ChadShivers
Joined: Sep 07, 2010
Posts: 560
Atlanta
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Posted on Feb 27 2015 08:31 AM
I'm a guitar instructor in a suburb of Atlanta. A lot of kids like to learn to play tunes because as many of you know there's only so much scales, arpeggios, theory, technique, and reading one can handle. But the sad truth is that there's not much in the way of interesting guitar work in current pop music (or at least that I'm aware of). Kids aren't really coming in with stuff they'd like to learn so naturally, I turn to surf music and kids are generally pretty receptive. I've got a couple of kids right now that when we finish a piece, they'll say 'how about some more surf music?'. One of my students is currently learning Crazy Aces' "Boogie Bored" and we've done Takeshi Terauchi's version of "Black Sand Beach" and The Astronauts' "Surf Party". Another has also done "Black Sand Beach" and LOVES playing "Wipeout". Are they going home and listening to this stuff? Probably not, but at least they're showing some interest and learning some great music.
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MadScientist
Joined: Jan 17, 2008
Posts: 2188
Atlanta, GA
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Posted on Feb 27 2015 08:47 AM
"Learn To Play Guitar With The Ventures" Vol 1 and 2 were certainly records that helped me learn to play guitar when I was a teenager... You just never know what will stick or even hang around in their brains for them to come back to!
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Badger
Joined: Nov 16, 2013
Posts: 4537
Wisconsin
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Posted on Feb 27 2015 08:55 AM
That is great! And "look Ma!" no vocalist needed to show what the dollars have reaped. TERRIFIC!
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SoCal ex-pat with a snow shovel
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Noel
Joined: Mar 15, 2011
Posts: 8528
Back in Piitsburgh, Pennsylvania, where I grew up.
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Posted on Feb 27 2015 08:56 AM
ChadShivers wrote:
I'm a guitar instructor in a suburb of Atlanta. A lot of kids like to learn to play tunes because as many of you know there's only so much scales, arpeggios, theory, technique, and reading one can handle. But the sad truth is that there's not much in the way of interesting guitar work in current pop music (or at least that I'm aware of). Kids aren't really coming in with stuff they'd like to learn so naturally, I turn to surf music and kids are generally pretty receptive. I've got a couple of kids right now that when we finish a piece, they'll say 'how about some more surf music?'. One of my students is currently learning Crazy Aces' "Boogie Bored" and we've done Takeshi Terauchi's version of "Black Sand Beach" and The Astronauts' "Surf Party". Another has also done "Black Sand Beach" and LOVES playing "Wipeout". Are they going home and listening to this stuff? Probably not, but at least they're showing some interest and learning some great music.
This is terrific! Have you thought of getting them together to play surf music, as in the Sierra Surf Music Camp, or inviting them to an informal rehearsal? Wouldn't it be wonderful if they formed a band?
— This is Noel. Reverb's at maximum an' I'm givin' 'er all she's got.
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CrazyAces
Joined: Jul 31, 2012
Posts: 4054
Buffalo, N.Y.
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Posted on Feb 27 2015 09:25 AM
Chad,
That's so cool, it reminds me of when I was young and this music and Duane Eddy's was a magnet for me because of the strong melodies and easier accessibility to a beginner.
The fact that one of your students is learning "Boogie Bored" is probably one of the best compliments I've ever gotten. In writing our music I always try to create tunes that make a player of any proficiency want to and easily be able to pick out the melodies and parts - just like I enjoyed doing years ago.
Cheers,
Jeff
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Syndicateofsurf
Joined: Oct 08, 2014
Posts: 1073
Northern Ohio
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Posted on Feb 27 2015 09:33 AM
You could be saving children from mis-spending their youth! The only thing I remember from my guitar teacher is the riff from 'Rock n Roll' by Lou Reed. Oh the humanity!
— Da Vinci Flinglestein,
The quest for the Tone, the tone of the Quest
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CrazyAces
Joined: Jul 31, 2012
Posts: 4054
Buffalo, N.Y.
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Posted on Feb 27 2015 09:59 AM
Chad, those students are so lucky to have you as a teacher.
My only guitar "teacher" was a piano guy who tried not to fall asleep while I labored (in a very bored manner myself) through 4 of the Mel Bay books.
With your talent, guidance and passion they will flourish.
Cheers,
Jeff
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Noel
Joined: Mar 15, 2011
Posts: 8528
Back in Piitsburgh, Pennsylvania, where I grew up.
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Posted on Feb 27 2015 10:00 AM
CrazyAces wrote:
Chad, those students are so lucky to have you as a teacher.
My only guitar "teacher" was a piano guy who tried not to fall asleep while I labored (in a very bored manner myself) through 4 of the Mel Bay books.
With your talent, guidance and passion they will flourish.
Cheers,
Jeff
I think it's high time I really move down here!
— This is Noel. Reverb's at maximum an' I'm givin' 'er all she's got.
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josheboy
Joined: Mar 13, 2009
Posts: 2367
Twin Cities, MN
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Posted on Feb 27 2015 10:02 AM
When I was getting lessons a year or so ago, I sorta did the opposite.
Knowing my playing/listening preference, my guitar teacher actually learned some surf tunes so he could teach them to me. He also did a solo guitar arrangement for Miserlou that sounds amazing on classical guitar! Not long later, he started asking me for mix CDs of surf because he liked it
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Badger
Joined: Nov 16, 2013
Posts: 4537
Wisconsin
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Posted on Feb 27 2015 10:12 AM
CrazyAces wrote:
My only guitar "teacher" was a piano guy who tried not to fall asleep while I labored (in a very bored manner myself) through 4 of the Mel Bay books.
Mine was a piano teacher/neighbor lady; I served 4 yrs of that sentence, and mucho John Thompson books but managed to learn something all the way up to some Peer Gynt Suite. I still wonder if Hall of the Mountain King would surf....?
Audentes Fortuna Juvat! Go Chad!
— Wes
SoCal ex-pat with a snow shovel
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Noel
Joined: Mar 15, 2011
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Back in Piitsburgh, Pennsylvania, where I grew up.
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Posted on Feb 27 2015 10:32 AM
Badger wrote:
... I still wonder if Hall of the Mountain King would surf....?
Will The Coffin Daggers do?
— This is Noel. Reverb's at maximum an' I'm givin' 'er all she's got.
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Syndicateofsurf
Joined: Oct 08, 2014
Posts: 1073
Northern Ohio
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Posted on Feb 27 2015 10:40 AM
Uh... Pollo Del Mar... Golden State? Or is that a different Hall of the Mountain King?
— Da Vinci Flinglestein,
The quest for the Tone, the tone of the Quest
The Syndicate of Surf on YouTube
http://www.syndicateofsurf.com/
http://sharawaji.com/
http://surfrockradio.com/
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Badger
Joined: Nov 16, 2013
Posts: 4537
Wisconsin
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Posted on Feb 27 2015 10:41 AM
Noel wrote:
Badger wrote:
... I still wonder if Hall of the Mountain King would surf....?
Will The Coffin Daggers do?
Thanks Noel, but that doesn't do it for me (and they missed a whole opportunity at a dramatically classical finish). But it was interesting to see how many bands have attempted to cover that. I have something a little more drippy/less square-wave in mind.
I like the idea that kids are learning "whole tunes" rather than just the latest critical lick.
— Wes
SoCal ex-pat with a snow shovel
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Noel
Joined: Mar 15, 2011
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Back in Piitsburgh, Pennsylvania, where I grew up.
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Posted on Feb 27 2015 10:43 AM
Syndicateofsurf wrote:
Uh... Pollo Del Mar... Golden State? Or is that a different Hall of the Mountain King?
I'm only aware of In the Hall of the Mountain King by Edvard Grieg. Is there another?
(And I know we're off-topic now. Sorry!)
— This is Noel. Reverb's at maximum an' I'm givin' 'er all she's got.
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Badger
Joined: Nov 16, 2013
Posts: 4537
Wisconsin
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Posted on Feb 27 2015 10:44 AM
Syndicateofsurf wrote:
Uh... Pollo Del Mar... Golden State? Or is that a different Hall of the Mountain King?
Was talking about a classical piece by Grieg. (I love Golden State though.)
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— Wes
SoCal ex-pat with a snow shovel
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Syndicateofsurf
Joined: Oct 08, 2014
Posts: 1073
Northern Ohio
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Posted on Feb 27 2015 10:46 AM
Noel wrote:
Syndicateofsurf wrote:
Uh... Pollo Del Mar... Golden State? Or is that a different Hall of the Mountain King?
I'm only aware of In the Hall of the Mountain King by Edvard Grieg. Is there another?
(And I know we're off-topic now. Sorry!)
I know nothing of these long-haired type influences. I know Pollo Del Mar does a song called Hall of the Mountain King.
— Da Vinci Flinglestein,
The quest for the Tone, the tone of the Quest
The Syndicate of Surf on YouTube
http://www.syndicateofsurf.com/
http://sharawaji.com/
http://surfrockradio.com/
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Noel
Joined: Mar 15, 2011
Posts: 8528
Back in Piitsburgh, Pennsylvania, where I grew up.
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Posted on Feb 27 2015 10:50 AM
Syndicateofsurf wrote:
Noel wrote:
Syndicateofsurf wrote:
Uh... Pollo Del Mar... Golden State? Or is that a different Hall of the Mountain King?
I'm only aware of In the Hall of the Mountain King by Edvard Grieg. Is there another?
(And I know we're off-topic now. Sorry!)
I know nothing of these long-haired type influences. I know Pollo Del Mar does a song called Hall of the Mountain King.
This is it. Same song. Very different arrangement.
Here's the original.
— This is Noel. Reverb's at maximum an' I'm givin' 'er all she's got.
Last edited: Feb 27, 2015 10:53:39
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Syndicateofsurf
Joined: Oct 08, 2014
Posts: 1073
Northern Ohio
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Posted on Feb 27 2015 10:52 AM
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Syndicateofsurf
Joined: Oct 08, 2014
Posts: 1073
Northern Ohio
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Posted on Feb 27 2015 10:54 AM
Noel wrote:
Syndicateofsurf wrote:
Noel wrote:
Syndicateofsurf wrote:
Uh... Pollo Del Mar... Golden State? Or is that a different Hall of the Mountain King?
I'm only aware of In the Hall of the Mountain King by Edvard Grieg. Is there another?
(And I know we're off-topic now. Sorry!)
I know nothing of these long-haired type influences. I know Pollo Del Mar does a song called Hall of the Mountain King.
This is it. Same song. Very different arrangement.
That's it! Phheww! For a second I thought the alternate universe was having it's way with me!
— Da Vinci Flinglestein,
The quest for the Tone, the tone of the Quest
The Syndicate of Surf on YouTube
http://www.syndicateofsurf.com/
http://sharawaji.com/
http://surfrockradio.com/
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Noel
Joined: Mar 15, 2011
Posts: 8528
Back in Piitsburgh, Pennsylvania, where I grew up.
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Posted on Feb 27 2015 10:55 AM
We now return this thread to its original topic, which is how fantastic a guitar teacher Chad is.
— This is Noel. Reverb's at maximum an' I'm givin' 'er all she's got.
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