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I've got a line on a '61 Bandmaster I'm hoping to pick up late next month.

Shout out your records, cause I wanna hear these amps in action!

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I think The Volcanics last album features one.

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Lead guitar on the tracks "The Mercenary's Last Stand", "The Mercenary Rides Again", and the chorus to "Caveat Auditor". Those are the ones I remember for sure, I think the fuzz part of Lando is the bandmaster as is some of the lead work on We Must be Cautious.

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Lead on tracks 1,2,3 & 5
Rhythm on track 4

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That's what I use, it's on all my TomorrowMen recordings, including are upcoming album.

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I'm with Danny on that one.

All the lead guitar tracks on The Surge! recordings submitted to 101 Comps for 2011 through 2014 were recorded using one of my 62' Bandmasters. I did however use the single EV 15L open back kabinet which rolls off the thump on the bottom end a bit.

We are recording the new Surge! CD and I have tracked everything so far with this combination as well. I seldom use the stock cabinet. My home brewed cabs have more presence up close and I can hear them better on stage. I only have one 2-12 stock blonde cabinet and we let Bill use it for bass. It sounds pretty good with the two EV-12Ls. Weighs a ton though.

Snarf it dude. You'll love it too.

ed

Traditional........speak softly and play through a big blonde amp. Did I mention that I still like big blonde amps?

All the '63 recordings by the Atlantics from Australia used a brownface Bandmaster (with a 12" tone-ring cab) for lead guitar - so, the "Bombora" and "Now It's Stompin' Time" LPs, including the big hits Bombora and The Crusher.

I used mine on a couple of tracks on the Madeira's last album, "Tribal Fires", in particular on the track Giant as well as the solo and some subsequent parts on the album opener, Tribal Fury.

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They are such great amps. Not the loudest by any means, but they sure are smooth. Big and fat and round with lots of thunk.....yeah.

I think the '61 has a tube rectifier. Yum, more compression and sag than the ones I have with solid state rects. More urgent sounding.

Evan Foster and the Boss Martians played the Star Bar here in Atlanta some years back. He was playing a black Les Paul Custom out of a '61 with tube rect. It sounded awesome. That guy can play. They didn't whip out any surf that night but they were still smokin'

Like I said grab it........

ed

Traditional........speak softly and play through a big blonde amp. Did I mention that I still like big blonde amps?

I believe also that Eddie Bertrand played a brownface Bandmaster on the Belairs material, though I don't know if he played it on all their songs, or if he played it on Mr. Moto.

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Hey Ivan, I was always under the impression that Mr Moto was recorded using tweed amps. Seems like I saw a picture of the Belairs with tweed amps somewhere.

Oh, recent "birthday boy"........

Hey PJ! fill us in.

Best Reverbs, stay warm.

ed

Traditional........speak softly and play through a big blonde amp. Did I mention that I still like big blonde amps?

Thanks for all the suggestions, gents!
Also, Eddie, is that particular year tube rectified? I was under the impression that the 6G7-A circuit was solid state rectified.

Also anyone happen to know if Rich from The Astronauts was using a Showman or a Bandmaster?

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Dave,

I've been trying to get to the bottom of all these details but I seem to have some conflicting information. However, I do remember Evan telling me that his (piggyback) Bandmaster (with JBL's) had a tube rectifier. It could well have been the earlier brown 3-10 Bandmaster chassis in a piggyback head cab. Maybe he will spot this thread and chime in. Sprung and Teagle indicate that the 6G7A is the first piggyback Bandmaster and is credited to 1961. Probably the most significant difference between the 6G7 and the 6G7A electronically must have been the output transformer. I didn't locate a G67 schematic in my goodies or on the amp schematic site.

But buy with confidence my good man. You can't go wrong with a "blonde."

Right, Rich?

bad boy, ed............

ed

Traditional........speak softly and play through a big blonde amp. Did I mention that I still like big blonde amps?

eddiekatcher wrote:

I didn't locate a G67 schematic in my goodies or on the amp schematic site.

But buy with confidence my good man. You can't go wrong with a "blonde."

ed

The 6G7 schematic & layout (I have both) don't show it as tube rectified. If you're interested in having such little details, PM me your email address & I'll fire 'em off to you.

But I'm with Ed... get it! Cool

CORRECTED to add: I actually have both circuits, 6G7 with 6L6's and the -A with 5881's. Neither is tube rectified.

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I'm also full on with Eddie. If it's within the realm of reason, buy this amp. I have a 6G9-B Tremolux, a 6G6-B Gomez, and a '62 Blonde Showman. I own no other amps anymore because I don't want to. If I can ever swing a blonde Bandmaster, I'll probably do it just because.

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That, Sir Richard because is valid, it is my reasoning, my story, and I too, am sticking with them.

Lucky enough to have a pair of those amazing works of Fender art, I.

Like it sez about big blonde amps........

ed Cheers

Traditional........speak softly and play through a big blonde amp. Did I mention that I still like big blonde amps?

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That's what I use, it's on all my TomorrowMen recordings, including are upcoming album.

What I really meant to say is that this is all you need to know. ^

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Listening to The Ghastly Ones' All Plastic Assembly Kit, I think Garret was using a Bandmaster on that record, or possibly a Showman.

But I'm digging all y'all's tunes, it's helping to keep me motivated during all this OT to save up the extra scratch!

Also, will the thumbscrew holes on my BF Bandmaster cab line up with the clipboard on the Blonde head?

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eddiekatcher wrote:

Hey Ivan, I was always under the impression that Mr Moto was recorded using tweed amps.

Cant say for certain ... but I bought this Showman from Eddie back in about 64-65. We used it as our PA system

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Hey Badge,

Is that the primary difference, just the tubes or did they swap out the volume pots from 500K to 1 Meg and possibly fiddle with the tone stack cap values as well?

On some of the amps the coupling cap values were tweaked between letter changes.

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Traditional........speak softly and play through a big blonde amp. Did I mention that I still like big blonde amps?

eddiekatcher wrote:

Hey Badge,

Is that the primary difference, just the tubes or did they swap out the volume pots from 500K to 1 Meg and possibly fiddle with the tone stack cap values as well?

Bunch of little things especially in the tone stack, but which all presumably "add up." Among the more prominent:
Vol pot went to 1M
Resistor tied off the bass pot went from 10K to 6.8K
'-A' put back in a cap (.02) tied to the bass pot & the usual 100K resistor
Treble pot went to a 350K with a tap at 70K off that.

Just the obvious stuff I can see but these things effect the tone curve.
Here's a screen shot of the Normal channel comparison, '-A' is on the right:

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Edit: I should run this into the little tone-stack calculator just to see what the curves look like... I'm guessing the -A comes off more balanced & musical, closer to a traditional "Fender-sounding" tone stack. But who knows Leo's tinkering besides Leo? Be great sometime to be able to point to a schematic & ask, "Sir, what led you to do this?" Smile I'll try to live right so I can ask him someday.

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