Syndicateofsurf
Joined: Oct 08, 2014
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Northern Ohio
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Posted on May 05 2015 01:35 PM
Yeah just like the heading says I needs me an engineer to clean up my tunes and prep them for release. I sorta have a recording deal maybe which I hope it works out but with or without a label this is a step I need to take.
This is for 11 songs all posted on YouTube under the playlist Studio Surf Styles Volume 1: Hodads Hang 10! . The link on my signature will take you right there. If this fails google me- Syndicate of Surf.
Send me a private message if you think you might be interested. Thanks to all you surfers, gremmies and hodads- you are making this happen for me- whatever 'this' is.
— Da Vinci Flinglestein,
The quest for the Tone, the tone of the Quest
The Syndicate of Surf on YouTube
http://www.syndicateofsurf.com/
http://sharawaji.com/
http://surfrockradio.com/
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Syndicateofsurf
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Posted on May 06 2015 06:07 AM
Bumping this myself due to the underwhelming response.
— Da Vinci Flinglestein,
The quest for the Tone, the tone of the Quest
The Syndicate of Surf on YouTube
http://www.syndicateofsurf.com/
http://sharawaji.com/
http://surfrockradio.com/
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DannySnyder
Joined: Mar 02, 2006
Posts: 11077
Berkeley, CA
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Posted on May 06 2015 09:12 AM
What exactly are you looking for, you're being vague. A recording engineer is there when you're actually recording. A mixing engineer will "clean them up" and adjust the balances for optimal effect. In either case, it's usually not cheap to get someone who can make your recordings sound professional enough for a label.
— Danny Snyder
"With great reverb comes great responsibility" - Uncle Leo
I am now playing trumpet with Prince Buster tribute band 'Balzac'
Playing keys and guitar with Combo Tezeta
Formerly a guitarist in The TomorrowMen and Meshugga Beach Party
Latest surf project - Now That's What I Call SURF
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Syndicateofsurf
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Posted on May 06 2015 09:19 AM
DannySnyder wrote:
What exactly are you looking for, you're being vague. A recording engineer is there when you're actually recording. A mixing engineer will "clean them up" and adjust the balances for optimal effect. In either case, it's usually not cheap to get someone who can make your recordings sound professional enough for a label.
Sorry. Mixing engineer. Yes, songs need cleaning up. Thank you for the response. New guy here. And yes, I certainly would like to know something about the cost. Anything would be helpful at this point.
— Da Vinci Flinglestein,
The quest for the Tone, the tone of the Quest
The Syndicate of Surf on YouTube
http://www.syndicateofsurf.com/
http://sharawaji.com/
http://surfrockradio.com/
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DannySnyder
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Posts: 11077
Berkeley, CA
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Posted on May 06 2015 09:25 AM
Good mixing for a full album can cost between $2 to $4K, don't forget mastering as well. It's a rather painstaking process, and if you do it long distance it requires a very good ability to communicate precise details to your engineer.
The desired final results you hear in your head is the culmination of many factors, and is what makes recording an album so challenging. I suggest you find a local mixing engineer and while sitting in the same room, try one song out.
— Danny Snyder
"With great reverb comes great responsibility" - Uncle Leo
I am now playing trumpet with Prince Buster tribute band 'Balzac'
Playing keys and guitar with Combo Tezeta
Formerly a guitarist in The TomorrowMen and Meshugga Beach Party
Latest surf project - Now That's What I Call SURF
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Syndicateofsurf
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Posts: 1073
Northern Ohio
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Posted on May 06 2015 09:43 AM
Thanks for the heads up Danny. Excuse me while I go throw up while crapping my bermudas.
— Da Vinci Flinglestein,
The quest for the Tone, the tone of the Quest
The Syndicate of Surf on YouTube
http://www.syndicateofsurf.com/
http://sharawaji.com/
http://surfrockradio.com/
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Syndicateofsurf
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Northern Ohio
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Posted on May 06 2015 09:55 AM
I'm back. Ok what about this- songs are recorded. Very little editing will be done. What I think I need is just the final mastering ie, sound levels balanced song to song and noise reduction especially at the beginning and ends of songs. I approached Phil Dirt but he said no thank you.
I mean, what did they do in the old days- crowd around 1 or 2 mikes?
— Da Vinci Flinglestein,
The quest for the Tone, the tone of the Quest
The Syndicate of Surf on YouTube
http://www.syndicateofsurf.com/
http://sharawaji.com/
http://surfrockradio.com/
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DannySnyder
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Posts: 11077
Berkeley, CA
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Posted on May 06 2015 10:07 AM
Nothing wrong with that approach, as long as you're happy with the final results. Why don't you change your thread title or start a new one asking for more general advice on how to prepare your recordings for release.
— Danny Snyder
"With great reverb comes great responsibility" - Uncle Leo
I am now playing trumpet with Prince Buster tribute band 'Balzac'
Playing keys and guitar with Combo Tezeta
Formerly a guitarist in The TomorrowMen and Meshugga Beach Party
Latest surf project - Now That's What I Call SURF
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Syndicateofsurf
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Posts: 1073
Northern Ohio
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Posted on May 06 2015 10:20 AM
DannySnyder wrote:
Nothing wrong with that approach, as long as you're happy with the final results. Why don't you change your thread title or start a new one asking for more general advice on how to prepare your recordings for release.
I will do as you are saying. Gracias!
— Da Vinci Flinglestein,
The quest for the Tone, the tone of the Quest
The Syndicate of Surf on YouTube
http://www.syndicateofsurf.com/
http://sharawaji.com/
http://surfrockradio.com/
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DannySnyder
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Posts: 11077
Berkeley, CA
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Posted on May 06 2015 10:21 AM
De Nada 
— Danny Snyder
"With great reverb comes great responsibility" - Uncle Leo
I am now playing trumpet with Prince Buster tribute band 'Balzac'
Playing keys and guitar with Combo Tezeta
Formerly a guitarist in The TomorrowMen and Meshugga Beach Party
Latest surf project - Now That's What I Call SURF
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spskins
Joined: Feb 27, 2006
Posts: 3795
tn
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Posted on May 06 2015 10:27 AM
Hey Syndicate. I listened to your track and there are some nice compositional ideas going on there. Good song.
In the old days, they experimented with mic placement, where the instruments were placed in the room, volume levels etc until they got the mix right BEFORE they started recording the song. We did a fair amount of our singles this way. It's fun, sounds more like the teen bands of the 60s recordings, and it's cheap!
If this is a demo for a label or some other deal, you shouldn't have to pay for your own mixing and mastering. You should be able to submit them as is as a "demo" to them and if they see potential, they should pay for a proper recording, mixing,and mastering if they want the song(s).
Are you playing all of the instruments or is it a band? I would say your cheapest option is to re-record the songs with more attention to the sounds and levels as you record so that it is pre-mixed, like the old days. Another option is researching some inexpensive mixing software (I'm sure there are people here that could make recommendations). Is each track in a separate channel now? How did you record it? Software or to tape?
Hope this helps.
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Last edited: May 06, 2015 10:28:19
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Syndicateofsurf
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Northern Ohio
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Posted on May 06 2015 10:40 AM
spskins wrote:
Hey Syndicate. I listened to your track and there are some nice compositional ideas going on there. Good song.
In the old days, they experimented with mic placement, where the instruments were placed in the room, volume levels etc until they got the mix right BEFORE they started recording the song. We did a fair amount of our singles this way. It's fun, sounds more like the teen bands of the 60s recordings, and it's cheap!
If this is a demo for a label or some other deal, you shouldn't have to pay for your own mixing and mastering. You should be able to submit them as is as a "demo" to them and if they see potential, they should pay for a proper recording, mixing,and mastering if they want the song(s).
Are you playing all of the instruments or is it a band? I would say your cheapest option is to re-record the songs with more attention to the sounds and levels as you record so that it is pre-mixed, like the old days. Another option is researching some inexpensive mixing software (I'm sure there are people here that could make recommendations). Is each track in a separate channel now? How did you record it? Software or to tape?
Hope this helps.
Well for starters it's just me. Each track is a separate channel. I use a TASCAM DP-03SD 8-track Digital Portastudio and then use it to just try to balance everything out, mess with compression and levels. And stuff.
Don't know what to say about the label at this point. Not sure about finances. Have not signed a thing yet. I'm drifting in a sea of ??????????????????????????????? marks. Glad you liked the song. Maybe I just need to remix it.
— Da Vinci Flinglestein,
The quest for the Tone, the tone of the Quest
The Syndicate of Surf on YouTube
http://www.syndicateofsurf.com/
http://sharawaji.com/
http://surfrockradio.com/
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spskins
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Posts: 3795
tn
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Posted on May 06 2015 10:47 AM
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Syndicateofsurf
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Posts: 1073
Northern Ohio
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Posted on May 06 2015 10:51 AM
spskins wrote:
Good job on the drums!
Yay! My first drum kudo! It's where I started making noises oh so long ago!
— Da Vinci Flinglestein,
The quest for the Tone, the tone of the Quest
The Syndicate of Surf on YouTube
http://www.syndicateofsurf.com/
http://sharawaji.com/
http://surfrockradio.com/
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