlawed only outlaws will play Surf Guitar.

On this video, Ralf Kilauea is playing thru Yamaha solid state amps. Cheap alternatives are more than welcome !

http://noskons.bandcamp.com/

I was in a band with a steel player that had one of these; killer amp.
And if you don't have JBL hard-wired in your DNA the Black Widow 15 has never been anything to sneeze at.

Nice score! Smile

Wes
SoCal ex-pat with a snow shovel

DISCLAIMER: The above is opinion/suggestion only & should not be used for mission planning/navigation, tweaking of instruments, beverage selection, or wardrobe choices.

The Session 400's are indeed mini-monsters. The PV 1501-4 is a great 4 ohm alternative surf guitar speaker. I have one in my single 15 tone ring cab and in Wild Bill's new single 15 mini bass Katcher Kab. Like my fave EV-15L's they are practically indestructible and are reasonably priced.

ed

Traditional........speak softly and play through a big blonde amp. Did I mention that I still like big blonde amps?

Twin alternative: Lab Series L5. Loud, full of tone and cheap. If the reverb was a little bit louder it would have been perfect. Good Accutronics tank though, so maybe a bit more tweaking should do the trick. I got this amp a while ago and liked it so much I ended up selling my '74 Twin.

Once in awhile, for kicks, I plug my Twin Reverb's output into a massive 2X15 Peavey 215BW bass cab, the deep early-80s one with two aluminum-dustcap Black Widow speakers installed. Wow! I wish I had the nerve to play through it all the time.

SSIV

It's quite interesting how good amps can sound when you just open your ears and your mind.

Peavey Valve King is a great surf amp alternative for tubes.
for solid state/modelling, the champion 100 by fender and the mustangs are very good. the champion 100 is WAY better than the 20 and 40, and is just a mustang without FUSE software.

I had a little VHT tube amp for awhile...loved that thing...It was very clean adn when paired wiht good pedals sounded VERY surfy.

You can get any sound you need if you try various combinations of gear. It does'nt always have to be a showman.

Speakers is where it's at, maybe more than anything else (besides single coils and spring reverb ahead of preamp). Solid state preamps derided by blooz players are just the thing for us!

Squink Out!

I've been blasphemous for a few months now.
My previous surf amps have been a Fender Princeton and a Peavey Classic 30.
At the moment, I'm using a Blackstar ID:260TVP.
Set to clean, with a hint of crunch, I've got plenty of onboard, digital Spring Reverb and a single, slap-back echo.
I kid you not, it sounds fantastic or should I say, Surftastic.
Cool

http://soundcloud.com/graham-pike

Has anyone ever tried one of the Peavey classic vt212's? The one I'm referring to is a 6l6 based 100 watt amp with reverb and phaser. They pop up pretty often real cheap. There's one on my local Craigslist right now for $125.

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