simoncoil
Joined: Sep 28, 2012
Posts: 910
Berlin, Germany
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Posted on Mar 27 2015 03:43 AM
Ah, Tsar Wars! It's one of these records that I have listened too so often in a short period of time, that afterwards I just couldn't put it on for a while any more. There are so many ideas, so many things to explore on the record that I just had to play it over and over and over again, but then I really had to take a break from the album (same thing as with the first Slacktone album and may other great records).
But the good thing is of course, that after a while I can start to listen to the record again, and the cycle restarts... (In fact it did this morning.)
I think it's a great idea to celebrate the anniversary of this album. Jake's dedication towards the record and the enthusiasm of him, Noel and Brian speaks for itself, I think. I mean: in the music industry such anniversaries usually focus on records, that are still in print and will then be rereleased nonetheless in a newly remastered version with newly "discovered" bonus material. But here we celebrate a record, which has been out of print for quite some time, just for the fun of it. How cool is that?
But of course I wouldn't mind a reissue of Tsar Wars, coupled with the unreleased live album from the Foothill Club (1998),
Ivan, will you be playing some Cossack's songs on the Surfer Joe Festival or are you already settled on Madeira material for this one?
— Los Apollos - cinematic surf music trio (Berlin)
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Clarry
Joined: Oct 01, 2014
Posts: 519
Streatham, London
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Posted on Mar 27 2015 04:24 AM
I read this and had to buy it last night...then my chubby fingers bought the wrong album by mistake (Never Mind The Bolsheviks)...
However, I loved the Surf with "Shadows" tones that are on a lot of the tracks. There's something I can't put my finger on which is very European.
So chubby finger has just purchased Tsar Wars too and is looking forward to listening on the journey home.
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djangodeadman
Joined: Jan 25, 2007
Posts: 1566
Brighton UK
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Posted on Mar 27 2015 04:36 AM
Clarry wrote:
I read this and had to buy it last night...then my chubby fingers bought the wrong album by mistake (Never Mind The Bolsheviks)...
However, I loved the Surf with "Shadows" tones that are on a lot of the tracks. There's something I can't put my finger on which is very European.
So chubby finger has just purchased Tsar Wars too and is looking forward to listening on the journey home.
Then go and get Interstellar Stomp. You won't be disappointed.
— Los Fantasticos
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Syndicateofsurf
Joined: Oct 08, 2014
Posts: 1073
Northern Ohio
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Posted on Mar 27 2015 06:21 AM
djangodeadman wrote:
Clarry wrote:
I read this and had to buy it last night...then my chubby fingers bought the wrong album by mistake (Never Mind The Bolsheviks)...
However, I loved the Surf with "Shadows" tones that are on a lot of the tracks. There's something I can't put my finger on which is very European.
So chubby finger has just purchased Tsar Wars too and is looking forward to listening on the journey home.
Then go and get Interstellar Stomp. You won't be disappointed.
Essential to get Interstellar Stomp. I got by on Never Mind The Bolsheviks (my 1st surf purchase) for a good long time. Then Tsar Wars magically reappeared just after I'd bought Stomp. You can't have too much Space Cossacks!
Getting the albums with the songs in their original proper sequence was a revelation. The flow is so important, as important as all the songs I was missing by just having the Bolsheviks collection.
BTW: I also have the split vinyl 7" with 2 songs each from The Space Cossacks and the Penetrators. The Cossacks songs are Neutron Sabre and Shark Attack. The Penetrators did Redlined and The Truant. Artwork by Rip Thrillby of the Penetrators. Gotta be one of my 10 favorite possessions.
— Da Vinci Flinglestein,
The quest for the Tone, the tone of the Quest
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bamboozer
Joined: Jan 18, 2010
Posts: 672
Delaware
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Posted on Mar 27 2015 06:35 AM
Just bought the album, can't wait to hear it. Have a good mind to go out to the Party Barn, crank it up and drink beer ( or wine, budget permitting ).
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Clarry
Joined: Oct 01, 2014
Posts: 519
Streatham, London
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Posted on Mar 27 2015 07:03 AM
Syndicateofsurf wrote:
djangodeadman wrote:
Clarry wrote:
I read this and had to buy it last night...then my chubby fingers bought the wrong album by mistake (Never Mind The Bolsheviks)...
However, I loved the Surf with "Shadows" tones that are on a lot of the tracks. There's something I can't put my finger on which is very European.
So chubby finger has just purchased Tsar Wars too and is looking forward to listening on the journey home.
Then go and get Interstellar Stomp. You won't be disappointed.
Essential to get Interstellar Stomp. I got by on Never Mind The Bolsheviks (my 1st surf purchase) for a good long time. Then Tsar Wars magically reappeared just after I'd bought Stomp. You can't have too much Space Cossacks!
Getting the albums with the songs in their original proper sequence was a revelation. The flow is so important, as important as all the songs I was missing by just having the Bolsheviks collection.
Like a couple of muggers, twisting my arms behind my back, and marching me to a cash-machine then demanding my PIN number, you have convinced me...
I'm trying to write a novel in a month for charity at the moment, so "support music" is definitely needed.
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Syndicateofsurf
Joined: Oct 08, 2014
Posts: 1073
Northern Ohio
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Posted on Mar 27 2015 07:06 AM
Resistance is futile.
Submit to- The Tone.
— Da Vinci Flinglestein,
The quest for the Tone, the tone of the Quest
The Syndicate of Surf on YouTube
http://www.syndicateofsurf.com/
http://sharawaji.com/
http://surfrockradio.com/
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IvanP
Joined: Feb 27, 2006
Posts: 10331
southern Michigan
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Posted on Mar 27 2015 07:28 AM
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bigtikidude
Joined: Feb 27, 2006
Posts: 25530
Anaheim(So.Cal.)U.S.A.
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Posted on Mar 27 2015 07:45 AM
Don't forget the Split 4 song EP with the Fathoms, on Musick records.
Also must have!
— Jeff(bigtikidude)
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bigtikidude
Joined: Feb 27, 2006
Posts: 25530
Anaheim(So.Cal.)U.S.A.
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Posted on Mar 27 2015 07:46 AM
Congrats Ivan and all the other Cossacks.
Amazing Album for sure.
Well deserved praise!
— Jeff(bigtikidude)
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Syndicateofsurf
Joined: Oct 08, 2014
Posts: 1073
Northern Ohio
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Posted on Mar 27 2015 08:22 AM
bigtikidude wrote:
Don't forget the Split 4 song EP with the Fathoms, on Musick records.
Also must have!
Noted. No wonder surf musicians are all broke- We have SO MUCH good music to buy!
— Da Vinci Flinglestein,
The quest for the Tone, the tone of the Quest
The Syndicate of Surf on YouTube
http://www.syndicateofsurf.com/
http://sharawaji.com/
http://surfrockradio.com/
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IvanP
Joined: Feb 27, 2006
Posts: 10331
southern Michigan
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Posted on Mar 27 2015 08:30 AM
Well, if we're listing the Cossacks split-EPs, there's also the one with the Hypnomen from Finland - "From The Shadow of the Evil Empire" (pun intended) - artwork also by Shag:
— Ivan
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Syndicateofsurf
Joined: Oct 08, 2014
Posts: 1073
Northern Ohio
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Posted on Mar 27 2015 08:48 AM
Darn your old world Dedication to the Progress and Productivity That Will Serve Us All Ivan!
I will simply smash my piggy-bank and be done with it.
Proletarians of all Surf Nations- Unite!
— Da Vinci Flinglestein,
The quest for the Tone, the tone of the Quest
The Syndicate of Surf on YouTube
http://www.syndicateofsurf.com/
http://sharawaji.com/
http://surfrockradio.com/
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bigtikidude
Joined: Feb 27, 2006
Posts: 25530
Anaheim(So.Cal.)U.S.A.
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Posted on Mar 27 2015 09:22 AM
IvanP wrote:
Well, if we're listing the Cossacks split-EPs, there's also the one with the Hypnomen from Finland - "From The Shadow of the Evil Empire" (pun intended) - artwork also by Shag:
Damn, I knew I was forgetting something.
Remember also the songs from the 4 tribute
Cds.
— Jeff(bigtikidude)
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el_camello
Joined: Jul 04, 2010
Posts: 369
Ottawa
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Posted on Mar 27 2015 10:13 AM
One of the first albums that got me into surf music. Was really into metal and the intensity of the Space Cossacks really hit the spot. Definitely a gateway album to surf music and gateway albums are always very special. Came for the Apes of Wrath, stayed for the Tsunami Tsurprise you could say.
— -Pierre
The Obsidians! (Ottawa surf)
The Obsidians debut EP
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Emilien03
Joined: Jul 16, 2008
Posts: 1368
Coyoacán, Distrito Federal
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Posted on Mar 27 2015 10:18 AM
Starting with the cover, the album is awesome.
Long time favorite since I first listen to it several years ago.
In my opinion it is one of those records you talk about when anybody asks
what is Surf Music?
I bought it on vinyl last Summer for $10 bucks from Art at the Convention.
— When you have to shoot ... shoot! Don't talk.
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IvanP
Joined: Feb 27, 2006
Posts: 10331
southern Michigan
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Posted on Mar 27 2015 11:38 AM
Thanks again for all compliments and wonderful reminisces everybody!
simoncoil wrote:
But of course I wouldn't mind a reissue of Tsar Wars, coupled with the unreleased live album from the Foothill Club (1998),
Simon, I doubt the Tsar Wars reissue will happen any time soon, if ever, but I do have great hope the '98 live recording will see the official light of day at some point, and hopefully sooner rather than later. I haven't discussed it with Art B. in a while, but I have been thinking a bit about it lately. I listened to it a couple of weeks ago again, and it's really a great-sounding document of possibly one of our best-ever shows, certainly in terms of our performances. I had hoped that the original 8-track multitracks still exist, but Art informed me some ago that they do not, so we just have this mixed version. The only thing I would have liked to fix on that version would be to lower the bass drum, but as is it is still really good. Anyway, stay tuned....
Ivan, will you be playing some Cossack's songs on the Surfer Joe Festival or are you already settled on Madeira material for this one?
Nope, it'll definitely be a mix of both! Much fun to be had, hopefully for the audience as much as for me!
— Ivan
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IvanP
Joined: Feb 27, 2006
Posts: 10331
southern Michigan
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Posted on Mar 27 2015 11:53 AM
Syndicateofsurf wrote:
Getting the albums with the songs in their original proper sequence was a revelation. The flow is so important, as important as all the songs I was missing by just having the Bolsheviks collection.
Thanks for this, I really appreciate it. Surf music hasn't really been known for 'albums' for much of its history, it was more about the singles or particular songs, but my background was in 'album-rock', starting with the Beatles. The ability of an album to really transport a person has been extremely influential on my own musical sensibilities, and that's what I wanted us to accomplish. Of course, there was The Ventures In Space, and that kind of a concept was also a big influence, so it did exist in surf music. And for my money still the best surf album ever is the Atlantics' 2nd album, "Now It's Stompin' Time". We strove to meet those high standards.
(I see people in the wider media saying the album is dead, and I flat out refuse to go along with them - to hell with those people! I love albums, I will always love albums, and I will always love bands that put their primary creative energies into albums.)
Clarry wrote:
However, I loved the Surf with "Shadows" tones that are on a lot of the tracks. There's something I can't put my finger on which is very European.
Well, I was born and raised in Europe. (Yugoslavia/Croatia)
el_camello wrote:
One of the first albums that got me into surf music. Was really into metal and the intensity of the Space Cossacks really hit the spot.
I love that two people listen to the Cossacks, and one hears "Shadows-Surf" and the other hears "metal-surf". Mission accomplished.
— Ivan
Lords of Atlantis on Facebook
The Madeira Official Website
The Madeira on Facebook
The Blair-Pongracic Band on Facebook
The Space Cossacks on Facebook
The Madeira Channel on YouTube
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el_camello
Joined: Jul 04, 2010
Posts: 369
Ottawa
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Posted on Mar 27 2015 05:46 PM
Actually to be fair what attracted me to Space Cossacks was that it WASN'T metal Was a revelation to hear what I love (melody, excitement, tremolo picking... tremolo bars!) in a whole new musical context. One that has a fun vibe to it. Metal can be pretty serious business!
In either way, yes, Mission accomplished on all fronts I would say!
Very excited to hear that Surfer Joe performance is in fact Space Cossacks and Madeira songs! Was planning on going and well, now I am that much more planning on going.
— -Pierre
The Obsidians! (Ottawa surf)
The Obsidians debut EP
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JakeDobner
Joined: Feb 26, 2006
Posts: 12159
Seattle
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Posted on Mar 27 2015 07:32 PM
IvanP wrote:
but I do have great hope the '98 live recording will see the official light of day at some point, and hopefully sooner rather than later.
Does Art own the tapes? If so/If not....
Crowdfund it! Especially if Art doesn't own the tapes, just set a $2000 goal to cover the pressing of $500 and everything after that is profit!
I'm not biased...
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